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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:05 AM
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"Has any president ever been dealt a more difficult hand?"
There is a Bush ad running here about how hard the boy king has had it since becoming president.

This ad annoys me so much...like people are supposed to vote for him out of pity!!!!

So, as an intellectual exercise and for our own amusement, which presidents have had worse "luck" in their first term?

Let's see...Lincoln: elected, a bunch of states seceded, then the Civil War.

What do you all think?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:06 AM
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1. FDR
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:08 AM
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2. Has any president ever stacked the deck like this against the American
people before?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:09 AM
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3. Lincoln
Or FDR.

Amazing how well Bush fucked us all.
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:10 AM
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4. James Madison
He had to evacuate the White House during the War of 1812 - the British burned it! Poor W only got to spend 40% of his time on vacation. What a tragedy.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:12 AM
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5. Bush was dealt a BEAUTIFUL hand.
He came in at the end of the best 8 years of our country, probably.

And then he fucked it all up. Thanks, Bush!!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:25 AM
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23. Yes--and even the tragedy of 9-11 led to world wide support
and sympathy, and he chose to squander it and alienate our friends, and then go after Saddam instead of Bin Laden.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:25 AM
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24. exactly right
What president was dealt a better hand?
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:12 AM
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6. JFK, LBJ, FDR, Wilson, Lincoln
What else has he had other than 9/11, which was done by 19 people?

Compare that to: secession of half the states, Cuban missle crisis, Vietnam war and civil rights struggle, the Great Depression and the axis war machine, dragging the country in to WWI.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:26 AM
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25. Which he probably had a hand in creating..... 9/11 that is
Certainly he LIHOP. Mr. Trifecta.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:13 AM
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7. Has any president dealt from the bottom like this cheater?
MIHOP.

We all know what happened to card sharps in the old west.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:14 AM
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8. hey, It's hard work!
:silly:
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:34 AM
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26. A hand job is better than no job
or so I've been told.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:14 AM
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9. Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Wilson...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:15 AM
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10. Has any president been less capable? And has any whined about how hard...
...the work is?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:19 AM
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11. Let's see
Lincoln inheriting a nation torn apart and drifting into civil war.
FDR inheriting the Great depression
Truman inheriting World War II and wide ranging decisions such as the use of the Atomic Bomb.
Eisenhower--inheriting the Korean War
Nixon--inheriting the Vietnam War and discontent in the nation.
Ford--inheriting a stagment economy and a nation torn by Watergate
Clinton--inheriting mountain of debt and high unemployment

What did Bush inherit? a surplus and a strong economy and a world at peace. Why don't people "get it" that 9/11 happened under Bush's watch and he had been warned of this kind of attack and took no actions to try to prevent it.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:20 AM
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12. I agree with the ad...
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 07:27 AM by slor
FDR only had to deal with a small group of goofy Germans and Japanese. Wilson, having an even easier time, only had to deal with a couple of goofy Germans. Lincoln merely had to stop a argument between a couple of brothers. I could go on, but why? Our great leader, had to deal with an onslaught of vacation days, and that BRUSH, my god, he had to cut the brush!
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:25 AM
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13. I say : Cry me a river
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 07:26 AM by are_we_united_yet
You don't take the job if you are not prepared to deal with difficult circumstances. He wasn't applying for a fast food job.

Analogy: In the NFL if you are head coach and you don't win and your half of your team hates you, you are fired. Can't turn around and say, but I had a team full of scrubs.

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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:28 AM
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14. I Thought He Said He Hit The Trifecta...Sounds Like...
one of those EGGS-agera-TIONS.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:30 AM
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15. Bush folded his aces. Richard Clarke could have stopped 9/11 from
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 07:30 AM by istherehope
happening if given the chance. Bush was too stupid to see the cards he had and what was left in the deck.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:35 AM
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16. Bush* made his hand...
.... he ignored numerous credible warnings of an impending attack.

People need to remember - 911, the worst terrorist attack in our history, happened on Bush*'s watch.

Every president is dealt a tough hand, it's how they handle it that matters. Bush* has failed abjectly in every sphere.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:39 AM
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18. Bush has dealt all of American a bad hand
Bush heard about the terrorist threats and went on vacation. If he thinks he has it tough he should speak to some of the people who's lives were ruined on 9/11/01, or over in Iraq. How this Chimp dares to air an ad full of whiny self-pity is beyond me. This refines my diagnosis to Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:37 AM
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17. Uhhhh Franklin D Roosevelt maybe LOL
Oh yeah, Bush has it so rough, we are now the ONLY superpower in the world. I would say all the Presidents from the 30's to the mid 80's had it a lot tougher.


What ever made him think he could do it in the first place.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:46 AM
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19. What Hand
has this guy been "dealt"? The only thing he was dealt was 9/11. Aside from that he inherited a surplus and half of Congress, which soon turned to a whole Congress. Everything else is the result of how he played his hand.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:55 AM
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20. bush was the dealer who dealt the hand and he had the cards marked.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:06 AM
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21. But...but.....but....!
Dear Leader said he hit the trifecta! He was so pleased about it. Why does 'Murika hate our pResident so much?! **sniffle** I mean, how hard could the Cuban Missile Crisis have been for JFK? Was the Great Depression really all that difficult for FDR? Could the Iranian hostages have made it ANY easier for Jimmy Carter? Slackers, I tell you! **outrage!**

;)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:22 AM
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22. What about Washington?
It wasn't exactly paradise after setting up the country.

Chimpy's Pity Party ad is disgusting and cowardly....just like him.
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:51 PM
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27. Thank you all....
I knew that this would make me feel better!

That ad runs several times a day in my area and it drives me crazy for many of the reasons people have cited!
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