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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:27 AM
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Josh Marshall reports NBC/WSJ poll of LV due out tonight is dead heat!
NBC/WSJ has its new poll out tonight. And I hear it's got welcome news for Kerry. Dead even among likely voters.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:30 AM
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1. Good News
Even though I don't think these National Polls mean much.

Show me the state by state Polls
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:31 AM
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2. The trends mean something
If Kerry begins to surge in national polls, the states will slowly but surely surge in his favor.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:37 AM
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5. The state polls are even better
A new Ohio poll has Kerry up 2, 48-46, after he trailed in the same poll by 11 after the RNC. The pollster said the numbers are back to where they were after the DNC. A Florida poll out yesterday has Kerry up 1, 50-49. He's also up 6 in Pennsylvania.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:48 AM
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9. It is all about State by State now!
The national poll crap is consolidated and dosn't mean a thing.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:57 AM
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15. Nope
The Electoral College follows the popular vote.... The greater the popular vote margin the greater the Electoral College vote margin...
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:53 AM
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13. Cheering here all by myself at the thoughts of a PA, FL, OH sweep.
:grouphug: to everyone.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:10 AM
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17. Those were SUSA polls, which are Repub. leaning.
I'll be the real numbers are even better.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:46 PM
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19. State polls are going Kerry's way
I like these two sites myself:

www.dalythoughts.com Both Oh and Fl are now toss ups (and arguably should be considered slight advantage for Kerry). He's a Bush supporter, but his analysis usually makes sense.

www.race2004.net This is another good one.

www.electoral-vote.com I'm not a big fan of his methadology (he uses partisan polls), but it's sort of interesting anyways. I like the lay out.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:32 AM
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3. Something is happening
Its almost regime change time. :bounce:
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:54 AM
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14. And you don't know what it is . . .
Do you, Mr. Rove?

RCM
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:35 AM
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4. PROPAGANDA VALUE---and that's what is sooooo important at this
late in the game. You see it being played on CNN with their goddamn Gallup, etc. They want Dems to stay home. So, the more of these "Kerry is coming on" polls puts a butane burner right under the ass of any Dems who might be wandering away, makes Repubs feel the ship is going down, and makes those who are sorta wishy-washy in the first place want to jump on the wagon!!!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:37 AM
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6. Bingo!
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:52 AM
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12. yep
probably more like 10
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:08 AM
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16. Damn right

We do not want to be cocky, or discourageed. Nice and steady wins the race. A little fear is helpful, but the news makes out like Dems should be crying in their beer already.

With national polls showing dead even, that talk will stop, for the time being. The whores will of course go into shill overdirve (they have two songs: "Bush is winning" and "Here's what Bush needs to do to win." They are like hometown sportscasters, unabashedly partisan and assuming their audience is too.

But they also want a tight race - drives interest, eyeballs, and ad revenues, and maybe more importantly makes THEM feel like the kingmakers.

We need to keep our heads down and charge.

RCM
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:45 AM
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7. "Dead Heat" is code for for "Kerry up by 5"
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:46 AM
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8. This will break Meathead Matthews spirits
He will have to report his own poll.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:48 AM
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10. but but but.....
the TV tells me every night that Bush has got this election won already.....at least that is what Tweety and Joe Scraborought tells us every night....that poll cant be right! :-)
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:50 AM
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11. Boy you should hear what my TV tells me
It tells me that Meathead Matthews is a blowhard and Scarborough, well my TV tells me he is not worth thinking about.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:14 AM
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18. Fat Tweety and the Beady-Eyed-Redneck-Banjo-boy are so
enamored with Bush -- they wouldn't know a Kerry surge if it hit them in their sanctimonious, hypocritical guts!
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