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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:57 PM
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Reminder: Jon Stewart on Crossfire today. NOW! n/t
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 03:30 PM by TrustingDog
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:58 PM
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1. Thanks I would have missed it
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:03 PM
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4. I wonder if he'll have anything to say about why
his show didn't cover the last two presidential debates. I thought that was odd, missing out on such great opportunities. But then, I've also thought it was odd (and probably do to corporate pressure) that he's had so many GOP guests this year...
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:36 PM
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8. Show always has long hiatuses (sp)
And Jon has had a good balance of Republicans and Democrats, and quite honestly, I like it when he has pukes on because he does a great job in showing how totally inept they are.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:56 PM
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29. JON STEWART JUST CALLED TUCKER A DICK!!!!!!!
OMFG
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:58 PM
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35. not exactly....he said:
''You;re as big a DICK on your show as....''not sure....I think he said, 'as on any other show'

he was REALLY pissed, and passionate about the disservice shows like Crossfire do to the political dialogue

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:59 PM
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2. Thank you!!! I had no idea. (nt)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:01 PM
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3. Whoa, hadn't heard that; thanks...!!
I pray that he won't allow this "Mary" nonsense to go beyond the first introductory statement. I regret that 'The Daily Show' isn't on this week; they would have snuffed it quickly... and nudged the media back to the real issues.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:31 PM
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5. kick
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:32 PM
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6. Post some play-by-play!
Please?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:33 PM
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7. i'm working too...I gotta know.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:53 PM
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26. Stewart said that Crossfire was excruciating
That it pretended to be debate when it was really theater. And that's bad because we need debate right now.

Tucker kept trying to say that Stewart didn't ask Kerry tough questions when he was on, so who is Jon to criticize.

Jon's general argument: You guys are on CNN. Our lead-in shows is puppets making crank calls. And if your big argument in response to me is that you're at least better than a fake news show on a comedy network, then this country is in a lot of trouble. And if you're going to compare yourself to a comedy show, you really ought to shoot for Seinfeld, because they're funny. That's a good show. Ours isn't.

Tucker complained about Jon lecturing him, and at one point whined "I thought you were gonna be funny." Thing is, the crowd seemed to think what Jon was saying was pretty funny.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:11 PM
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44. see GD, there's another thread there. link here...
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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:43 PM
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9. he just called them partisan hacks n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:46 PM
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11. Called *who* partisan hacks??
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:51 PM
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19. Carlson and Begala.
I think he also means Carville and Novak. All the Crossfire hosts. They are letting the public down by kissing up to the politicians and being part of their strategies. They are theatre, not news. They are refusing to do their real jobs and ignoring their responsibilities. They are missing the great opportunity to help the public. We need them and they're not doing their jobs.

Paraphrased, but that's what Stewart had to say. Total smackdown.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:53 PM
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24. heh heh
Equal Opportunity Offender! :)
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Kal Belgarion Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:45 PM
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10. They made a mistake putting Stewart on :-) (nt)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:46 PM
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12. "and you wear a bowtie"
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:47 PM
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13. OH. MY. GOD. I CANT BELIEVE THIS!!!
Jon Stewart is kicking fucking ass.

Carlson is absolutely disgusting, insulting Stewart.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:50 PM
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16. In-fucking-credible!!!
Jon visibly troubled by the lack of REAL debate on Crossfire!!!

He truly ROCKS!!!!! (uppercase ROCKS!!!!!)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:48 PM
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14. Jon: "no, I'm not going to be your monkey"
Tucker is such an ass
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:49 PM
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15. Jon Stewart is just destroying Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala
as Crossfire hosts. Says they are abdicating their responsibilities as journalists by being "political hacks." Damn!!!!!! And Stewart is deadly serious about it, too!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:50 PM
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17. He TOTALLY ambushed this show!
Way to go Jon. Destroyed their rhythm. Carlson was dumbfounded.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:51 PM
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20. that was BEAUTIFUL!!!!
totally blind-sided BOTH of them by taking their show more seriously than THEY do...

will he still be there after the commercials???

best. crossfire. EVER. JON put THEM in the Crossfire!!!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:54 PM
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27. Carlson was totally snowed
He still seems to have no clue how to handle Jon.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:52 PM
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22. So far ...
At least Begala has let Jon have his say. Tucker would not freakin' SHUT UP. "Be funny! You must suck at dinner parties, Jon." What a pathetic freak, and he just totally demonstrated Jon's point for him.
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treading_water Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:51 PM
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18. JON STEWART IS A GOD
I'll type quick while it's on commercial. Who wants to make bets he won't be back after the break?

He said:

Compared crossfire and debate to pro-wrestling and an athletic contest. "It's theatre"

How old are you?
35
And you wear a bow tie

What you do is not honest. It's partisan hackery.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:52 PM
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21. The bow tie bit was funny!
"I know you're smart. It's hard to tie those."
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treading_water Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:52 PM
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23. MOre
You're on CNN. YOu have a responsibility to the public discourse.

The show that on before is ... something about puppets.

Tucker accusses Jon of being Kerry's "butt boy"
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:59 PM
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37. Butt boy???
Stewart should point out that homophobes are more likely to be aroused by homosexual behavior than non-homophobes. Study after stydy has shown that. We all know that Tucker is a homophobe.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:53 PM
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25. My take is...
Jon is trying to make the point that the questions they ask are part of the problem b/c it's just a platform for there spin.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:56 PM
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28. JON STEWART CALLS TUCKER CARLSON A "DICK"!
:wow:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:56 PM
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30. Jon called Tucker a DICK!!!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 03:57 PM by alg0912
Bewahahahahahaha!:thumbsup:

Tucker: You're much funnier on your show...

Jon: You're much more of a DICK than on your show!!!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:56 PM
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31. You're as big a dick on your show
Tucker: I think you're funnier on your show

Jon: You're as big a dick on your show

That might be the best moment of television I have ever seen. :D
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:57 PM
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34. Wow...I hope that make the headlines! Did Tucker cry? LOL
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:59 PM
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36. His look was
a mixture of disbelief and trying not to laugh (because he knew he'd just been blindsided and destroyed). Then they cut to commercial.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:00 PM
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39. Jon's never heard of the hump on *'s back?
An audience member just asked him what he thought it was, and he didn't seem to have any idea of the issue.

He needs to read DU more often. :D
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:11 PM
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43. Re: hump -- I got the impression that at first he didn't hear the question
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 04:14 PM by Gloria
then, perhaps feigned not knowing because he wanted to hear something from the host. Begala jumped in and passed off as a "rumple"...Stewart looked like he wasn't buying it all...You could see his eyes were narrowed and he was holding back...He said, "I see." Begala explaining it as a "rumple" is probably the least believable explanation!

I can't believe Stewart didn't know about all the controversy since it made the NYTimes and WaPo as well as Salon. I'm sure he reads the big papers and we know he's got CNN, etc. on all the time and Zahn, for example, on CNN covered it.

I frankly think he had already written off both Carlson and Begala and just wanted to see how they would answer. I got the feeling he's cynical enough to want to watch the spin and SMART enough to not give away his hand if there's a chance the TDS may pick this up in a show when they are back to new episodes...
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:21 PM
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46. You're probably right
that explanation makes sense. I'm sure he's heard the story.

And Begala's explanation was beyond lame.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:14 PM
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45. Carlson said, "Okay, now that's funny! Finally you're being funny!"
At his expense, but he got what he wanted, it would seem. :shrug:
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PerfectSage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:57 PM
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32. JS & TUCKER
Jon just told Tucker: "Your as big a dick on this show as you are on any show"
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:57 PM
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33. OMG!! OMG!! OMG!!!
hahahahahahahaha

He really said it! He called Tucker a dick!! Hahahahahahahaha
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treading_water Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 03:59 PM
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38. Spin Alley = Deception Lane
Where do you go after the debates?

Tucker: "to the men's room"

No, after that.

Begala: "Home."

No, you go to Spin Alley. Don't you think that is kind of a drag for people at home? For you to go to Deception Lane?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:02 PM
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40. He is an amazingly smart and courageous guy. Thanks for
the play by play.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:03 PM
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41. I have a very strong feeling that Jon Stewart is trying very hard to
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 04:03 PM by txindy
not hit them on this show! He is being very, very serious and obviously believes the things he is telling them about their show. They do not take him seriously, Carlson, in particular. Tells Jon to "Come on, be funny!" That earned him the response, "No, I will not be your monkey."

Jon isn't here for giggles. He means business and they're not listening. Not even when they're quiet.

Jeez, does Paul Begala really believe his friends who work for Junior truly believe what they say about that admin.? He says they do. Example: After the first debate and they tried to spin it *'s way, they truly believed he won. What the...? NOBODY is THAT stupid! That claim did earn him the Jon Stewart Look of Derision, though. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:10 PM
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42. another thread in GD here...
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