We Need A Great Turnout Among People Of Color....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'd like to see internals for race....


In the CBS poll the Chimp was getting 17% of the African American vote....This is unacceptable....


The last Puke to get such a high amount of African Americans was Richard Nixon in 1960....*

Unacceptable...

Work needs to be done...

The African American vote is what gave Al Gore his pop vote majority..


P.S. Don't tell me about Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice....


* I'm doing this from memory...

[PretzelWarrior]

1. I hear George Hamilton will be voting.

oh...you meant people of COLOR. gotcha.

[knowbody0]

2. the creator created four races

white black yellow and red

[troubleinwinter]

9. Excuse me?

Where did you get this information? I have never seen people of any of those colors.

[knowbody0]

11. four colors - four directions

white - Caucasian
yellow - Asian
red - Indian
black - African

no offense, just that we are all colored

[troubleinwinter]

13. I was asking where you got this information.

"four races - four directions"

[naufragus]

14. what about us BROWN people?

[Stuckinthebush]

23. No she didn't

We just named people that.

By the way, where did we ever get red from? Native Americans aren't red.

[tishaLA]

3. I don't believe 17% of African Americans are going with george

maybe I'm foolish, but I think it's going to be maybe 12%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. 12% Is Too High...

Chimpy got 8% or 9% in 00...

[Spinzonner]

5. I dont think that having only albinos voting

would produce much of a turnout so your scenario is essentially inevitable

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. This Is Serious.... (nt)

[PretzelWarrior]

7. and yet funny.

:P

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Find Zero Humor In This Race...

I see it as a manichean struggle...

That simple...

[Spinzonner]

10. You need to leave room for a little irony

or you'll go crazy.

And then you wont be of any use to anyone.

[lancdem]

12. What do other polls show?

Maybe it's Bush's support of the amendment banning gay marriage. CatWoman alluded to that. Kerry can't do anything about those voters, but I'm sure his campaign is planning a strong GOTV effort among African Americans. Jesse Jackson is now involved with the Kerry campaign. And getting Clinton back would help a lot, I'm sure.

[Francine Frensky]

15. If Kerry loses, it is for 2 reasons: blacks and hispanics

is Kerry doing enough for the black voters? Say what you will about Gore's campaign manager, the black lady (whose name escapes me), who maybe doesn't present herself as well as some of the slicker campaign operatives we've had, but I believe she turned out the black vote VERY WELL.

The other problem area might be hispanics, as I understand four years ago the repubs began making a big inroads into the hispanic community, with an emphasis on "values" they share with repubs... and I really wonder if that will end up being an underreported part of the election.

[Tansy_Gold]

16. If Kerry loses, it is for ONE REASON ---

Not enough PEOPLE voted for him.

I personally think it is RACIST to suggest that any particular group has a higher responsibility to vote for a candidate than any other group. I don't give a flying fuck if the group is black, white, purple, striped, gay, straight, wiggly, inside-out, christian, muslim, pagan, republican, democrat, theocrat, technocrat, or anything else.

Blame Diebold and the rigged machines? Well, okay, maybe, but if there are enough people voting for Kerry, and enough of them are outraged by a stolen election. . . . . . . . . and ONE FUCKING SENATOR STANDS UP. . . . . ..

[Awsi Dooger]

17. Donna Brazille

n/t

[realcountrymusic]

18. Two Words

BILL CLINTON

RCM

[Philostopher]

19. I don't recall the actual percentage of African American voters ...

But the internals on the University of Cincinnati poll that was posted earlier today were 95% Kerry, 3% Bush and 2% undecided. I believe the sample was between 750 and 800 total voters (including all subsectors, I mean) selected via zip code.

That's the AA internals on one poll in one swing state -- for what it's worth. Less than 5% of Ohio is Hispanic; if Washington Monthly can be trusted, fewer than 3% of Ohioans are Hispanic. I don't remember if there was an 'other' category on the poll, or what it looked like.

[Awsi Dooger]

20. Nader said something very astute the other day

"Instead of attacking me, or trying to keep me off ballots, the Democrats should be trying to register the 9 million unregistered blacks in the swing states, 90% of whom would vote Democratic."

I live in Las Vegas. The other night I was in a grocery store when maybe six 25ish black guys came in, one of them chanting "four more years, four more years..." I was shocked.

"Don't let me hear that shit. You guys look smarter than that," I said. Two or three of them laughed and said they were just repeating something they heard on the radio. I asked if they were voting for Bush. "Fuck no." But when I asked if they were voting for Kerry, only one of them claimed he was registered and he isn't planning to vote.

Keep in mind this is in a swing state with a huge registration drive. I have no idea why we don't prioritize registering and energizing black voters first and foremost. The math is simple and revealing: a 100 person block of black voters figures to go 90-10, or close, to Kerry for a net +80. Compare that to a 60-40 group, a huge percentage, but one that would require 400 voters to equal the same +80 margin, 240-160.

I think Kerry will lose 2-3% of Gore's numbers among blacks. It has been in my Excel 2004 election model for three years. Simply a common sense projection, that an incumbent president with non-atrocious approval and likeability will sway a few percent based on familiarity alone.

[roseBudd]

22. I'm from one of those swing states and Nader does not know what

he is talking about. African Americans are regsitered in the swing states. Are dems going out of their way to register blacks in impossibly red states? Probably not. But we do have to prioritize.

The state is Ohio and we got new voters regsitered.

[Awsi Dooger]

25. I know everyone has been doing a great job with registration

But I assume Nader did not make up that number. It might have been an old figure that does not take into account this year's new registers.

My only input: a 90-10 block is so unusual and so vital it should be priority one and engaged fulltime, years in advance. A Republican friend of mine said if they had a 90-10 block that accounted for about 12%, or whatever, of the population, he guaranteed it would be priority 1 thru 10 to get them to the polls en masse.

[roseBudd]

26. I agree and that is why I have focused solely on GOTV in the inner city

which where I live is predominantly African Americans. I am white but feel both comfortable and safe as I conduct my GOTV activities in the inner city. There is an unrealistic fear of crime among a lot of white people. They only time I felt unsafe was when I encountered a loose rottweiler who would not let me walk to my car.

We do have too many white people canvassing white people and just assuming the NAACP and Urban League has everything under control in the black community. I am focusing on the young male street demographic with a catchy humorous, rude but true ditty called GWB is a PAB.

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[nostamj]

21. we NEED a great TURNOUT. period.

that includes RED states where it seems hopeless.

that includes BLUE states where it seem inevitable.

and, of course, it include 'swing' state were there is the slimmest sliver of hope for a win.

doing less will deny Kerry the MANDATE, if not LANDSLIDE, he deserves.

[secular_warrior]

24. unfortunately, the Dem coalition is at it's most fragile point

it's been in years. The fight to get Bush out simply obscures this fact. Some of the divisions:

Gay rights: Liberals (who are mostly white) support gay rights, while most minorities are deeply opposed. Moderates tend to be on the fence.

Iraq War: Liberals and moderates feel deeply passionate about the war, but most minorities feel there is too much focus on foreign policy and should be more emphasis on domestic issues.

Sadly, I see a time when conservative minorities go to the Republican just as conservative Jews and Catholics did before them. That is all part of the irony of the Democratic Party - we help people move up in society to the point where those same people come to oppose the very same movements responsible for their higher/better societal status.

In 30 years I wouldn't be surprised to see gays denouncing liberalism.

[JI7]

27. the gay marriage issue is being used to divide

right wingers are using the gay marriage issue to keep some religious minorities from voting for kerry. most minorities, especially black voters who are voting for bush give opposition to gay marriage as their reason. hopefully most of these people live in solid red states like alabama. this may also be why kerry is going more to churches himself. and of course jesse jackson is doing the same. from listening to jackson it seems he fully understands how this issue is being used to divide the democratic party.

sadly this is the same thing many whites have been doing for years now. they vote against their own interests especially in financial matters because of social issues. most who are voting admit it's not in their financial interest to vote for bush, but it comes down to beliefs for them.