howard dean, doctor assisted suicide for the democratic party

[bearfartinthewoods]

is the slogan for the draft hillary movement in NH according to fox carl cameron who also says they have purchased ads.

[hellhathnofury]

1. The only people I hear talking about Hillary are

Faux News watchers. Everytime she appears, "I think she's running, Will she run? What would a Hillary entry do to the race."

I'm sick of this. The Clintons gave away our easy moral high ground. Everytime I get into an argument with a Repube it's "you can't trust Clinton, perjury."

[bearfartinthewoods]

5. there are a couple websites

http://www.votehillary.org/ is collecting signatures.

it's her faullt. all she had to do was use the standard refusal with tweety, but she didn't/wouldn't

[mmonk]

6. Its their continuing obsession

It keeps them blind.

[LoZoccolo]

13. When I hear it it's usually them trying to associate her with Clark.

Disclaimer: I'm not posting this trying to smear Clark myself. I actually like him a lot.

But yeah, I think it might be that they're afraid to attack Clark directly because it'll look like they're dissing a general, but they're trying to associate him and the Clintons as in indirect smear. I've seen FReepers say stuff to the effect of "sure he fought a war, but it was Clinton's war." Shows you they'll smear anyone.

Even in the infamous clip where it's Clark vs. Fox News (Clark WINS!), the reporter asks him if Bill Clinton cast the deciding vote:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?4908&FOX_News_Live&Setting%20the%20Record%20Straight&wvx-56

Step back and think about this for a second...we're losing soldiers and control in Iraq, it looks like a mess we can't get out of, and here's someone who says he's got a plan to succeed there. And he's not just some armchair guy that thinks he knows what he's doing but doesn't, he's a four-star general. Wouldn't a reporter want to ask him about the plan? But no, he asks him about Bill Clinton, takes some quote by him and twists it around to make it look like he doesn't appreciate the troops...unbelievable.

[meow mix]

2. eeps

he's gonna explode when he hears about this. KabOOm!!
hope no one gets hurt..

[hellhathnofury]

4. Bull. It's old and stale.

[adadem]

7. LOL!

n/t

[hellhathnofury]

9. Not funny at all.

How much are Kerry's haircuts?

[pasadenaboy]

3. Yawn

Enough with drafting people . The Clintons like Clark, why would Hillary feel the need to run?

[BurtWorm]

8. How much FOX do you watch, bearfart?

Why are you violating the no right wing media rule?

[quaker bill]

10. Whatever.

But they do have the party wrong. The Dr. will be administering the treatment to the repugs.

[eileen from OH]

11. Okay, I'll say it. . .

I was a Clinton supporter, I think Hillary is one smart cookie and a truly dedicated Senator to her state.

There. Now go away for awhile. Please.

I am a loyal Dem and I have MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR Clinton fatigue.

eileen from OH

[Hoppin_Mad]

12. "Wes Clark - Republican assisted suicide for the Democratic Party" ;-) -eo

[DemBones DemBones]

14. It's a great line because it rings true.

We need to go with someone already in the race, though. It just needs to be someone other than Dean. We're dead with Dean.

[BurtWorm]

16. Maybe there should be a mass switch to DK.

Think there's enough time? Think that will save the party?

[mouse7]

15. Oh, that's a beauty.

Yeah... that helps heal party divides.

I've got a 90 post thread up saying in part that Edwards is a pretty decent guy that might be able to attract some Dean supporters if Dean doesn't win the nomination, and you come along with this divisive crap.

Very nice. I'm sure Sen. Edwards appreciates your help and support.

[bearfartinthewoods]

18. i didn't write the slogan...take it up with the people who did

you can believe me or not, but this thread was a head's up relay of info. did you notice any glee? did you notice i blame her for not defitiel;y ending this?

[BurtWorm]

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[mouse7]

21. YOU posted that headline on DU

Or are you going to claim the people that put together the other website burst into your home and forced you at gunpoint to enter their headline into your computer under your account?

Lots of neo-cons post lots of head line that aren't allowed at DU, too.

[specimenfred1984]

17. I'd Vote For Chelsea Instead of Bush*

I'd also vote for Dean, Clark, Kerry, Braun, Kucinich, Sharpton, Lieber-woman, Gepfart, Hillary or any muthaflankin' democrat that runs!

Bash Dean all you want, he's a dem and if he gets the nod I'm voting for him. This is not a simplistic view, it's a realist view. Of all the things to discuss like WMD lies, war crimes, O'Neill outing the Iraq conspiracy etc..., you instead chose to equate the leading democrat with suicide.

I choose to equate all the dem candidates with the only choice we have to avoid fascism, economic depression, permanent war, terrorist attacks, destruction of social programs, racism and 1984-type doublespeak.

Great job bashing a dem, if anything spells suicide for the democratic party it's dem-bashers.

[stickdog]

20. Please draft all the IWR yes voters.

The troops could use their help.

[Dr.Phool]

22. Hillary's not running.

Make no mistake about it. I'll support and campaign for any DEM who's nominated. But, if Lieberman is nominated, I might be living in Costa Rica by then. I support Howard Dean with both my time and checkbook. But, I am losing a lot of respect for some candidates over a lot of the attacks.

Al Sharpton used to have some good one-liners, and added some substance to the debates, but can anyone say Tawana Brawley? I think John Edwards would make a great VP. Kerry, who probably has the most experience of the group just comes off as too pompous. Time has passed Gephardt by, and he's been too much of a Bush enabler to get my vote. Mosley-Braun might make a good Sec. of State, but even though she apologized, she's still portrayed as a dictator hugger(refering to Abacha as a "friend"?). Clark leaves too many questions unanswered. He was a great military man, but how much do we really know about him. Maybe I can be convinced, maybe not. Dennis Kucinich is probably the only genuine progressive running, but I'm from Cleveland originally, and he has a lot of skeletons in his closet.



That leaves the good doctor. Howard Dean has mobilized the base of this party like no one has ever done, and you're beginning to see a phenomenon like the Reagan Democrats. Only it's the Dean Republicans.
I work in our county (in Florida) DEM HQ every Monday, returning calls from over the week-end. We get a lot of Republicans that can't support Bush anymore, and they ALL ask about Dean.

:kick:

[Moderator]

23. Locking....

This is inflammatory.

Thanks,

DU Moderator