ruggerson
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Sun Oct-17-04 12:02 PM
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Gallup's Swings Are Distorted |
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Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 12:03 PM by ruggerson
Here's the Likely Voter numbers from 7 days ago
Kerry 49 Bush 48
Here they are from today's poll
Bush 52 Kerry 44
Gallup wants us to believe that in an incredibly tight election, with all the other polls showing the race between 0 and 4 points, within the margin of error, that there was a 4 point loss for Kerry and a 4 point gain for Bush in the space of a week. Just doesn't happen. Not in the real world of statistics, unless there is a major event. Gallup's numbers are distorted because they do not adjust their samples - Zogby and Rassmussen would also show wild swings from day to day (that is the nature of polling), but they are smart enough to re weight their results instead of just spewing out raw data like Gallup does. Basically, these Gallup numbers, just like the ones last week showing Kerry leading, are worthless.
Trust the tracking polls, which do rolling averages for three days. This is about a 2 point race right now, which is good news for Kerry as the challenger usually picks up the overwhelming majority of the undecideds.
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Sun Oct-17-04 02:15 PM
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1. Gallup has a consistent track record of being all over the map |
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This is what Gallup told us in 2000: ALL LV
Oct17
Bush 48 Gore 42
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct18
Bush 49 Gore 39
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct19
Bush 50 Gore 40
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct20
Bush 51 Gore 40
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct21
Bush 50 Gore 41
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct22
Bush 46 Gore 44
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct23
Bush 45 Gore 46
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct 24
Bush 48 Gore 43
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct25
Bush 49 Gore 42
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct26
Bush 52 Gore 39
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct27
Bush 49 Gore 42
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct28
Bush 49 Gore 42
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct30
Bush 47 Gore 44
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Oct31
Bush 48 Gore 43
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov1
Bush 47 Gore 43
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov2
Bush 48 Gore 42
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov3
Bush 47 Gore 43
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov4
Bush 48 Gore 43
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov5
Bush 47 Gore 45
Note: Gore went on to win the popular vote.
Nov6 (last poll before the election)
Bush 48 Gore 46
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Sun Oct-17-04 04:06 PM
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2. It's even more ridiculous when you consider |
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that their polls also showed Kerry as having won the debate last week.
Basically, they are showing a 9 point shift from Kerry to Bush OVER AND ABOVE anyone who shifted from Bush to Kerry after the debates.
If you estimate (conservatively) that 3-4% of the electorate switched from Bush to Kerry after Wednesday, it would mean that 12-13% of the electorate switched from Kerry to Bush.
If you really believe that 15-17% of the total electorate shifted last week, I have some beachfront property to sell you in Arizona.
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