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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:07 AM
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Is anyone else bothered by the fact that Bush has double digit
leads in the red states and we have very narrow leads in many blue states? I know that this will tighten up, but this is nervewracking!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:10 AM
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1. They are only polls.
Don't worry about them.
They don't even poll enough people to get a good sample.
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benito Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:11 AM
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2. Don't you just love a good race?
I think Fox(and others) know that since the race is close, more people are watching their programs. Advertising dollars keep coming in....everyone is happy.

If it was leaning towards a blowout some people would actually go outside and play.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:11 AM
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3. Nope
A case could be made that the redder the red states are, the more legitimate Kerry's numbers are in the National polls. It might be a positive given the tightness of the National polls.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:15 AM
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4. We have huge leads in states in which intelligent people use cell phones
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 08:16 AM by Atman
Crankin'-the-box-on-the-farmhouse-wall states are Gallup territory. They can have the morans.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:28 AM
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5. Look at the states Bush is that far ahead in.
It is better than when the Dixiecrats took over. In mass they moved from the Dem party and never for got Johnson and the civil rights bill. Guess those people are just about all dead now.Things are on the move. Give it 20 years and the young people will change the whole face of this country. The WASP will be in the back ground where he should be and I am one and it does not bother me at all.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:31 AM
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6. Will Bush win the popular vote ?
Even with those "double-digit" leads, how many voters are there?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:35 AM
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7. look at the relative populations
many of the red states are sparsely populated so using percentages can be misleading. For example, Wyoming has approx 500,000 total residents, Assume 300,000 likely voters. Suppose the poll shows 170,000 Bush, 130,000 Kerry - a difference of 40,000 votes, That's 57% - 43% or 14% advantage. On the opposite end, consider California with over 30,000,000 total population, Suppose 18,000,000 likely voters. Suppose it shows 9,500,000 for Kerry and 8,500,000 for Bush. Although there is a one million vote difference, percentage-wise it is 53% - 47% or a 6% advantage for Kerry.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:43 AM
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8. The polls are scewed 8-15% toward Bush.
There's also a margin of error of 3-4%. So even under the worst scenario, Bush's poll numbers are inflated by at least 5%.

Those double-digit leads are a myth.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:58 AM
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9. I find it hard to believe
but I don't think the polls are all that reliable anyway. We'll see who has the double digit leads come Nov 2.
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