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Wed Oct-20-04 12:02 PM
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Economist: K 48, B46, N1 (Oct 18 - 20) |
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Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:10 PM by swag
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/YouGovR.pdfon edit, corrected this line: Kerry +1, Bush +1 since last week. Enjoy the poll.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:03 PM
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1. Bahh! That Liberal Economist Poll Can't Be Trusted! |
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Eat shit and die Gallup.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:04 PM
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2. Isn't Bush also +1 since last week? |
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:11 PM
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6. Thanks for the correction. Have edited original. |
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I guess I was just so excited to see Bush still bumping his head on 46.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:05 PM
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3. Watch this sink like a stone. |
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Nobody likes good news, it seems.
But yeah, Kerry is all over this Bush fool. To sound Rumsfeld-esque: "Am I encouraged? You bet I am? Does this mean the race is over? No. There are still some unknown unknowns out there that cannot be known because we don't know them, and we unknowingly blunder into these unknowns without knowing what we know and what we don't know. I don't know where I parked my car...."
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:09 PM
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:05 PM
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4. And it's 49-46 if leaners are included |
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BTW, both Kerry and Bush gained a point since the last poll. However, Kerry's 48 percent is his highest in this poll since mid-August.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:12 PM
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7. Kerry deserves a cup of good coffee. |
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:14 PM
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:15 PM
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9. I'm happy when any of these polls have Kerry hanging in there |
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either by leading or tied or just a point down, etc. It means Bush is not being that effective in tarnishing him. I throw out stupid polls like Gallup that is now getting to the point of being a joke. NOW, we just have to man the voting places with lawyers to keep these filthy, unethical jackals from striking.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:22 PM
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, this is good news. Kick for the sunshine from behind the fading clouds, and for a great laugh from rockymountaindem.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:37 PM
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11. The best part of that |
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is that Bush won't get any more than 46 percent. Incumbents never poll higher than their last poll number.
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:51 PM
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12. The Size If The Sample, And Reputation Of The Journal |
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Are excellent reasons to give this reading of the tea leaves some weight....
"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:53 PM
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13. Can't remember who said it, but somebody one said of the Economist, |
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"It's like Time magazine, but for adults."
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Wed Oct-20-04 12:54 PM
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14. My Goodness! I Just Noticed The Sample Size! |
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And the MOE!!! Indeed sir!
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Wed Oct-20-04 01:42 PM
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They are to the right in their views, but honest, and value very much their reputation as a journal of record....
"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Wed Oct-20-04 02:38 PM
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20. Good or bad, I believe The Economist more than |
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just about any news source I can think of. Their economic analysis needs to be read with an understanding of their beliefs, but I've never seen them consciously twist data to say something it doesn't.
Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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Wed Oct-20-04 03:08 PM
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It is vanishingly rare nowadays, but it is possible to be both honest and rightist....
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Wed Oct-20-04 01:05 PM
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15. i always watch for economist polls/ thank you |
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Wed Oct-20-04 02:33 PM
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19. The polling company are suberb as well |
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They have a well earned reputation for accuracy. It is just a shame that they are not doing state polls.
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Wed Oct-20-04 01:24 PM
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16. Look at those "disapproval" numbers on Bush!! |
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This is the best thing yet! I know there's work to still be done, but this election is ours to win!!!
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Wed Oct-20-04 02:31 PM
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I think this is a good one, large sample size sounds more reliable.
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Wed Oct-20-04 02:46 PM
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Very serious -meaning honest- source, and huge sample. It's implicit in their description that their likely voter model is: registered to vote and absolute certainty of voting. So this poll, unlike others, takes into account all the newly registered voters... and unlike the clowns at Gallup they haven't oversampled repugs as crazy.
Bottom line: serious polls done with the right methodology give Kerry a slight advantage or a tie.
Also keep in mind that according to all polls Kerry is doing much better in battleground states than in all of the nation. So this really means Kerry has a substantial, greater than 2%, lead where it matters.
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