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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:39 PM
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here goes al franken on wolf: trying to call out the media
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 04:40 PM by SangamonTaylor
saying that wolf's job is to call out bush and his distortion of kerry's statements by the bush campaign.

Of course, wolf is cutting him off.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:42 PM
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1. lol.... CNN can't handle the truth.... they like to keep people "stupid"
to the ways of shrub and corporations.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:42 PM
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2. There's something happening here..
What it is.. IS exactly clear.

The media's whoreishness is being exposed for all to see today.

First Terry Mac, then Jon Stewart and now Al Franken. All on CNN.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:43 PM
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3. what did macauliffe say?
and WHY Hasn't he been saying it for at least the last SIX MONTHS?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:46 PM
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5. WHen asked about Mary Cheney
McAuliffe responded by saying something like "But first we should discuss the breaking news that Karl Rove has just testified in the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame"

McAuliffe knows how to turn a defense into an offense. Many could learn from him if they stopped thinking they knew so much more than he did.

WHY Hasn't he been saying it for at least the last SIX MONTHS?

Ummm, the outing thing only began Wed night. It would have looked silly for him to be talking about it 6 months ago.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:49 PM
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7. but the plame outing happened about 15 months ago n/t
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:51 PM
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10. Yes....and??
.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:03 PM
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14. But Rove wasn't TESTIFYING 15 months ago--CNN should be covering
this.

That's precisely Franken's point.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:15 PM
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20. I understand that
my post had nothing to do with what Al said I was referring to what someone said about McAuliffe in post number 5.

I absolutely agree that Rove testifying should be at the top of the news. My point is that this should have been at the top of the news 15 months ago and the top of the news every month since. Also Karen Kwiatowski and Sibel Edmonds! They should also be.

My point (that I didn't really make very well at all) is that McAuliffe and the people on our side don't insist that the television media cover the things that are important to the country. The GOP owns these bastards and the Mary Cheney thing is exhibit number 1.

I am absolutely thrilled beyond description with Jon Stewart's performance on Crossfire today. And it sounds like Al is doing his part too. The leaders of the Democratic party need to take a lesson from these guys. Props to Terry McAuliffe for doing the right thing today. We need tons more.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 09:02 PM
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24. You have an odd sense of who controls the media
My point (that I didn't really make very well at all) is that McAuliffe and the people on our side don't insist that the television media cover the things that are important to the country. The GOP owns these bastards and the Mary Cheney thing is exhibit number 1.

Can you please explain how Terry and the Dems are suppose to force the media to do something when the media is "owned" (your word) by the GOP?

I am absolutely thrilled beyond description with Jon Stewart's performance on Crossfire today.

Why? They achieved nothing. Everyone who watches CNN, and there are very few who do, already know about the news and have an opinion. They either knew the media are propogandists and agreed with Jon, or they're repukes, and they think Jon's a librul liar.

No one learned anything new and no one's mind was changed on anything. It was entertainment.

The other night, Kerry not only repeated bush*'s statement that he didn't care where OBL was, he got bush* to LIE about it in front of TENS OF MILLIONS of people, and you think Kerry needs lessons from Jon Stewart?

Meanwhile, bush* made a comment about believing the media ("Oh, never mind!") that was embarrassing. Do you think it would be a good idea for John Kerry to do something similar?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:45 PM
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4. Down Goes Blitzer...Down Goes Blitzer
The gloves are off, we're not gonna take it anymore.

Folks, we're on the offensive and not gonna let up. We're taking this country back!!!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:48 PM
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6. OH my my Oh HELL YES
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:05 PM
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15. Oh, yes--I'M TAKING MY COUNTRY BACK!
Real leadership in the White House, then the end of the whore media.

The dawn is breaking, Americans.

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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:50 PM
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8. did anybody hear what al said?
would anybody be willing to share?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:50 PM
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9. OMG, revenge of the funny men
Is this a coordinated attack? First Stewart of Crossfire. Now Al on Wolfie's show. Putting these airheads in their place. This is awesome.


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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 07:07 PM
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23. That is the $1,000,000 question
Is this a coordinated attack?

I hope so - so damn much. Whoever planned this, if it IS planned,...is...ahhh...hell, Im speechless, I can't think of a superlative that expresses the degree to which this rocks.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:51 PM
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11. It's a pathetic state of affairs...
When we have to rely on the humorists to get the truth out about these people..
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:07 PM
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16. Not to put too fine a pont on it, but political humor has always been
about the hard truths just below the surface of the lies and spin.

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:09 PM
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17. it has, but the state of journalism has declined precipitously
What has changed is that comedians now must tell journalists to stop trying to be comedians and do their damn jobs of fact finding and truth telling.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:21 PM
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21. don't forget (over 100 years ago) who took down
one of the most powerful and corrupt "bosses"

A cartoonist! Thomas Nast.

and his cartoons are very relivant today!
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:51 PM
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12. Call em out guys! Getting my email ready and ready to send off
a few.
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 04:53 PM
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13. This is what I love about liberals
We send our fucking COMEDIANS out to take on "serious" journalists -- and we fucking clean their goddamned clocks! WE RULE!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:11 PM
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18. kathy griffin got the ball rolling debate night on msnbc
she didnt miss around. immediately called them on all the repugs on show and not dems,..........adn the the lesbian thing, crap on you all maybe mama isnt a good mama is she is ashamed on daughter. and then calling out scarsborough, and not letting up a second. then going after fineman when he tried to hus her and wagged his finger at her
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 05:15 PM
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19. I though Wolf was supressing a giant snarl
when Al pointed his finger at him and said that it was Wolf who should be reporting the truth. But Wolf broke to a commercial instead.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 07:04 PM
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22. Franken/Stewart in 2012!
:toast:
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