I'd get behind a Dem who wanted to allow warantless searches and seizures

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Bottom line, we're going to lose much more important rights than the right not to have our houses raided by police if Bush wins. I think it would be sad, and I know a lot of people who would be inconvenienced by unannounced raids.

However.

If we give up on that particular right, then the people afraid of terrorism wouldn't have that particular single-issue vote necessarily going toward Republicans. They'd lose time after time after time.

We have much more serious environmental issues out there to deal with. We're losing our forests. We've already lost clean air, clean water, public hunting and fishing areas, the right to abortions, actually the entire bill of rights, free elections...

We could lose our whole democracy if GWB gets to appoint a couple Supreme Court Justices.

We've most certainly lost freedom of speech and the right to assemble. We could easily blow the possiblity of a separation of church and state.

Besides if people don't have anything to hide, then why wouldn't they let the government search their houses?

This is quickly becoming 1984.

Give it up on the searches and seizures, and we're back in the catbird's seat.

[Francesca]

1. how many rights are you willing to give up???

[Francesca]

2. We just need a dem who can pretend to be a born again and

we would be all set........

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Sincerity is the most important thing there is in politics.

Once you learn to fake sincerity, you got it made.

[IdaBriggs]

4. I agree. We don't need no stinkin' "Bill of Rights!" nt

[acmavm]

5. You'd support warrantless search and seizure? Because you think

it would gain us something? Put us back in the 'catbird' seat?

<snip>
Besides if people don't have anything to hide, then why wouldn't they let the government search their houses?
<snip>

BECAUSE THE DAMN GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEARCH SQUAT UNLESS THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO INVADE YOUR PRIVACY. AND THE BASIC PREMISE IS NOT TO PRESUME GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

And where would it stop. One search, two searches, weekly searches?

People came to this country to get away tyranny and persecution. Let them seach and who determines what's to be considered evidence of wrongdoing? Want any part of your life kept private? How would that happen if the government was able to come in and search your home any time they wanted without notifying you before, during, or after?

Shit, I give up.

[Grillymom]

6. My experience is

if you give them enough chances they'll keep kicking in your door until they find something to hand you with or you give them something to make them stop. Either way, always remember the Nazi's didn't find Anne Frank, her neighbor's turned her in. If we give up here it's not to far to have each of us turn on one another-- then no one is safe, whether you have something to hide or not.

[beyurslf]

7. I am sensing a trend here...can we AT LEAST MOVE THESE OUT OF THIS FORUM!

[Moderator]

8. Locking.....

Please make your point in one thread.


Thank you.


DU Moderator