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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:09 PM
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Camille Paglia endorses Kerry
I used to like her as a maverick, hated her for the last 4 years, now looks like she's seen the light

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20041020/2004-10-20T151709Z_01_L20123025_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-CAMPAIGN-KERRY-VATICAN-DC.html


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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:11 PM
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1. she's still alive?
culturally irrelevant.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:12 PM
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2. Wrong link?
That link goes to
Vatican Says Anti-Kerry Lawyer Hoodwinked Them
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:44 PM
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27. sorry... CORRECTED LINK HERE
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NDFan Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:13 PM
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3. The above link
Is not about Paglia's endorsement. ;(
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:14 PM
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4. your link takes us to a story about the Vatican
Has Paglia entered the church? She always reminded me a nasty old nun.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:15 PM
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5. Well, that seals the deal...
:::snort:::
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Trahurn Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:16 PM
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6. Wrong Link
You link showed the story of Bush hoodwinking the vatican. Was not what I was hoping to find.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:16 PM
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7. who needs her ?
We need her endorsement about as much as we need Kaddafi's. If she really likes Kerry, maybe she should crawl back under her rock.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:23 PM
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13. My thoughts exactly.

Kind of like Iran endorsing Bush today. (Unless
that was a joke I missed.)
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:16 PM
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8. Gotta love Paglia
she has a way of pissing everybody off.
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:17 PM
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9. Ugh. One I could do without.

She's the Ann Coulter of pseudo-intellectual feminism. She once called a friend of mine a "middle class bitch" when she asked CP a moderately tough question at a public lecture.

Camille Paglia only endorses herself. If she said anything nice about Kerry, it was only to see her own now nearly forgotten name back in the headlines. Hateful person.

RCM
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:19 PM
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10. Tell us how you really feel, Realcountrymusic. :)
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:32 PM
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14. You don't want to know

I think Paglia is a total intellectual poseur, of the sort who could only have come to prominence in the 1990s. She is so washed up. I haven't even thought about her in a couple of years. The fact is that she is stupid, but shrewd. Somewhat like Bush, actually.

RCM
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:38 PM
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20. Impossible...
"The fact is that she is stupid, but shrewd."..... impossible. Think about the meaning of the word shrewd. Camille probably is shrewd, therefore she cannot be stupid....although she still may be irrelevant.
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:43 PM
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21. Oh, I think there's a difference

"Shrewd" implies a gut-level intelligence about how to manipulate situations to one's advantage. By "stupid," I mean lacking intellectual breadth or depth, unable to see beyond her own personal gain, etc. Not exactly synonyms, really (in my book).

GWB, for example, shrewdly surrounds himself with people who are not stupid. But he is stupid.

RCM
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:20 PM
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11. she's
insane
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:21 PM
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12. I Cannot Believe She Didn't Endorse Nader
What was she thinking?
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:35 PM
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15. no shit, man I really find that hard to believe. you sure it's not a
trick
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guntherconcept Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:39 PM
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16. Kerry sews up the misogynistic feminist vote!
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:52 PM
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17. If she really wanted to help Kerry, she'd endorse Bush instead
NT
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:25 PM
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18. Real link is here
http://www.reason.com/0411/fe.dc.whos.shtml

Among a bunch of snobs largely voting for 1)Nobody 2)anybody but...
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slappypan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:32 PM
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19. sheesh ... that article
it's like a roll-call of pompous asses
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:56 PM
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22. Molly Ivins on Camille Paglia (have to post this everytime her name comes
up)From _Mother Jones_, September/October 1991, pp 8-10
(Italics are indicated like _this_.)

Impolitic, by Molly Ivins.

I Am the Cosmos

Austin, Texas --- ``So write about Camille Paglia,'' suggested the
editor. Like any normal person, I replied, ``And who the hell might
she be?''

Big cheese in New York intellectual circles. The latest rage. Hot
stuff. Controversial.

But I'm not good on New York intellectual controversies, I explained.
Could never bring myself to give a rat's ass about Jerzy Kosinski.
Never read Andy Warhol's diaries. Can never remember the name of the
editor of this _New Whatsit_, the neo-con critical rag. I'm a no-hoper
on this stuff, practically a professional provincial.

Read Paglia, says he, you'll have an opinion. So I did; and I do.

Christ! Get this woman a Valium!

<snip>

One of her latest efforts at playing enfant terrible in intellectual
circles was a peppy essay for _Newsday_, claiming that either there is
no such thing as date rape or, if there is, it's women's fault because
we dress so provocatively. Thanks, Camille, I've got some Texas
fraternity boys I want you to meet.

There is one area in which I think Paglia and I would agree that
politically correct feminism has produced a noticeable inequity.
Nowadays, when a woman behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable
fashion, we say, ``Poor dear, it's probably PMS.'' Whereas, if a man
behaves in a hysterical and disagreeable fashion, we say, ``What an
asshole.'' Let me leap to correct this unfairness by saying of Paglia,
Sheesh, what an asshole.
http://bush.cs.tamu.edu/~erich/misc/ivins_on_paglia

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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:41 PM
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24. terrific paglia column
I love Ivins! thanks
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:44 PM
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26. Probably her funniest column ever
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:44 PM
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25. Molly smacks her down! Love it
I :loveya: Molly.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:07 PM
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29. LOL!
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:43 PM
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30. I love 'em both
that was great
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:56 PM
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23. deleted dupe post
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 03:00 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:47 PM
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28. Well, that means he's nailed the self-promoting, pop culture-obsessed...
pseudo intellectual vote
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