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Nerdling Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:55 PM
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WHEN do we know?
Being a brit and due to time zone constraints I'd like to know when Kerry is elected... Stay with me here...

I mean, first of all you have the poll closures which is all done by 11pm EST right? All the polls are done and counting the votes takes a while but we're going to be hit with the "exit polls" and networks calling it when they get tired of sitting around all night. I ask you... just when do we know? When is the official result out and its done and dusted so I can go to bed. Whom do I trust?

I'd rather not sit around for hours thinking... Did Kerry win... but Bush hasn't conceded yet... bah.

I have the choice of SkyNews (boo!) BBC News, MSNBC, CNN and Faux News and we'll probably get a special C-SPAN feed for the night on the BBC Parliament channel. I'm going to sit and watch all of these and report in on DU.

P.s. This is my first thread :)
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:58 PM
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1. Hi and welcome
I think the networks will be very careful not to use exit polls to call states one way or the other this time. (The exit polls may actually be more accurate than the voting processes used, which happened in Florida last time, but oh well.)

With states so close, it could take until morning, but I hope not.

Whichever side doesn't "win" by first count will probably contest (especially if it's the GOP that loses) citing that the voting process wasn't fair or accurate.



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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:56 PM
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17. Lots of people will be doing absentee voting.
There are no exit polls for absentee voters.
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:59 PM
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2. Welcome!
:-) I'm guessing we should know by 10 eastern. Most of the swing states are either eastern or central.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:01 PM
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3. If you want to go to bed early.
Just watch Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. When Kerry takes two out of three, it's over. (Have an eye on Virginia and North Carolina, too. If Kerry takes both of those then Bush is in for a real beating.)
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exsoccermom Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:02 PM
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4. Since there are five hours difference between the UK
and Eastern Standard Time, you may want to just go to bed early and get up early. Even if it's called by 10 PM, that's still 3 AM for you. If you want, leave your number and one of us will give you a call.;)
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missouri dem Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:03 PM
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5. When Ohio and Pennsylvania go blue you can chalk it up.
Say 10 - 11 oclock central time.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:52 PM
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13. Basically.
I think if we get Ohio, we'll easily get Iowa and NM, which is what we'd need at that point.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:03 PM
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6. My guess: it will be
in the middle of the night (state side) on the 3rd. I can't see it being called very early.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:04 PM
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7. Might know by Boxing Day
But probably not until 12th Night. If then.

I think it'll be contested.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:06 PM
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8. I think you'll get a good idea of where the election is heading early.
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 09:07 PM by Sean Reynolds
I think the networks will not act too quickly to call a state (like they did in 2000), however you'll probably get a good idea of where the election is heading early on in the night.

Typically eastern states will be projected before western states. Some MAJOR swing states are located in the east and I think that'll set the trend for the night. If Kerry/Bush grab a few eastern swing states, you'll probably get a winner before California closes its polls.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:11 PM
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9. Here's my first big clue for the night:
If Kerry flips New Hampshire into our column, we'll know that it will NOT be a Bush blowout. Winning New Hampshire (the most conservative New England state) signals that Kerry is already running better than Gore did.

The margin might tell us something as well. If Nader barely registers a blip, that probably portends a national trend of Nader's already-weak support collapsing into Kerry's column. Now, if Kerry somehow wins NH by more than 6 or 7%, I'd say it's time for Bush to break-out the Maalox.

That's my theory. It might be wrong.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:53 PM
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14. Yeah, I think NH is the canary state. nt
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djack23 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:45 PM
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15. Nice Theory

I think it will be pretty clear by 9:30 ET that Kerry will win.
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Nerdling Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:17 PM
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10. :D
:D Firstly, Thanks for the messages and offers.

I'm training to be a journalist so I'm going to be sitting watching ALL NIGHT LONG and even planning on moving the PC down to the big screen TV so i can DUwhore and watch the talking heads all night long. I will NOT be asleep until I know who won the race. Errr... or rather... how big a margin Kerry won by.

Sadly CBS will be unavailable. I'm going to try and get some people to record the coverage and upload it for me purely for the Ratherisms. :D

I'll be watching, as will my friends. Who you choose is going to affect our lives and we eagerly await a Kerry win.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:32 PM
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11. JMHO, but Im figurin' on a long one - between 1-2am EST
hope Im dead wrong, Ill be so wired and so drunk by then, there will be a striking resemblance between me and Lloyd Bridges in AIRPLANE after he sniffs the glue..
:kick:
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:50 PM
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12. None of the major networks will announce results before
the polls close in the West (pacific standard time) You'll get some hints on DU and the tone of the coverage before that. At 8, pst, we'll have a litany of states and who won. If it's a great night, we'll get Florida, NH, NJ, Maine....maybe NC and Virginia. If we get those, then we basically win the election. We'll all wait for Ohio (maybe an hour of so later). If the election is close, none of us will know until the morning. I usually go to bed and wake up very early to find the results. This year I will wait up all night.
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:07 PM
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18. I think Maine will definitely go for Kerry..
The state went to Gore in 2000. I have a suspicion that New Hampshire will also go to Kerry.

Florida seems like a real toss up again. I suspect there definitely will be fraud since the governor is the president's brother. It's so evil. Has any other presidential candidate in the history of this country had the unfair advantage of having a family member governor of a highly populated state?
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:53 PM
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16. When will you know?
Right now, my British friend. Kerry has already won; the voting is just to confirm what we already know.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:14 PM
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19. Is British TV Covering the Results continually?
Or are they just offering periodic updates? I assume they wouldn't have a newsdesk actually following the election results like on US Tv or during a British election - am I wrong?
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:19 PM
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20. Welcome to DU
but this thread is making me nervous. Suddenly it seems very real and very soon!!! I have to work at the polls till at least 9pm central time, so if I'm home by 9:30 you guys had all better have great news waiting for me! I'll be away from DU, tv and radio all day (starting my day working at the polls at 6:40am)...

and while you're at it, would you have a great big vodka/tonic waiting for me, too? :toast:
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