Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Anyone see the Wisconsin focus group on CSPAN?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:30 PM
Original message
Anyone see the Wisconsin focus group on CSPAN?
Totally made up of Wisconsin women. It was more balanced than the Missouri focus group from before the debates, but there are still way too many Kool-aid drinkers. Especially the lady who said it wouldn't be worth it to do stem cell research because it would "take too long" to develop cures. That was mind-boggling to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Heh, she should listen to one of her gods, Glenn Beck
"Your ballot is not a lottery ticket!"

Hmm, wonder how long she would have waited for the Polio vaccine. "It's not ready yet? Forget it!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:34 PM
Response to Original message
2. Too long to develop cures?
Longer than what? That's the dumbest statement I've heard from one of my fellow Wisconsinites in some time. Oh, wait, Tommy Tompson just said "there's no crisis, nothing to see here..."

Ohhhhhh Caaaaaaaaaanada....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
3. Man summing up said that no Gore voters going for Bush. but 1 Bush loss
I watched a few of the Kool-Aid drinkers before turning off TV in disgust, but later I caught the roundup of men summarizing results and I felt better when one of them said that none of the Gore voters are switching to Bush this year but one that voted Bush last time is voting for Kerry this time and another might go for Kerry also.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. That just shows that the Kerry campaign is ineffective
A lie unanswered is a lie spread.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. Yes, I saw some of it. Very depressing.
:( The one who killed me was a Bush voter. They were asked, "If your child was held hostage by terroists in his/her school, who would YOU want to be the prez at the time?" That broad, Bush voter, said she would rather have Kerry as prez because if it was HER child she would want a prez who was more level headed and willing to negotiate. She thought JK would be more apt to do that. :grr: It's OK for Bush to kill OTHER people's kids in Iraq, but if it's HER child, she wants JK as prez. Damn, that pissed me off. She is a TRUE MEPUBLICAN.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JUS Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. unbelievable
we have become such a sick, sick country...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
5. I watched it last night and was blown away
by the response to the 'hostage' question. More than midway through the exercise, Peter Hart asked the women who they would want in charge if their child plus ten other children had been taken hostage by terrorists? Suddenly John Kerry got very popular!!!

Even the ringleader of the Bushistas opined that her fearless leader may well get her kid killed and she trusted Kerry to sort out the situation and save her child. I almost fell off my chair. When it came down to their child, the God, Guns and Gays thing wasn't in play. To be fair, some couldn't bring themselves to say "Kerry" so they said Edwards instead, but they didn't say Bush.

The Kerry camp should get this into the stump speech. Kerry can pose the question himself. Who do they really want protecting THEM? When the chips are down close to home, it seems to be Kerry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IIgnoreNobody Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. They will recite the talking points in public, but
will they vote against protecting their children in the privacy of the voting booth?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. They are Repugs, so yes, they will.
They know their child's safety is pretty much assured. The chances of the terrorist scenario are miniscule for them. So, they'll vote wingnut ideology every time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IIgnoreNobody Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. History shows that your blanket statement is wrong.

The assertion that all Republicans always vote Republican is, well, wrong. Laughably wrong, in fact.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:55 PM
Response to Original message
8. I'M SORRY!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 01:05 PM by Vote_Clark_In_WI
We're not ALL that stupid here in Wisconsin!!! :eyes:

I haven't seen this yet - does anyone know if it's going to be replayed? I'll run and check the CSPAN site, but oftentimes they don't have the specific listings until the last minute.

TIA :hi:

edited to add, OK, so maybe we are all stupid! I just turned on CSPAN, to see what was airing, and heard a WI caller on the replay of Washington Journal. She actually said that she doesn't think that we should vote for Kerry because 'January will be really, really busy, and it would take too much time if people had to move into new offices and try to get all organized and everything...' :crazy: WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOUR pRESIDENT SPENDS THE MAJORITY OF HIS TIME ON VACATION, YOU DUMB FUCK!!!x(

edited again - the video is available to watch at CSPAN if you have a decent connection...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. It's depressing to see how many are so uniformed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. not to mention,
Uninformed! :D :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Good luck! The C-SPAN website it awful when
it comes to schedules. I can never figure it out. It's well worth a look, if you can find it again and stay tuned for the reporters reactions...they go to a break and come back after about 5 minutes.

You'll be pleased to find a couple of solid Kerry supporters who, surprise, surprise, have cornered the market on brains compared to their repug counterparts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. I'm sure it will repeat. I saw some of it again this morning.
The bad thing about C-SPAN is you never know when they will repeat things. I'm SURE it will be on sometime today. If I see it come on I'll post a thread. :hi:

Vote_Clark, Whatever happened with the power outage investigation? Do you know?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
13. I saw that and was astonished at how unrepresentative of
American women it was. There was one black woman, and a whole slew of professional and married to professionals white women. Sometimes I think these polls and focus groups only sample middle and upper middle class people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
15. this group was much more informed than the one in the primaries
did anyone see that, C-span showed a focus group of twelve democrats, in late summer 2003, most of whom could not recognize a SINGLE candidate from their pictures. Two or three recognized Sharpton and/or Lieberman, but that was it.

In this Wisconsin group, I was not at all surprised by the two or three mindless Bush supporters, and I was blown away by some of the Kerry supporters. Maria and Tricia in particular.

And a really good sign was the pro-choice nursing student who voted for Bush in 2000, but now is voting for Kerry. Asked why she voted for Bush last time, she said she thinks she was "hoaxed." :toast:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:13 PM
Response to Original message
17. What can you expect with a..........
president who still thinks the earth is flat?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
18. Re-airing on CSPAN2
at 3:45pm eastern time today (Tuesday)

I guess I'll have to watch it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:44 PM
Response to Original message
19. Kerry should pick it up...

what about a commercial asking the same question: if YOUR child was in danger, who would you trust?

Anything that people can relate to in a practical way rather than abstract ideology will play in Kerry's favor...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC