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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:29 PM
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Even CNN is being forced to choke on the truth now.
What's that about big leads in the Gallup polls yesterday?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/15/electoral.map...


"For now, at least, the trend appears to be moving Kerry's way.

Bush, who held a commanding edge coming out of his convention last month, is now clinging to statistically insignificant leads in the battleground states of Wisconsin, Colorado, Iowa and Florida, which hold a total of 53 electoral votes. (Even if he doesn't carry Colorado, Kerry's current electoral tally could gain four of that state's nine electoral votes. Voters there are considering a ballot initiative that would distribute their electoral votes based on the popular vote.)

Kerry, who has struggled for weeks in some of his party's traditional strongholds, now appears to have solidified his standing. New polling shows the only so-called "blue" states where Kerry's lead is less than five points are Michigan and Pennsylvania, which hold a total of 38 electoral votes."

There's more.......
:beer:
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:31 PM
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1. I SWEAR...having DU, Mediamatters, atrios, dailykos, AirAmerica
is really starting to have an effect as watchdog on these George Bush whores. I love it.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:31 PM
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2. It's great, isn't it?
:hi:
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:34 PM
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5. Gimmee five baby !
:hi:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:33 PM
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4. We just gotta get it thru our thick heads that
WE GOT THE POWAH!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:07 PM
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18. My God, it's the '60's all over again...I love it!
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:48 PM
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12. gotta keep workin those refs, baby!
It IS having an effect. Ok, not so much on CNN - this one is an exception - but I think I'm seeing an effect in the NYT, WAPO, MSNBC (sometimes) CBS, ABC...

Either that, or, the media honchos have decided a well-off middle class is just better for business. Dunno, your call.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:59 PM
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14. And it's about time, too!
Not to mention JUST in time! :toast:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:33 PM
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3. Bush is not ahead in Florida
or Wisconsin or Iowa. They're basically tied but trending Kerry.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:43 PM
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9. same with Nevada and New Mexico

and the 1 EV claimed for Bush out of Maine is also wrong.

CNN is sucking up to their Southern/Midwestern businessfolk core audience's hopes and delusions. Saint George of Midland can't possibly lose, except that he will.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:11 PM
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19. Doesn't need to be ahead
although I have to admit that in Wisconsin it would be nice. Just has to be tied (bad for an incumbent) with a good 5-7% still undecided.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:35 PM
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6. I voted NO on 36 today in CO
Which affects whether or not to split the electoral votes.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:43 PM
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10. Is a no vote for the split or against it
I think I am in favor of the electoral votes going to the popular vote. I mean that if more people in a certain district vote one way then their representative electoral vote should also go that way instead of all or nothing like it is now. What is your reasoning for your vote if you don't mind?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:47 PM
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11. (slaps forehead). nt
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:03 PM
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16. I haven't really analyzed this issue in depth
But it would seem to me that we would want that thing to pass.

Bush will probably take CO. The Yes vote on the proposition would at least split the EVs.

On a basic democratic argument, wouldn't it be better to split all EVs proportionately?

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:11 PM
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20. Bush is losing CO
Kerry is rapidly gaining in here - making another campaign stop this weekend. Smart move - that guy - and appealing to the Southern side of Colorado.
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endnote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:37 PM
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7. Fucking Charlie Rose last night said that Bush has a consistent
lead...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:01 PM
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15. charlie rose is the BIGGEST
TOOL! Let's remind him how dumbs he looks when Kerry wins!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:39 PM
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8. "For now, at least,"
That's quite a JOURNALISTIC way to write an F'ing story.

I swear CNN is so brow beat by the "librul media" they have to tilt everything to the right.
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 04:55 PM
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13. They just got one problem. lol
Kerry's gains in Ohio and New Hampshire -- both traditionally Republican states that Al Gore narrowly lost in 2000 -- mark the first time the senator has taken a state out of Bush's column since CNN's political unit started conducting a weekly survey of the electoral map in late July. Gore lost Ohio after pulling out of the state five weeks before Election Day.

While he called the Ohio race a "flat-footed tie," Howard Wilkinson, a veteran political reporter with the Cincinnati Enquirer, said signs indicate momentum for Kerry. "I'm almost ready to go blue," Wilkinson said, citing Democratic advantages in new voter registration efforts and widespread organization among African-American voters in cities like Cincinnati and Cleveland.
:beer:
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 05:05 PM
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17. Clue #457 That The GOP Is In Denial...
"Republicans strongly dispute that they're falling behind in Ohio, a state no Republican has ever lost and gone on to win the White House.

"You have to trust the general trend, which has us doing better in Ohio," said Matt Dowd, a top Bush-Cheney strategist. "They just pulled out of West Virginia with their advertising, and they've now stopped their trips. If they were winning in Ohio, then they wouldn't be pulling out of West Virginia. It's an area of the country that's very similar."


What?!

Lemme get this straight: Kerry can't be winning in Ohio because he's stopped campaigning in ANOTHER FRIGGIN' STATE?!?! Yeah, that makes sense... :eyes:

But then these are the same people who would have us believe that with general anti-Bush sentiment; an energized Democratic base; increased voter registration; the news tanking on Bush (Iraq gone bad, Dow gone south, oil prices in the stratosphere, etc.); and at least two obvious Kerry ass-kickings of Bush in the debates that Bush's support is going UP! In the words of Denzel Washington in "Training Day": "whatever the fuck ever..." :crazy:

...and if I see one more bogus quote from another "unnamed source" in the Kerry campaign I'm gonna fuckin' SCREAM! Try THIS BS on for size from the same article:

"One key state that is trending Bush's way, however, is Missouri, which Kerry aides acknowledge is no longer a top target. "Well, let me put it this way," one senior Democratic strategist said this week. "We've taken it out of our list" of battleground states."

Why on earth would Team Kerry pull out of a state that most polls show as a dead heat -- especially when it's worth 11 ELECTORAL VOTES??? You have to get to 270 SOMEHOW....!!!

I'm so sick of having my intelligence insulted by these media whore cretins...!!!

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:24 PM
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21. eff them...I hope Kerry can restore media integrity....
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:38 PM
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22. This article is written so slanted to the right it looks like italics!
I'm disgusted with CNN these days. They have been just TOO obvious.
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Harlan James Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:42 PM
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23. "The trend is moving Kerry's way..."
Wow. Even CNN knows yesterday's Gallup Poll was for shit.
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