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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:55 AM
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Bush lawyer Thomas Josefiak: "It may takes days or weeks after Nov. 2...
...to determine the winner."

The above quote is from Yahoo (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=1&u=/ap/20041017/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp)

Tom Josefiak's bio (the person responsible for the quote), on the Bush-Cheney 04 Web Site:

"Thomas J. Josefiak will serve as General Counsel to the campaign. Josefiak was the chief counsel to the RNC where he served from 1992 to 2003. Josefiak was appointed to a six-year term as Commissioner on the Federal Election Commission in 1985. He served as FEC Chairman during the 1988 presidential election and as Vice Chairman of the FEC and Chairman of its Finance Committee in 1987. Prior to his appointment as FEC Commissioner, Josefiak was Special Deputy to the Secretary of the Senate and represented the Secretary at the FEC from 1981 to 1985."

http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=1861

Below, Josefiak's response to the revelation that Ben Ginsberg did "double duty" for the Bush Campaign and the Swift Boat Liars:

"In a letter Monday to the Federal Election Commission, Tom Josefiak, general counsel to the Bush-Cheney campaign, said Kerry's complaint is "frivolous" and "baselessly alleging illegal coordination" between the two groups. Josefiak said the "complaint should be promptly dismissed." The campaign also contacted stations that might air a Kerry ad alleging a smear to warn of possible libel."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29821-2004Aug24.html

And the Mercury News has already posted a VERY recent story (Sep. 23, 2004) on Josefiak's inquiries into recount donations:

"WASHINGTON - President Bush's campaign is urging election regulators to allow it and rival John Kerry to raise unlimited individual donations to cover costs for a possible recount, as Bush and rival Al Gore could in 2000.

In a letter to the Federal Election Commission made public Wednesday, the Bush campaign argued that nothing in the campaign finance laws has changed on recount fund raising since 2000.

Bush campaign attorney Tom Josefiak wrote the commission after Kerry's campaign asked the FEC for guidance on its fund-raising options should either campaign pursue a recount like the 2000 Florida ballot dispute that made Bush president. The commission is expected to give Kerry its opinion Sept. 30. In 2000, Bush and Gore could raise unlimited donations from individuals for their recount funds, but were barred from accepting corporate and union money. The Bush campaign argues that should be the case this time as well.

Bush voluntarily limited his recount donations to $5,000 each and raised nearly $14 million for the Florida recount; Josefiak said the campaign hasn't yet discussed whether he would also limit contributions if there is a recount this year. Gore took unlimited donations and spent about $3.2 million on the recount."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/election2004/9735142.htm?1c
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:58 AM
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1. this is a warning
that they have stolen the election already and litigation/protests will take weeks. It's 'over'.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:59 AM
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3. Oh thanks for that injection of optimism.
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 11:00 AM by ClassWarrior
That's not frickin helpful.

I, for one, WILL NOT GIVE UP, and I doubt if any TRUE progressive will.

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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:19 PM
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8. notice that I used the word 'over'
between quotes. Optimism, by the way, does not win elections. Knowing how to anticipate your opponent does.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:00 AM
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4. That's a tad bit defeatist don't you think?
:eyes:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:04 AM
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5. It never fails to amaze me that disruptors don't understand...
...that their disruptions just motivate us to work even harder!

"It's hard work."
- Ol' Blameless, the Excuse pResident

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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:30 AM
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6. Trail lawyers
You would think we would have the edge in the lawyer battle. We also are pretty good about raising money quickly if needed. They said the bush team raised 14million. I think Soros could step in. plus online drives have raised significant cash rapidly.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:19 PM
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9. no
notice that I used the word 'over' between quotes.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:37 AM
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7. Bullshit, Kerry Will NOT Allow These Reptiles To Prevail
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:24 PM
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10. let's hope you are right
and Kerry doesn't behave like Gore did. Gore knew he was the winner, but simply laid back and watched the mobsters on the Supreme Court hand the presidency to the Unelected Fraud on a silver platter.
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:59 AM
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2. Another court appointed pResident ?
Please let this nighmare end for my country ,my family ,my friends and neighbors. I have never prayed so much for a politician to lose an election . I want so badly to see bushes expression while Kerry is being sworn in as President ! Lets send him home(bush) to crawford ,so he can get a break from all of that Hard Hard Work !
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