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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:32 AM
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I just voted by mail!!!
John Kerry President
Ron Wyden Senator
David Wu Congress
NO ON 36



We have vote by male in Oregon!!!
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:33 AM
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1. do females get to vote too?
Congratulations! Good to hear it.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:37 AM
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2. Oregon vote by mail
I voted last night. I was wondering, have any of you Oregonians read the hilarious arguments in favor of the gay marriage ban in our state voter's guide? Some dude bought $1500 worth of arguments (3 total at $500 apiece) and absolutely slam dunks the "word of the bible". I don't have a voter guide in front of me or I would scan that page.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:43 AM
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3. I FOUND IT!
ok this is hilarious guys, get a box of kleenex first before reading:

Measure 36Argument in Favor
CULTURE WAR!

Traditional values are under attack, and sexual perverts are attempting to strain the definition of marriage far beyond what God has ordained. The Word of the Lord must be legislated as Oregon public policy.

In the Holy Bible, Saint Paul says that Christians should remain single and abstain from sex. The New Testament says that people should get married only if they are too weak-willed to abstain from sex:

"It is well for a man not to touch a woman…. It is well … to remain single as I do. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion." (I Corinthians 7:1, 8-9)

Marriage is not sacred. Marriage is for wimps and sissies!

Oregon public policy should define marriage in accordance with divinely inspired Scripture. Therefore, marriage licenses should be granted only to those persons who have been certified by professional psychiatric examination to be too weak-willed to abstain from sex.

Oh, by the way, although Jesus never said a single word condemning homosexuality, if heterosexuals can't get married, homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry either—well, unless they're too weak-willed to abstain. Sissies!

The sissy institution of marriage must not be perverted by sinners who are capable of abstaining! The sacred union of church and state must prohibit the immoral union of men and women capable of the discipline of sexual abstinence. We are not saved by either faith or good works. We are saved by religious-right legislation!

Freedom of religion and equal treatment under law is simply the special right to sin, because our tradition is the one and only truth! And our tradition (that is, our personal moral opinions) should become law.

AGREE WITH US OR BURN IN HELL!

(This information furnished by M. Dennis Moore, Traditional Prejudices Coalition.)

Argument in Favor
MARRIAGE IS SACRED!
The Bible says that marriage is for procreation. God made Adam and Eve, and Adam and Eve made Cain and Abel, not an empty nest.
Marriage is for procreation. If you're not pro-Creation, you're anti-God. And once a marriage has been solemnized, sex is serious business. The solemnity of sex must not be abused for sinful pleasures. Sex is for procreation, not recreation. And marriage is for breeding purposes.
Therefore, it should be Oregon public policy that
· Homosexuals may not marry.
· Infertile persons may not marry.
· Men with vasectomies may not marry.
· Women with hysterectomies may not marry.
· Post-menopausal women may not marry.
· Persons planning to use birth control may not marry.
· Non-virgins may not marry (Deuteronomy 22:13-21).
· Inter-racial couples may not marry (Deuteronomy 7:3).
And couples who fail to conceive within two years ought to have their marriage licenses revoked.
Additionally, the Bible says that
· Divorced persons may not marry (Luke 16:18).
· And if a man dies without leaving a male heir, it is his brother's responsibility to impregnate the widow (Genesis 38:6-10). If he refuses, he shall be fined one shoe (Deuteronomy 25:5-10).
This is the sacred word of the Lord, steadfast and unchanging.
Traditional morality must become Oregon public policy. All of it. And the older the tradition, the better. The separation of church and state be damned. In order to protect the sanctity of marriage and the sacred institution of heterosexual procreation, unequal treatment and discrimination must be legislated consistently against all persons who cannot or will not breed as God intended. It is God's will that we multiply and fill the Earth and finally subdue it when the population explosion self-implodes. Praise God!
Love is not good enough a reason to marry, because marriage is only for
HETEROSEXUALBREEDING.COM
(This information furnished by M. Dennis Moore, Defense of Heterosexual Breeding Coalition.)

Argument in Favor
THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY IS UNDER ATTACK!
Frightening new unprecedented social changes are threatening old traditional values. And these attacks on tradition have been escalating--for millennia!
First there was Original Sin when Eve disobeyed God! Then the Flood! Then Abraham abandoned the traditional practice of human sacrifice! Then Jews instituted the modern covenant of circumcision! Then Moses brought down from Mount Sinai a bunch of new-fangled Laws on stone tablets! And later Jesus abolished them and preached instead the radical new Golden Rule!
Polygamy fell out of favor! Women were no longer mere pieces of property belonging to men! Next these uppity women demanded the right to vote! Families could no longer own slaves! Prohibition saved the family from destruction by Demon Rum! The nineteenth-century extended families on American farms were destroyed by the 1950s social engineering of the "Leave It to Beaver" suburban cookie-cutter nuclear families! Blacks refused to ride in the back of the bus! Women demanded equal pay for equal work! Single parents demanded respect! Gays and lesbians demanded an end to hatred and oppression! Flower children protested traditional mass-murder warfare and genocide! Divorce skyrocketed! The silence surrounding child abuse was broken!
Frightening social changes continued! And then the religious right began a righteous backlash! First they accused gays and lesbians of being promiscuous! And when this failed, they began accusing them of having long-term committed monogamous relationships and wanting to get married!
Where will it all end? After 6,000-some years of frightening attacks on old traditional values, will history never cease to unfold? Will God never stop throwing all of these radical social changes at us?
My friends, there is a simple answer. All you have to do is

VOTE TO TURN THE CLOCK BACK!

It's really that simple!
Now, which one of these radical social changes will this measure turn the clock back to? Oh, come on, let's just
LEAVE IT TO BEAVER!
(This information furnished by M. Dennis Moore, The Beaver State Defense of Beaver Coalition.)

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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:55 AM
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4. I read that in my voters guide
and I literally almost choked in disgust. This man paid 1500 for hate speech and all he did was prove how big of an ignorant moron he is.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:59 AM
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5. Wasn't that satire? Or have I completely lost it? n/t
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:11 AM
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6. total SATIRE
I can't believe you couldn't figure out that was satire!!!

I thought it was brilliant.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:20 AM
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8. voters
Hate speech?
What is yes on 34 but hate
What is defense of marriage, defending against what?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:44 AM
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10. Nobody is that creative
here in CA. All our Propositions read like accounting manuals. Zzzzzz.

HETEROSEXUALBREEDING.COM ROTF!

I'm going to send this to lots of people.

MzPip
:dem:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:59 PM
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15. You can directly link people to the voters pamphlet as well
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:58 AM
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12. This should have its own thread
This is priceless. :-)

MzPip
:dem:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:57 PM
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14. Hi Dawnlin71!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ohmyman1 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:20 AM
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7. vote early and often
I voted early on Saturday, touch screen system here in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:37 AM
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9. Paper trail?
Was there any way to confirm your vote? Just curious.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:50 AM
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11. My ballot just went off
And as soon as it hits the county registrar's office, my phone miraculously goes dead at least as far as advocacy calls go.
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mwdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:01 PM
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13. I got my ballot in the mail last Wednesday,
and I promply filled it out & personally took it to the election office. I noticed quite a few Kerry/Edwards stickers on cars in the lot, and this is in Johnson County, Kansas!
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:00 PM
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16. I voted today too
Vote by Mail rocks!
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:00 PM
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17. YES! thank you for voting! just turned mine in today
I bragged about filling it out Saturday...but I waited til today to mail it right in the post office. Now...we gotta get out the vote.
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