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Mon Jan-12-04 09:34 PM
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(This is mainly for the Dean supporters.)
They (the other side, the right wing, Rove & Co.) whatever you want to call them, they're trying to cause disunity in the Party right now. They want Gephardt to win Iowa so Dean won't have the momentum and bring with him the unity the Party will need to fight Bush. They know Gephardt more than likely can't win the nomination even if he DOES win Iowa. And they know Dean's lead will be lessened in NH by Clark if Gephardt pulls out an Iowa win. They know if anyone other than Dean (and to a lesser extent Kerry) wins, they will be able to CARPET BOMB them in spending before September. They're trying to make Dean slip up. They're baiting him (whether it's with plants in the crowds at his speeches, providing Sharpton with opposition research in the debates, or Drudge splashing a picture of Judith across his pathetic webpage.)
What does all of this spell? DISUNITY.
What does disunity spell? WEAKNESS.
What does weakness spell? Bush victory in 04.
Don't worry gang. This is Politics 101. (Granted, dirty politics, but that's the name of the game.) Dean's momentum ISN'T going away, they're just trying to make you think it is.
Don't get yourself dizzy in all this spin the media (and others) are throwing your way.
F-O-C-U-S.
Victory is near.
Rest assured.
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:35 PM
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1. Your Bradley picture is awesome |
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:36 PM
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2. Your reply is so mature. |
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:39 PM
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Certain posters are a distraction, using high school like tactics, their threat is non existant. Focus on the bigger picture. Certain posters most likely will go back into obscurity once the Doctor is nominated.
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:52 PM
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5. This is absolutely true |
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Dean's support is rock solid. We will NOT lose. The polls don't show all the new voters in Dean's camp. They are numerous and they are active. They will be at the polls in record numbers. Victory will be ours!
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:23 PM
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13. They'll go back to the forum from where they came ! -eom- |
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:25 PM
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14. And thank GOD for that! |
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:40 AM
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25. we can only hope. n/t |
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Mon Jan-12-04 09:38 PM
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3. You're nine months late. Tom DeLay said last March they'd use Dean |
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Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 09:42 PM by blm
to divide the party and that they'd promote him however they could to bring down the other candidates.
They recognized a loose cannon that would inflict wounds on the whole party.
From The Hill last March:
MARCH 19, 2003
DeLay’s ploy: Building up Dean to aid GOP By Jonathan E. Kaplan
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) is drawing as much attention as possible to former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean in the hope that this will compel other Democratic presidential candidates to go out on a limb and match his anti-war rhetoric.
Delay’s tactic, a well-placed source told The Hill, is a version of the axiom: “My enemy’s enemy is my friend.” <<<<<<
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:05 PM
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6. Well it sure is working.... Honestly - ya ever think that DEAN is the |
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problem instead of the other 8 candidates?
The other candidates seem to get along pretty well. So do the supporters of all of the other candidates.
When I used to do counseling I'd always get these people who'd come in and complain about how EVERYBODY else was picking on them or was bad.
My standard answer: "How is it that 90% of the people in this world are wrong and you are right? Instead of complaining about how everybody else in the world is wrong... Have you ever thought that maybe the problem is you?"
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:09 PM
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Guess who Gore's president is. :evilgrin:
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:27 AM
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22. Except objectively, everybody is picking on Dean. |
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Kerry got it when he was the front runner.
And Dean's getting it far, far worse now. And second place isn't even close.
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:17 PM
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10. tom delay is an idiot isn't he? |
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I don't let him frame the debate for me.
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:19 PM
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12. Ah, but didn't you know? |
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:27 PM
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15. Dean ~ Ton DeLay's choice for the Democratic party |
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:06 AM
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21. and we are using Tom Delay as a source of credible info? |
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:06 PM
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Having never been involved to this extent before, I guess I don't have a thick enough skin. It's good to be reminded to keep things in perspective.
Oh, and LOVE your sig line:-)
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:13 PM
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BTW I love your sig line! I agree this disunity we are experiencing is their plan.
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:18 PM
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Focus on the task at hand, screw the rest for now.
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:37 PM
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16. I'm keeping myself focused and that's to get Dean in the White House |
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Mon Jan-12-04 10:44 PM
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17. I was going to respect your "mainly Dean supporters" wish until |
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You slammed Kerry.
Look, Dean chose to bring the IWR to the front burner and began the path to disunity. He did it in such a way (Misleading: They voted for war, they supported the war) so as to gain himself support and tear down the others. The only thing that mattered to him was that he rose in the polls.
Dean set the tone and cannot blame anyone else. If he kept the focus on the one true person responsible for our invasion of Iraq and he didn't make the misleading statements, we might be looking at a different race.
The media needed to build an ati-war candidate, Dean volunteered, which is fine. Where he went wrong is to misrepresent the position of fellow Democrats. He got his front-runner status and now has to live with what has happened because there's nothing the media loves more than tearing down someone they've built up.
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Tue Jan-13-04 01:20 AM
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18. Nice, sophisticted version of the Kerry camp spin |
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"I wasn't really for the war. My position was just like Dean's -- all the way up until I voted for the war, that is."
There was no misrepresentation by Dean of those who voted FOR an illegal, immoral, unjustified and unjustifiable war -- not to mention an illegal and immoral doctrine of pre-emption (or preventive war, for those who are concerned with the semantics).
The media needed to build an ati-war candidate, Dean volunteered, which is fine.
That's patently ridiculous. Care to TRY to support that with some documentation? Dean took that position at a time when the polls were showing something over 70% of the population, bumfuzzled by the Bush administration and Fox and the rest of the lazy and complicit media, going after the bastids who hit the WTC. But those Washington Democrats who had presidential aspirations were smarter than that.
And now Kerrry, as always, wants to have it both ways. ANd blame Dean for his problems ("He's the one who made me look bad because I voted for the war.")
It doesn't seem to be selling all that well. Wonder why? Maybe because Lincoln was right about not being able to fool all the people all the time?
Eloriel
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Tue Jan-13-04 05:51 AM
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Kerry is glad we liberated the Iraqi people. His official stance this week is preventive war is good. No need to spin for him anymore.
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:31 AM
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23. Does anybody have a score card? (nt) |
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:00 AM
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20. Where did he slam Kerry? |
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Tue Jan-13-04 06:39 AM
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24. multi-tasking, it does a party good! |
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Edited on Tue Jan-13-04 06:39 AM by JNelson6563
This week I am speaking on behalf of Dean at a neighboring dounty Dem event, I have a Dem E-board meeting here in my county where I will report on Membership and various other items I am working on (party fundraisers etc.). Later this month I will be working hard on our local party's winter fundraiser and a week after that I am hosting a fundraiser for Sen. Stabenow.
Stuff for Dean, stuff for the party. I don't see why everyone can't do both. Working for your Dem candidate and working with your Dem party should come naturally.
Let's all get to work and tell the GOP to go screw themselves.
Julie
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