''The fuel was contaminated for the helicopters,'' - killing our troops.

[Mortos]

Some in the platoon had told relatives they refused to deliver tainted helicopter fuel in poorly maintained vehicles by traveling a dangerous supply route without an armed escort.

Harold Casey said his grandson, Justin Rogers, 22, called him Saturday to tell him that he and other soldiers were put under armed guard after refusing to deliver the supplies.

''The fuel was contaminated for the helicopters,'' Casey said his grandson told him. ''It would have caused them to crash. ... They saved lives.''

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/290/nation/Military_probing_whether_unit_:.shtml

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) Two Army helicopters crashed late Saturday in Baghdad, killing two American soldiers and wounding two others, the U.S. command said.

The Army helicopters went down about 8:30 p.m. in southwestern Baghdad, the 1st Cavalry Division said. The division said the cause of the crashes had not been determined.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/290/world/Army_helicopters_crash_in_Bagh:.shtml

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Anyone see a fucking link between these two stories?

A group of 17 soldiers refuses to deliver tainted fuel because they believe it is unsafe to use in helicopters and a 3 days later, two helicopters crash for unknown reasons.

This administration is killing our troops and arresting the ones who refuse to be accessories to their compatriots murders.

Someone in the media needs to link these two stories and start investigating.

[NMDemDist2]

1. holy chit!!! n/t

[jn2375]

2. We need to start asking if these crashes where the result of

contaminated fuel. How many other helicopters also crashed because of it.

[Eye and Monkey]

6. "the investigation findings are inconclusive"

Don't blame me, it's what the my crystal ball says re: the "investigation".

Meanwhile, my Magic Eight Ball gave me a doubtful look when I mentioned the possibility of an investigation. My Magic Eight Ball is a notable cynic.

The tea leaves in the bottom of my cup read "Are you kidding or what?"

[Carla in Ca]

15. Sorry, I really don't know

how does fuel get contaminated?

[Neecy]

20. well...

From what I remember reading the original story last week, the fuel was contaminated by water. They'd already tried to deliver it once, and it was refused due to the contamination - and then they were ordered to deliver the same fuel elsewhere.

[Carla in Ca]

22. OK, thanks for that.

n/t

[havocmom]

Great catch, Mortos.

Once again, it will have to be us that pesters 'someone in media' to start investigating. Get those emails cranking again, DUers!

This is good stuff for LTTE to get people thinking also.

[LiberalAndProud]

26. bump to Sunday

[aquart]

3. Army did say they got other troops to complete the mission.

The new guys maybe weren't told the fuel was tainted?

[Bozita]

4. Great work, Mortos

Thanks.

[proud patriot]

5. Lord Have Mercy

:cry: :grr: :cry:

[Mortos]

7. Warning: Bad Language Ahead

I am so sick of this fucking administration fucking our troops while they smugly accuse anyone against their bullshit of being unpatriotic. I want to see some of these motherfuckers in prison. These lying cocksuckers are destroying the military I once served proudly in. I still have friends serving and they are being totally screwed by these dirty cowardly chickenhawk pieces of shit.

My brother in law is a helicopter pilot in the navy and if he dies because some asshole not only allows, but demands that contaminated fuel be delivered after he has been warned that it will make them crash, I will feel the need for some serious retribution.

Fuck I am pissed.

[Maat]

8. Hang in there, Mortos!

I will be praying (honest, non-fundie affirmative meditative prayer) for your brother-in-law's safety. And I will e-mail anyone you guys recommend about this problem.

[Erika]

11. www.iraqicasualties.org shows not only...

the deaths but the horror stories of our kids serving Bushco.

[Spike from MN]

13. I get an error when trying that site

Are you sure that's the right URL?

[Hello_Kitty]

14. No shit, so am I

You know, it's bad enough they are fighting in this bullshit trumped up war. But when we're the RICHEST FUCKING COUNTRY IN THE FUCKING WORLD, there is no excuse for sending our troops out there without the proper training and equipment. No excuse. Period.

[jn2375]

9. This needs to be sent out to the press to start asking questions

[Lefta Dissenter]

10. kicking

you have said everything I can think of to say... but we absolutely must make sure this gets out.

I'm starting by writing to Russ Feingold, and also to an old Clark friend who is an advisor to Russ on veterans issues (it's not so much a veterans issue, but he'll know who I should contact).

This is simply obscene. and we'll probably never know the truth.

[Scoopie]

12. Done

This is sickening.

[Wind Dancer]

16. This is frightening!

I am going to send to SFTT, maybe Hackworth could investigate it.

There are no words, we live in a country with no media, none. I am just sick!

:cry:

[Carla in Ca]

19. Hackworth-good idea.

KICK!

[blondeatlast]

17. Dear God; and I do sincerely beseech Him.

This is inexcusable.

Nominated for the homepage, and on it's way to my e-mail list.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

18. This report has it as a collision of two copters...

http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=30907

[Bozita]

21. That's an AFP story -- good credibility

far better than the US press

[Contrary1]

23. But who gives them their info? n/t

[Bozita]

24. IIRC, AFP is the world's first wire service

They have their own reporting staff.

[dansolo]

25. Could the collision have been caused by tainted fuel?

If the helecopters were flying in close formation, and one of them lost control, that could have caused them to collide.