Just announced on CNN -- Bush leads 52-44 among likely voters

[dolstein]

and leads 49-46 among registered voters. These figures come from the USA Today/Gallup/CNN daily tracking poll.

[juslikagrzly]

1. These polls give me ulcers

and heart palpitations! Yet, I'm curiously pulled to read all these poll posts! AARRGG

[mazzarro]

2. Yea - the crappy news network poll!

eom

[SoCalDemocrat]

47. ATTENTION: GALLUP/CNN/USA Today are a FRAUD

They're 100% fraudulent and not-reliable. The only thing you need to do in response is to write their editors to complain about their partisan and biased polling practices.

[Bush was AWOL]

3. I saw that too

Gallup has about a 8 point swing every two weeks. I want to see the internals. I'm calling BS.

[Judi Lynn]

22. Another thread in GD-Campaign 2004 says Gallup used 9% more Republicans

Doesn't sound too "fair and balanced," after all, does it?

I heard this myself in the last day or two, and had forgotten. Even saw it written, and admitted by Gallup on a cable news show (never Fox, of course), so I'm tempted to believe it.

Gallup HAS been giving some strange reading this year.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I Saw It But I Wasn't About To Post It...

It does seem to be an outlier....


I think Gallup had Bush with a thirteen point lead at a similar time in 00....

[Doosh]

5. ugh

:( what the hell are these clowns on?

[kohodog]

6. They must be getting desperate

Another way to surpress the vote is to make it seem like Bush has it locked up.

CNN has certainly changed it's tune over the last six months. It is almost like a radio station changing from Rock to Country overnight.

I don't watch them any more.

[liberalmuse]

7. Bah!

I find this extremely hard to believe. I guess we'll see in a couple of weeks, won't we?

[nostamj]

8. "polls" <feh!>

SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP

(To the tune of "Take This Job and Shove It")

SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE
THE SAMPLES ARE SKEWED
YOU SAY IT'S TOO CLOSE--
HEARD THAT LIE BEFORE.
YOUR POPULAR POLLING SIMPLY DOESN'T MEAN SHIT
AL GORE KNOWS THE SCORE...
SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE

I'VE BEEN LIVING WITH THESE FASCISTS
FOR NEARLY FOUR LONG YEARS
ALL THIS TIME, I WATCHED MY COUNTRY
BEING RUN BY FEAR AND SMEARS
CAN WE ASK HOW MANY MORE MEN MUST DIE,
ALL THE ONES WHOSE VOTES ARE LOST?
I WON'T GIVE IN TO YOUR RIGHT WING SPIN,
YOUR PROJECTIONS ARE A LIE!

SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE
THE SAMPLES ARE SKEWED
YOU SAY IT'S TOO CLOSE--
HEARD THAT LIE BEFORE.
YOUR POPULAR POLLING SIMPLY DOESN'T MEAN SHIT
AL GORE KNOWS THE SCORE
SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE

WELL MY MAMA'S HEARIN' RUSH LIMBAUGH'S RANTS
AND EV'RY FOX NEWS SHOW.
IF YOU ASK FOR HER OPINION
YOU KNOW SHE DON'T KNOW.
ELECTION DAY, WE BRING IT TO A STOP
YOU LIARS ARE GONNA PAY
AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOUR FACES
WHEN THE MAJORITY CAN SAY:

SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE
THE SAMPLES ARE SKEWED
YOU SAY IT'S TOO CLOSE--
HEARD THAT LIE BEFORE.
YOUR POPULAR POLLING SIMPLY DOESN'T MEAN SHIT
AL GORE KNOWS THE SCORE
SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP
I WON'T BUY YOUR CRAP NO MORE

SCREW YOUR POLLS AND SHUT UP!

[Kukesa]

39. Nost, can we puleeze think LANDSLIDE again? n/t

[nostamj]

41. here ya go!

IN A LANDSLIDE

[popstalin]

9. Also, Gallup contributed much money

to the Repug party. It's skewed and can't be trusted IMO.

[WI_DEM]

10. Bull

When every other tracking poll shows a race which is neck and neck or 2-3 points here comes Gallup with a 8-point lead for Bush. He's back to interviewing more republicans than dems again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. It's Curious...

At least posts like yours are constructive and give us something to discuss...

I will watch the race and all the polls with a great deal of interest...

I do find it interesting that Gallup had Bush with a thirteen point lead at this time in 2000....


http://gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=1210

[milkyway]

11. No fucking way. nt

[DenverDem]

12. Polls are bullshit propaganda.

Just GOTV!

[slinkerwink]

13. probably oversampled republicans again

[mzmolly]

14. What do they mean by "likely" voters, and why on earth is Bush leading?

:(

[independentpiney]

15. That's just absurd n/t

[Mizmoon]

16. It's still anyone's race

and I'd say that even if Kerry was ahead.

[ET Awful]

18. BULLSHIT.

That is all.

[Doosh]

19. polled 9% more republicans! 9%!!!!!!!!

Throw this poll into the trash, it's about as accurate as Bush 52% Gore 39%

[troublemaker]

20. link to poll and/or internals?

[Judi Lynn]

24. Here's an article you might study:

The Gallup Poll Debunked And Exposed

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/29/0450/00861

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. We Are Aware Of Gallup's Bias....

but I'd like to see the numbers for this poll...

[Bush was AWOL]

26. Wow! That is very telling. Thank You

They consistently poll 5-7% more Republicans.

[AmerDem]

21. LOL, pathetic

They couldn't put out numbers like this after his embarrasing showings in the debates. They wait a few days and drip by drip say he is actually winning and as I watched on 2 Sunday morning shows they are saying he WON the last debate (especially This Week with lil Georgie).

Wait this montra is going to be in full force come tomorrow and continue all the way to the election. Someone best start speaking out now about these crazy numbers!

[Shopaholic]

23. And CNN and all the news organizations will be screaming the

results of this poll from the rafters today completly forgetting to mention the fact that they oversampled Repugs by some 9%! Asses.

[Rose Siding]

27. They've just been waiting for a headline

What's a headline go for these days? WE should buy one of those :grr:

Oversample by 9% = 8% lead

[salin]

28. Frankly... I just don't get it

I honestly do not get it. Am I the only person who looks at my finances... and worries how I can put enough aside to survive in retirement? Am I the only one who looks at the new jobs being created (low wage) and worries about how folks living on those wages can survive if there is an illness in the family, can send any children to college, and/or can survive in retirement? Am I the only one who recognizes that while I am not among the poor - the evaporation of a public safety net threatens our long term economic viability?

Forget the political spin on polls... I honestly do not understand how it can even be close in the polls. I do not understand how people can evaluate their current economic position - and not be worried. I just don't get it.

[Native_Iowan]

31. Unfortunately...

the leading issue is national security, and a majority of Americans have drunk the kool-aid on that one, giving Dubya higher marks. Not to fret, though, this tracking poll appears to have oversampled Republicans and is easily the most friendly to Bush on this particular day.

Like you though, I have lost faith in many of my fellow citizens to make an informed choice. Whereas most Americans are not really idiots (though as an electorate, we are the most uninformed in the western world), it is the small fraction of citizens completely ignorant of current issues whom always decide elections. GRRRRRRRR!!!!

[salin]

46. Don't get the response on "security" either...

no facts just gut instincts... and lets trust 'em... forget that he runs businesses into the ground (the bankruptcy ceo/president)... lets forget that he hasn't fired anyone/held them accountable for any of the foreign policy misteps... lets pretend he has put any real money into securing borders... lets pretend that the over-reliance on the national guard in Iraq has left many communities public safety undermanned (first due to folks who are first responders serving in the reserves and now being called up and thus not on duty locally, second due to a primary mission of calling up reserves locally in times of disaster - but now they are not there... look to florida for an example of overtaxed emergency system.)... then lets pretend that he actually requests information pros and cons before making national security decisions - like... go after Osama or pull those resources to go after Saddam... None of these things requires a close following of the news to discern.

[PCIntern]

29. Between those numbers which are BS

and Leslie's delivery - I had to run to the pot and take a giant dump.

Leslie said that some other polls (some people say?) are 'slightly' different.

Yeah - like those showing Kerry in the lead?

Bastards...

[Renew Deal]

30. OK

Sure

[mvd]

32. Didn't trust them when they had Kerry doing well, and I don't..

trust them now.

[joefree1]

33. October 29, 2000, CNN poll: Bush maintains 7-point lead over Gore

CNN poll: Bush maintains 7-point lead over Gore

October 29, 2000
Web posted at: 12:54 p.m. EST (1754 GMT)

By CNN Polling Director Keating Holland

WASHINGTON (CNN) - GOP presidential candidate Texas Gov. George W. Bush continued to maintain an advantage over Democratic Vice President Al Gore in Sunday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.

Forty-nine percent of respondents said they supported Bush while 42 percent said they would vote for Gore, no change at all from Saturday's poll.

Support for Green Party candidate Ralph Nader and Reform Party candidate Patrick Buchanan also remained unchanged at 3 percent and 1 percent respectively.
More ...
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/29/tracking.poll/


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[exliontamer]

34. Nope. I don't buy it.

It's pretty widely known that Gallup samples more Republicans than Democrats; I don't have a link to that info, but it's been posted here and elsewhere before.

Gallup has always been the most insane of the polls, fluctuating all over the map. The only consistant feature to all recent Gallup presidential polls is that they never seem to show the Dem in the lead.

Check out this 2000 Gallup poll taken a few weeks before Gore won the popular vote...

Bush 52%
Gore 39%
Nader 4%

http://edition.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/27/tracking.poll/

[are_we_united_yet]

35. whatever

[Cha]

36. "Likely voters"...does that include

Newly registered voters?

Just asking.

[naufragus]

37. Regardless...

the campaign and DNC need to go into high gear.

this poll should not be the news...the scary NYT article about Bush should.

then campaogn needs to make sure everyone inthe country knows bush is nuts.

[LibertyorDeath]

38. That is complete BullShit.!!

I am sick of these fucking polls.

Skewed crap. Come on Nov 2 then you'll see what a real frigging poll

looks like.

[LouisianaDem34]

40. likely voters mean,mmmm

they mostly sampled white males?.

[demgrrrll]

42. Whoa! Capt'n !This ship isn't gonna take another shock like that!!

CNN is owned in part by the Saud-i's La LA LA connect the dots
LA LA LA connect the dots...News, if you want to call it that, GOOD or BAD should not be taken seriously. Now back to work and on to victory.

[shmendrick]

43. 52-44?

That doesn't sound right at all.

Remember nationwide numbers don't count. Only state by state electoral college votes do.

So if Shrub is winning 70-30 in Texas, than this may add to the bias in the polls.

[calmblueocean]

44. Remember: Polls are psychological warfare. Don't give in. (n/m)

[unfrigginreal]

45. LOL - Gallup was crap before this poll and they'll be crap after it

Pay attention to Zogby.

[GaryL]

48. Ignore Gallup and CNN.

Judas priest! Everyone seems to blank Faux just fine. CNN is a third rate Faux wannabe. Do what I do an turn it off.

[budkin]

49. Stop worrying about the polls!!!

We need to focus on getting out the vote. Kerry is so close we can all taste it, but we can't bellyache about any more polls. We will prove all of this skewed bullshit completely wrong come election day. Agnonizing about this stuff gets absolutely nothing done.