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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:36 AM
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It's almost 3:30 a.m. and I'm furious about this endorsement
My leg aches, I can't sleep and I just read this endorsement in the local paper. This is@#$%^&*. And yes, I'm using a few paragraphs beyond 4, but it is necessary to explain my fury. On Wednesday Senator Edwards will be holding a rally in our county. Yesterday the same editor said that we should be giving Edwards the same warm welcome our community gave Bush when he drove through last month.


http://www.timesreporter.com/left.php?ID=34699&r=0&Category=6

Editorial: Voters should give George W. Bush a second term
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(Snip)
On the two major campaign fronts – the war on terror and the economy – Bush has it right. No, he’s not a polished speaker, much to the irritation of elitist New England liberals and hoity-toity people everywhere. So what? It’s the vision, folks.

His opponent continues to define himself as a flip-flopper (“I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it”) and who — when one cuts to the chase — is greatly influenced by the likes of former Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean and northeasterly winds (“Wrong war, wrong time, wrong place.”).

Kerry’s record – and that of his running mate John Edward — in the Senate is abysmal. From Jan. 16, 2003, through Oct. 11, 2004, Kerry voted 82 times out of 668 chances. In comparison, our own Republican Sen. George Voinovich voted 656 times.

Edwards’ hometown newspaper, the Pilot of Southern Pines, N.C., labeled him “Senator Gone.”

Edwards’ claim to fame is that he made millions of dollars in the private sector by suing members of the medical community. We’re not sure what Kerry was thinking when he picked the lackluster, unimpressive Edwards as his choice for vice president. Edwards has only six years’ experience in the Senate and no military service. It now appears he can’t even deliver North Carolina’s 15 Electoral College votes to Kerry.

In a June 25, 2003, editorial entitled “Edwards Should Do His Day Job,” the Pilot said: “During his 30 years in Washington, Jesse Helms was known as ‘Senator No.’ Four and a half years into his first term, John Edwards is becoming known as ‘Senator Gone.’”

more...............including ridiculous pro-Bush statements and a link to the shrub's website.

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Amich Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:41 AM
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1. I can see why your ticked. chenney didn't serve either. the other
fool deserted. you should write him and ask if he is willing to send his kids to Iraq.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:44 AM
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2. Time to write some LTTE of this paper
and debunk all those tired talking points.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:54 AM
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6. I will be writing
First I need to get my anger under control. By the end of the day, I will be marching across the parking lot againt to deliver another letter. Their office is opposite our headquarters. I'll have to invite them over to take a picture of the hundreds of people who will be filing in to get tickets to the Edwards rally.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:44 AM
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3. Soldiers died for 1st Amendment
And this is how this paper chooses to use it, repeating Republican talking points. It's a damned shame.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:52 AM
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4. Here's my LTTE
Dear Editors:

George Bush was wrong about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. He was wrong about a connection existing between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. He was wrong about American forces being greeted as liberators. He was wrong about the number of troops needed to conduct the war. Now he wants us to believe that there will be no draft if he wins a second term. And the reason - because he says so? You will have to forgive me if I don't find that very reassuring, based on his record in Iraq to date.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:53 AM
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5. Well, you have to live there, so . . .
I understand why you're ticked off.

But this is how the opposition has done it -- fed their tired points to lazy "journalists" around the country. If these guys are predisposed to Republicans, then they don't have to think, they can just edit a blast fax and pretend it's a thoughtful response.

Will it work? I dunno. The only way to avoid it is to vote, vote, vote! All your friends, everyone around you, get them to the polls. Turnout will win this for us.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:59 AM
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7. Welcome, MrModerate,
and may I use " fed their tired points to lazy "journalists" around the country." in my reply? I think you have nailed the theme of my response.

Once again, welcome to the underground.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:21 AM
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13. Thanks for the welcome . . .
I've been lurking for some time, but as this thing gets closer, I feel the need to post. I'm not generally into venting (hence my handle), but I want to share in the charge we're all getting out of this. (Not to mention an implacable BUSH-MUST-BE-DEFEATED mindset.)

I'm suffering a particular anxiety right now in that my access to the moment-to-moment passions is muted by my distance from the US(I'm living in Romania at present). I've got CNN International, the Int'l Herald Tribune, and the Internet. Not exactly a balance of sources. I don't feel like I really know what's going on in America.

So when I see a point-or-two drop in the polls for our guy, or a great photo like the Appleton WI one posted here today, I suffer from serious mood swings.

Anyway . . . thanks again.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:26 AM
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26. Try these sources
This is my list of "news" links. Build yourself a nice set of bookmarks for 'round the world coverage. :)
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:12 AM
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19. that sums it up
"fed their tired talking points to lazy journalists" Great line.
That and they're bought and sold corporate media whores.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:01 AM
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8. Sadly, I see the Canton Repository simply reprints this editorial.
Had hoped for better out of the Canton paper. The owner of the Copley papers must be a Kool-Aid drinker. Seems like it's usually small-circ papers that endorse Bush* -- the bigger ones seem to be endorsing Kerry. Wonder if it has something to do with the ownership? Doubtless the Cincinnati papers will mostly endorse Bush* -- but the Dayton Daily News apparently will endorse Kerry.

We know Ohio is a mixed bag, but it's kind of sad to see those papers take the low road, I understand your frustration. I wasn't sure until I saw it posted on here that DDN would endorse Kerry -- I figured they'd go with the incumbent like they've done with all the GOP incumbents in the state.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:04 AM
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9. Interesting
This will also go into my response. Thank you, nownow!
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:14 AM
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15. It's not the same except that it endorses Bush*
The TR editorial is nothing but a GOP commercial complete with sound bites. Rove himself might have written it. The Canton editorial sounds like the local pubbie editor. I'm still incredibly disgusted with the Times Reporter editorial staff. The only thing they left out was, "I'm George Bush and I approve this message."
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:19 AM
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25. Okay -- the header looked the same as the lede in the one you posted.
Of course, I guess there are only so many excuses one can make for endorsing the guy, in our book.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:05 AM
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10. Wow, that's one of the most lazy editorials I've read yet
That's nice that they're just taking GOP talking points and publishing them. It sounds like they made this decision based on campaign ads.

Yuck.
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fishface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:08 AM
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18. That's not an "editorial", it's a Bush campaign commercial.
I guess their core "constituency" are the Morans for Bush" crowd.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:14 AM
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11. it's ridiculous

The real argument here is a class hatred one. Summary: Kerry and Edwards are the rich elitists and snobs in this campaign, that's why Real Americans should vote against them. Never mind which of the two sides will actually act in your best interests,

Your letter could contain a definition of anti-snobbism, which is the essence of the endorsement. And point out what sort of snobs and arrogant slime the Bushies really are. And point out that this editorial engages, literally, in class warfare.

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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:20 AM
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12. I like the "new world order" line in sentance three
That should drive some RWers crazy!!!
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:05 AM
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17. I'm glad you caught that
I used it in my response. Over and over. I know it will drive some righties crazy.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:21 AM
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14. And All That Personal Stuff...
I mean about Edwards being lackluster, deliberately only using the most recent year to demonstrate his attendance record...it's like the Bush team wrote this article and gave it to the paper to publish.

In your response letter be sure to point out that Kerry wants to cut taxes for companies that keep job here, and eliminate tax loopholes for companies moving overseas.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:22 AM
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16. Might I suggest a Sinclairesque ad boycott?
The endorsement is clearly full of debunked lies and propaganda. Methinks a little bit of action might serve to remind them of their duty to honesty.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:36 AM
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20. I wrote to the guy in a commentary:
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 07:47 AM by HypnoToad
George W Bush's record on flip-flopping is far worse than Kerry's, though I am skeptical of Kerry too.

Bush's biggest (recent) flippy that shows Bush doesn't give a darn about the medical problem:

In Debate #2: He was adamant that Canadian drugs were dangerous and that's why he's against their importation.

Then in Debate #3: He nonchalantly says we can simply get that flu vaccine from Canada.

Uh, what's the truth? This dichotomy won't cut any ice with me.

Not to forget Bush's damning flip-flop on Osama. 9/13/01 he said he'd never stop hunting. 3/13/02 he said Osama didn't interest him. That's despicable.

Forgive me, but Bush has no plan, no vision, no concern. (unless his constituents, the top 1% moneymakers who offshore the jobs that support our economy and buy gas wasting SUVs, want another big tax cut to support their habits.)

Not for the health problem. Not for the economy (his record on that is appalling and will destroy America). And certainly not for the "war on terror", which he helped to create. The warnings were there, he chose to ignore them. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Not Clinton's. Bush was in power for nearly a year and his excuse of inadequate means because of the previous president is a crock of steaming cattle cack. He had plenty of time to change things.

Iraq's proving to be another discredit to him as well. He went in on a LIE, just for vengeance. And look at the cost - and not just monetary cost. Lives have been lost and the USA's reputation tarnished; credibility lost. The world is watching.

Bush has nothing for the majority of Americans. If he does, I am not convinced; the debates spoke volumes of volumes. And while I am unsure of Kerry (who is also bought and paid for, the only answer to health care is regulation, price controls, AND dealing with frivolous lawsuits that won't ruin it for legitimate lawsuits), we CANNOT keep Bush in power.
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:26 AM
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24. Thank you, HT
I truly appreciate your reply. cmd
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:46 AM
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21. Quite a few LIES in there...too bad they didn't bother to fact-check first
Too much work, I guess, for news media to fact-check. Why bother, when one can simply write up whatever a politician says.

And of course public servants NEVER EVER lie or misspeak!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:49 AM
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22. Also note the phrase 'new world order'
:scared:

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popstalin Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:55 AM
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23. David Copley CEO
Donated $12000 smackers in 2000 to the RNC but nothing shows for this cycle.

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?20035660130
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