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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:09 PM
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Here's an explanation of why Bush was tossed from the National Guard
If you're still interested in this issue, it's worth going to the site and reading.

http://www.glcq.com/pti_961.htm

THE MYSTERY OF “PTI 961” SOLVED

New information with regard to the meaning of a special code which appears on George W. Bush’s Air National Guard discharge papers indicates that he was being thrown out of the Air National Guard for failing “to possess the required military qualifications for his grade or specialty, or does not meet the mental, moral, professional or physical standards of the Air Force.” In other words, despite the fact that Bush had an unfulfilled six year Military Service Obligation, he was discharged from the Air National Guard not because he moved to Boston, but because he failed to meet his obligation to maintain his qualifications as an F102 pilot.

The special code is “PTI 961”, and is found<1> in the “Reason and Authority for Discharge” section of Bush’s NGB-22, his “Report of Separation and Record of Service in the Air National Guard of Texas and as a Reserve of the Air Force.”

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No actual “reason for discharge” is cited in this section. However, the reference to “ANGR 36-05 ” provides us with enough information to determine that Bush was being thrown off for failure to fulfill his requirements.

“PTI” stands for “Personnel Transaction Identifier”, a code which “identifies the controlled personnel management action being accomplished the personnel data system.”<2> And although the particular meaning of “PTI 961” remains unknown, all “900” series PTIs mean that someone is no longer considered part of “Air Force strength.”<3>

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:14 PM
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1. You should send this out to Drudge and the Spinner's media list
if it is reliable info

I have forwarded to some of my media contacts
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:16 PM
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6. Unfortunately the whole Rather/CBS took the steam out of the issue
Yet again, Bush squirms out of another jam.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:14 PM
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2. There's got to be some Retired AF Officer who knows exactly what 961 means
What's funny to me is that between Hughes, Rove, and a few other people just uttering a few sentences about Bush's true record in the TANG would sink him in a minute.


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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:15 PM
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3. Can anyone believe that people would vote for this man over Kerry?
What is wrong with Americans?
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:16 PM
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4. democrats.com is offering $1000 reward for info on PTI 961
http://democrats.com/

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Bush was UNFIT FOR SERVICE
Paul Lukasiak writes, "New information with regard to the meaning of a special code which appears on George W. Bush's Air National Guard discharge papers indicates that he was being thrown out of the Air National Guard for failing 'to possess the required military qualifications for his grade or specialty, or does not meet the mental, moral, professional or physical standards of the Air Force.' In other words, despite the fact that Bush had an unfulfilled six year Military Service Obligation, he was discharged from the Air National Guard not because he moved to Boston, but because he failed to meet his obligation to maintain his qualifications as an F102 pilot. " To further this investigation, Democrats.com is offering a $1,000 Reward to anyone who can authoritatively document the meaning of PTI 961 (http://tinyurl.com/4ezsz).
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:16 PM
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5. Everyone talks about illegal substances....
I think I lean towards the fear of flying that;s been mentioned - whether or not it's true that he had an aircraft accident.
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DemOperative Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:19 PM
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7. Walt Starr
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 02:19 PM by DemOperative
Is the guy to talk to; he has a handle on this type of research.
he did all that great work @DU on the ribbon controversy.
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