Lynn Cheney calls Kerry "pig."

[A-Schwarzenegger]

Another DUer (kskiska) just posted this story but I humbly thought it needed another thread with the current title.

Hopefully there is some enterprising reporter reading
here who will use the same headline in a story. This is outrageous,
as is the fact that nobody raised hell about it, especially
after the Mary episode.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story/0,14259,1329373,00.html

The hall was dark and so was Lynn Cheney's mood. The wife of America's Vice President pulled no punches in saying exactly what she thought of John Kerry.

There was a saying in her home state of Wyoming for people like Kerry, she told a crowd of Republicans in Pennsylvania who had just watched the third presidential debate in a dimly lit hotel ballroom. 'When you keep trying to make something look good and it is not so good, you call it putting lipstick on a pig,' she snarled to the crowd's raucous laughter.

Calling Kerry 'a pig' was extraordinary language, even by the standards of an American election campaign that has plumbed new depths of bitterness and divisiveness. No one in the hall batted an eyelid. And no Democrats complained.

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[Lex]

1. They feel they are losing, and things are getting ugly.

Their true colors are going to be showing over the next 16 days.

[onehandle]

9. Yep. nt

[XanaDUer]

92. Like the cornered wild animals they are.

So we had better be vigilant.

[Name removed]

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[miss_kitty]

11. I don't think that word

is strong enough :evilgrin:

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

3. Lynn Cheney knows all about pigs

She married one

[barb162]

84. she married one and is one, oink, oink

[freetobegay]

4. Who better to know a pig than a sow.

[noahmijo]

5. And you're a phony bitch lemme tell ya why you phony wench

Because Alan Keyes once said about your daughter something of the effect that she is indulgent due to her sexual perference and viciously attacked her.

You said nothing.

When Republicans like Falwell say that people like your daughter are responsible for 9-11 you say nothing.

John Kerry tastefully used your daughter's sexual preference in a respectful manner and you go off in a mock rage.

You're as phony as your husband bitch. Get over it.

PS Are you gonna write anymore sleazy novels soon that involve hot lesbian sex?

[dansolo]

53. Keyes called Mary Cheney a "selfish hedonist"

Why hasn't any reporter asked the Cheney's why they didn't have as mush outrage against Keyes, whose comments were far more offensive.

[DemBones DemBones]

58. Amen! Tell it like it is!

:thumbsup:

[AP]

6. (desperation)

The polls must not look good.

[Kurt Remarque]

7. she resembles a small dog

[blueblitzkrieg]

8. What a nasty, hateful bitch.

Dick's evil must have worn off on her. John Kerry is 10 X the person her or her husband could ever be. Oink oink, Lynne, you're the pig.

[miss_kitty]

10. I am sure she is very familiar with the application of lipstick on a pig

in more ways than one...

[DBoon]

19. Only when she looks in a mirror!

eom

[miss_kitty]

36. oh, there are other ways to get

lipstick on a pig

:evilgrin:

[NightOwwl]

43. Damn you mlle_chatte

I'm going to have terrible nightmares tonight. :silly:

[DemBones DemBones]

59. I had to kiss a pig once! I "won" the Have-A-Teacher-Kiss-A-Pig

contest and had to commit osculation upon a young porcine male. He was scrubbed clean, diapered, and had a ribbon around his neck, and I'm sure kissing him was much nicer than kissing Darth Cheney.

:kick:

(Poor thing was scared to death due to all the yelling of the students. I hated that much more than kissing him.)

[LiberteToujours]

12. What a phony

This staged "outrage" over Kerry mentioning Mary being a lesbian is the truly outrageous thing. As a gay man, I do not consider being mentioned as a gay person to be derogatory if it is not spoken in that manner. If my parents ever said they were outraged that someone had spoken about me being gay I would be FURIOUS with them! It would show that they were ashamed of me. Of course, feeling insulted by Republicans is nothing new, but this disgusting attempt by them to try to pretend they're on the gays' side of this issue feels like nothing short of extortion. Lynne is the pig here, and so is Mary for being a horrible example to gay people everywhere.

[Cha]

15. Welcome to DU,

LiberteToujours! :toast:

[DemBones DemBones]

60. Bienvenue, LiberteToujours!

Bienvenue a DU! :hi:

[LiberteToujours]

72. Merci :-)

[hatrack]

13. Did you forget the Xanax, Lynn?

Or was the problem something deeper-seated, such as a gangrened soul?

[Cha]

14. This is the part that bothered me..

"And no Democrats complained"..I don't know what Dems they're talkin' about?

Of course, cheney's witch would say that about Kerry..

I am not surprised..just look at her.

[pacalo]

47. That bothers me, too, but for a different reason...

When Teresa Kerry told an obnoxious reporter (who had a history of defaming her & her family) to "shove off", all hell in the media broke loose!

Let's see how they handle "Ma Barker" Cheney's more offensive term -- not for a lowly reporter, mind you, but for John Kerry.

Just don't hold your breath.

[jn2375]

16. Teresa, this is your opening, you should go public with this outrage

turn the tables on them!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

22. My first reaction is Yes!

My second is that Edwards should do it.
Oh, to be a campaign bigwig for one minute.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

17. Calling her names & all is fine

but how could this not be protested by Dem leaders
& picked up by the devouring mass media? Even if
she argues oh it's only a saying, it's pure media dynamite
and will have the bastards backpedaling for days to explain
what she was doing calling the Dem Pres candidate
a PIG. She would never apologize and it would have
legs, four of them as a matter of fact. Am I wrong?
How do we get this wider play?

[tblue37]

48. Well, but she didn't tell him to

"Shove it," so it must be all right.

[DBoon]

18. Not Kosher!

eom

[necso]

20. Hilarious.

"Pig" as in "male chauvinist pig".

Har de har.

The role reversal nears its apogee (or epigee if you like).

Who's falling for this stuff? -- I mean, the neo-cons playing PC games -- this goes way beyond inversion (the neo-cons have always laughed at PC stuff) to being down-right delusional.

[Blaze Diem]

21. "Pig"????? Well then Mrs Dick Cheney....Go Fuck Yourself.

Oh My, by the way these two talk in pblic, its hard to believe they come from the elite upper crust of our society.

Do the foul mouthed Lynn and Dick Cheney really represented the "best" the Repiblican party has to offer?

What fine examples of filth and hatred they set for the World to see.

[AzDar]

23. Watching her standing behind Crashcart the day following the debates...

when he played his "angry father" role in front of a doting bunch of Bushies, I couldn't help but notice that she looked absolutely DEMENTED. Her hair was mussed, her face pale and glowering, and her eyes were red and crazy-looking. As Dick ran his game, she was nodding behind him like some born-again wingnut at a revival meeting.
She reminded me a great deal of the self-righteous Felicia (I believe that is the name) in The Witches Of Eastwick... the one who spews cherries. She is clearly worried about losing her power come Election Day. Yikes.

[Cha]

25. "Yikes" is right!

she's not ready to let go just cause that sombitch bush is so damn dumb and can't talk right in the debates.

[Erika]

24. Lynn Cheney Pimped Her Own Daughter

She outed Mary. Of course Mary knew she was on the payroll of Peter Coors and the RNC. A lesbian with no honor.

[sundancekid]

26. gift package to Lynne: 1 million lipsticks -- shades of dark-heart red

BTW, have you heard about the Great American Kiss-Off?????

http://www.wakeup2004.com/

[A-Schwarzenegger]

27. AGAIN, PLEASE: HOW DO WE GET THIS ALL OVER THE MEDIA?

Who do we send it to? Is it Homepage Nomination material?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

28. .

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

[nicktom]

29. They are getting desperate. n/t

[2Design]

30. trailer trash - her husband has a potty mouth and she joins him

[deadparrot]

31. She's a spoiled prom queen who never grew up.

[TheDonkey]

32. She a sad woman.

Can't wait until she's forgotten trash.

[life_long_dem]

33. Perhaps we should let it go.

It is painfully obvious they want to disguise the truth of the matter. They have nothing good to say for their camp, so create a diverson. We know they don't really give a crap about Kerry's remark. But, to kool-aid drinkers everywhere it is a horrible, horrible thing.

I don't think any Democrats are going to switch sides because of what Kerry said. Undecided voters will forget this and the only thing they will remember is what is said a couple of days before Nov.2. People seem to have forgotten more important things than this. Let's hope we have smooth sailing.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

34. Once again--BULLSHIT.

This is part of the game. The Repubes would be all over
this like shit on a sidewalk. Thanks for bumping it
though, lifelong.

[Guaranteed]

She did this because THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

Just stop responding!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

40. Nice little Democrat.

Calling Kerry 'a pig' was extraordinary language, even by the standards of an American election campaign that has plumbed new depths of bitterness and divisiveness. No one in the hall batted an eyelid. And no Democrats complained.

[Guaranteed]

41. Trust me, I'd LOVE to hit her back. But she's just trying to drag

this out longer.

Let's win this one by getting back to the issues.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

44. In my view, one mention of this on one station

& the media will run with it & the Dems get back
to the issues & the Mary story is gone.

"Coming up: Did the Vice-President's wife go too far in her
campaign rhetoric?"

[bush equals idiot]

35. It is not worth raising an eyebrow over.

She technically called the "act" of what Kerry did and now explaining it as meant to be complimentary {which of course we all know it was} as putting lipstick on a pig.

So, cleverly worded....but Mrs. Cheney, when you get done showing your phony indignant outrage, will you please ask your husband where the flu vaccine went? It seems there was a problem.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

38. Neither was what Kerry said about Mary

& look where that went. Thanks for the kick.

[demgrrrll]

39. Can you imagine if Teresa called Bush or Cheney a pig? The outcry

would be deafening. Someone should let Lockhart or Terry Mac know about this since they are going to be on the morning shows. If they are asked about the remark they can deflect the remark with this. She made a mistake. That being said I am sick of all these threads about Mary Cheney. I rarely if ever complain but my goodness enough is enough. I want to move on. On edit. I had an e mail from Joe Lockhart it may have been a mass mailing for a donation but I did reply with this information.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

42. Thank you. All some Dem has to do is mention it once

on one big media outlet and then let the Repubes
get entangled in while the Dems go back to the issues.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

37. You can't make a silk purse...

...out of Lynne Cheney.

[Andromeda]

57. LOL!!!

That's a very flattering picture of her but I hate her shade of LIPSTICK.

[justgamma]

45. Edwards has been saying the same thing

about Shrub's policies in his stump speeches.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

49. The hell you say...

Damn.....

Still, this other account sounds to me like she's
talking about Kerry more than his policies...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04288/395755.stm

"Claiming that Kerry has -- with "his fancy talk, fancy haircut and fancy manicure" -- tried to obscure his Senate record, Mrs. Cheney said that in the Cheneys' home state of Wyoming, such a practice is referred to as "putting lipstick on a pig."

[GRLMGC]

46. Clearly, ice water runs through her veins

I wonder if its possible to make her cry. That would be funny.

[Chelsea Patriot]

94. Bitch Will Cry!

Bitch will cry when they come for her for her treasonous activities on 9/11!

Hanging up the telephone so no one could get through to her Impotent Traitor Husband to see if What was going down over the Northeastern Air Corridor was a War Game or in fact an Attack!

When their Little Charade is finally called, and it will be, Dick Cheney's heart will give out.

But Lynn will still be there, with her treasonous daughters, crying.

[Kool Kitty]

50. With all the lies and fuck-ups contained in the debate

last week, THIS is the big story? If you had any questions about what Jon Stewart meant when he ripped Carlson and Begala (and the news spokesmodels in general) a couple of new assholes Friday, this is precisely what he meant. Bush's lies and answer avoidances could fill a four-hour prime time schedule, but hey-Kerry mentioned the Cheneys' homosexual daughter. Now that is really earth-shaking. News people-REPORT THE NEWS. PLEASE.

[Borgnine]

51. Borgnine calls Lynn Cheney "bitch."

n/t

[Forkboy]

52. Reminds me of when Bush 1 called Clinton/Gore bozos

It was then you knew he was toast.

[DesEtoiles]

54. Right back at ya', hog.

[Piperay]

55. Her 'hubby' tells a respected peer

to 'go fuck himself' and she calls the next President of the US a 'pig' :wow: that is class with a capital K, what a pair. x(

[fujiyama]

56. I remembre

that Eminem had some choice words for her.

These sort of comments are not even worth responding to.

That such immature, nasty, hateful people can make it to the top of our government is a sad indictement on our society.

[dezenbunny]

61. Read it again -

She didn't call Kerry a pig. She used a metaphor. Let's try and be honest folks. The biggest problem with this country is people on both sides twisting things around.

Somebody please come up with a viable third party that represents the majority of Americans.

Please?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

67. This is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND.

Your 14th post & you're calling for a third party?
Tried Ralph?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04288/395755.stm

"Claiming that Kerry has -- with "his fancy talk, fancy haircut and fancy manicure" -- tried to obscure his Senate record, Mrs. Cheney said that in the Cheneys' home state of Wyoming, such a practice is referred to as "putting lipstick on a pig."

[dezenbunny]

85. Where did she say...

...Kerry was a pig? It's a metaphor. NOT to be taken literally.

btw - how many posts do I need to have before I can call for a third party?

(and notice, I didn't call for a third party. I called for a third party that represents a majority of Americans. Ralph doesn't represent a majority, either.

Peace

[A-Schwarzenegger]

87. You can call for a third party every single time you post.

Which is exactly what you've done in every single post
of yours that I've seen.

[dezenbunny]

93. You flatter me...

...but it's only been twice.

Peace.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

96. You flatter

yourself.

I had only read two of your posts at the time.
In both of them you called for a third party.
First you did, then you claimed you hadn't, then you did it again.
Now, however, after having read the rest of your posts, I see
that you have yet to post anything even remotely resembling
support for Kerry. What. A. Shock.

[darkism]

62. darkism calls Lynne Cheney "total homophobic bitch." n/t

[MAlibdem]

63. To be fair...

Cheney looks much more like a pig than Kerry does.

[evilqueen]

70. Indeed, one of the fattest pigs at the trough n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

64. Look in the mirror, Lynne.

what a damn wench! Why are the talking heads not screaming about this??? Hmmm. I just can't figure it out. :eyes:

[nostamj]

65. "they will say anything to WIN"

yeah, right. project anyone? they cheneys and their faux 'outrage' is unbelievable in every sense of that word.

THE CHENEY CLAN - with apologies to Sammy Davis Jr.

(To the tune of "The Candy Man")

WHO CAN FAKE AN OUTRAGE
WITH A TAWDRY LIE
MAKING UP AN ISSUE
THAT THEIR FUNDIE BASE WILL BUY?

THE CHENEY CLAN, OH THE CHENEY CLAN CAN
THE CHENEY CLAN CAN 'CAUSE
THEY LOVE TO TWIST THE TRUTH
AND MAKE THE LEFT LOOK BAD

DADDY'S TALKING DIRTY
MOMMY'S WRITING SMUT
WHO THINKS THE WORD 'LESBIAN'S
ANOTHER WORD FOR SLUT?

THE CHENEY CLAN, OH THE CHENEY CLAN CAN
THE CHENEY CLAN CAN 'CAUSE
THEY LOVE TO TWIST THE TRUTH
AND MAKE THE LEFT LOOK BAD

THE CHENEY CLAN'S BLITZ AND THEIR ANGRY FITS
SO POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
RICK SANTORUM THINKS SHE SHOULD BE HATED
BUT YOU WERE NOT AGGRAVATED.

OH, ALAN KEYES CAN DISS HER
IN A NASTY WAY
WHO IGNORES A SLUR
BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE USED TO SWAY?

THE CHENEY CLAN, OH THE CHENEY CLAN CAN
THE CHENEY CLAN CAN 'CAUSE
THEY LOVE TO TWIST THE TRUTH
AND MAKE THE LEFT LOOK BAD

THE CHENEY CLAN PLAYS HARDBALL EVERY DAY
WITH HYPOCRISY THAT'S SHAMELESS
REPUBLICANS ARE ALWAYS BLAMELESS
EVEN WHILE THEY MAKE THE SAME MESS

WHO THINKS GREED'S A GOOD THING?
WHO PROFITS FROM THE WAR?
WHO SHILLS FOR THE RIGHT WING
LIKE A TWENTY DOLLAR WHORE?

THE CHENEY CLAN, OH THE CHENEY CLAN CAN
THE CHENEY CLAN CAN 'CAUSE
THEY LOVE TO TWIST THE TRUTH
AND MAKE THE LEFT LOOK BAD

YES, THE CHENEY CLAN CAN 'CAUSE
THEY LOVE TO TWIST THE TRUTH
AND MAKE THE LEFT LOOK BAD.....

[smirkymonkey]

66. The Cheney's are such a lovely family.

Oink

[evilqueen]

68. Just wait until the "lesbian novel" becomes well-known to the public

That sow will quickly shut her snoot.

[Deja Q]

69. And Lynne wrote that nice book too, in 1981... for her daughter perhaps?

(yes, that is a outrageous accusation. It's also as valid as her accusation of Kerry.)

[rocktivity]

71. But what do you call someone who uses her child as the lipstick?

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[A-Schwarzenegger]

74. I read it in the paper!

How did Lynn Cheney KNOW Kerry was insulting her and
Dick and Mary? He WASN'T. It doesnt matter what IS,
it matters what is PERCEIVED. It matters what is SAID
about what is. Here's another example below. Now first she's
talking about the way KERRY TALKS, and KERRY'S HAIRCUT,
and KERRY'S MANICURE, for God's sakes, and then the writer
(or Lynn herself, since I dont know the transition that's
left out of the story) bends it so she's talking about
his freaking "record." She might as well have said "his
fancy lipstick"! All I'm saying is, somebody should get
it out there once, the monkeysee-monketdo media will swarm
it, and then BushCheneyCO will be derailed for days denying
and explaining it.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04288/395755.stm

"Claiming that Kerry has -- with "his fancy talk, fancy haircut and fancy manicure" -- tried to obscure his Senate record, Mrs. Cheney said that in the Cheneys' home state of Wyoming, such a practice is referred to as "putting lipstick on a pig."

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. Hey you changed your whole post!!

It was a legit question--How do I know she was
talking about Kerry--and I tried to answer it.

[rocktivity]

80. My Apologies for the confusion, Ahhnuld

I was being sarcastic, and I came up with something more useful to say. I figure that if Kerry's the pig, then Mary is the lipstick--and Lynne is the one who applied it.

:headbang:
rocknation

[A-Schwarzenegger]

83. Gotcha, rock, thanks.

[Minimus]

73. I translate that to mean - no matter how nice Kerry speaks of her daughter

she is what she is....

Okay Lynne now I know how you really feel!

[Pepperbelly]

75. I've used the exact phrase re: Dumbo and his pirates many times.

No big deal. A useful figure of speech. The problem is that it doesn't apply to Kerry so much as to Dumbo who indeed is the porcine with lipstick applied and his ass is still pork.

[gauguin57]

77. If this story stays alive, write LTTE's about Lynne's lesbian novel!

If those Cheneys, those fucking hypocrites, try to keep this story alive during the week (I mean, if it dies, let it die, but if they keep it going) ... I think we should all write pithy LTTE's to our local newspapers, showing that Lynne Cheney is willing to make money off a lesbian love story (she wrote a lesbian erotica novel called "Sisters," in 1981, which she has successfully kept out of print since before the 2000 election!) but she is SHOCKED, I TELL YOU that Kerry/Edwards point out that George Bush's policies against gays affect his own V.P.'s CHILD!

I think everyone needs to know this if this story is kept alive!

Here's last night's thread about the novel.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

This has some links to the novel and to passages from it, and even the Amazon site, through which you can find two used copies for $500 apiece! I've already written to Keith Olbermann and John Stewart about this crap! You can email them too, if you'd like. And anyone else in the MSM you think will listen.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

78. How many facelifts has this woman had?

Her complete lack of any hair above and around the ears is a dead giveaway. The skin and muscle that used to be over her cheeks is now above her ears. I don't think her facelifts have been worth the effort. Every time she looks into the mirror, that "lipstick on a pig" saying should be going through her mind.

[rocktivity]

79. The reason why no democrats complained

Calling Kerry 'a pig' was extraordinary language, even by the standards of an American election campaign that has plumbed new depths of bitterness and divisiveness. No one in the hall batted an eyelid. And no Democrats complained.
And no mainstream American news outlet has thought that it's newsworthy. Who are they going to complain to?

The fight will be a brutal slugging match between two campaigns that believe they can win if they make their opponent's faults the main issue.
Bush's faults are real; Kerry's were manufactured by the Bush campaign. The root of Bush's strategy was to convince the electorate that Kerry is more imperfect than he is. The debates, the first one in particular, destroyed that.

...the Democrats, too, are playing dirty. During last week's debate, Kerry specifically mentioned Cheney's lesbian daughter, Mary, during an answer about gay marriage. Edwards had also gone out of his way to bring her up when he debated with Cheney...
Cheney THANKED Edwards, remember? And where was the Cheney family's outrage when Alan Keyes suggested that Mary lifestyle was selfish and hedonistic?

...The debate caught the Republicans off guard. Despite his common man reputation and manglings of the English language, Bush is a strong debater. But his skills were rusty...Bush has held only 15 solo press conferences, while Clinton by this time had held 42 and Bush's father 83...
Kerry also played dirty, pressing Bush's psychological buttons by attacking him constantly on Iraq and comparing his record to that of his father. The result was a disaster for Bush, causing even his wife Laura to scold him for 'not being yourself'...
People who keep their public speaking to a minimum because they mangle their language are the OPPOSITE of master debaters. And what, pray tell, was Kerry SUPPOSED to say--"Right war, right decisions, right policies, right family, right wing?"

If you really mean all this, Mr. Harris, then I have to say that the debates caught YOU off guard, too!

:headbang:
rocknation

[SoCalDemocrat]

81. Some home coming Queen she must of made

Right in line with Dick Cheney telling us "Fuck You"

[A-Schwarzenegger]

82. Another one ...

This is a Florida paper interpreting Dick Cheney's "pig" comment
as a reference to Kerry, not his policies. It doesnt matter what
he meant, it's how it's interpreted...

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/bonitanews/article/0,2071,NPDN_14894_3255796,00.html

Cheney, Graham compete for attention at same time

By CHRISTINA HOLDER, [e-mail]
October 15, 2004

(snip)

The 2 p.m. radio spot, in which Graham said President Bush lacked personal responsibility because he had knowledge of terrorist activity prior to Sept. 11, 2001, came just hours after Cheney told several thousand people at FGCU "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" to describe Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts at a campaign rally sponsored by the Republican National Committee.

[dolstein]

86. My word for Lynn begins with a "C" and ends with a "T"

And no, it's not "cat."

[AntiFascist]

88. That two-faced, troglodyditic, Stepford wife! n/t

[Harlan James]

89. Having served as a mattress for one these past 30 or so years

...Lynn Cheney ought to be quite an expert on the topic.

[GRLMGC]

95. That's repulsive

but true :puke:

[mongo]

90. Hustler's Holiday issue has a piece

on "Sisters", and a pictoral "inspired by lynne Cheney's novel"

HAHAHAHAHHA! Gotta love 'ole Larry Flint.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

91. Oh, man, that is pure Olbermann Top 5 material...

[leeroysphitz]

97. WE know who the real Pigs are...

but why can't we stop HELPING the repukes create and perpetuate meaningless diversions and try to get people's focus back to the real issues?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

98. Thanks for the kick, 45.