MSNBC now distorting what Robertson said Bush said...

[Guaranteed]

Reporter just said that Robertson said that BUSH said that, "No, we're not going to have a LOT of casualties."

Funny- I could have sworn that Robertson said that Bush said that we're not going to have ANY casualties.

[movonne]

1. Reporting is really bad, when we do better at it than them!

[nikatnyte]

2. A bit softer, bit still damning

Does Shrub consider 1100+ casualties "not a lot"?

[Anakin Skywalker]

7. The creepers' perspective

LOL The freepers actually compare iraq's casualties to the war in vietnam and saying that this 1100+ is very little. They are repugnant people who have no empathy for the sufferings of individuals. There is just no excuse for this many American deaths over a commander in chief's delusion of a world democracy.

[leftofthedial]

14. this far into Viet Nam,

casualties were far lower.

Of course, we had much lower troop strength too.

But then, that's like justifying Gitmo by comparing it to Auschwitz.

[librechik]

20. well, they ought to enlist then--George W Jesus is giving all soldiers

a get out of Bagdad alive promise! Well, maybe a FEW will die...

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. They are repugnant people

who obviously have not suffered the lost of a loved one due to their fearless leader's lie. And welcome to DU! :hi:

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. Probably it wouldn't matter how many troops die as far as the chimp

is concerned. Didn't his daddy refer to troops as cannon fodder? Has the chimp attended even one soldier's funeral? The man ( and I use the term loosely) has no compassion and no heart and no soul! While Kerry volunteered to go to Viet Nam even though he wanted no part of the war, but thought it was his duty to defend his Country, the chimp two weeks before he would be drafted got a sweet deal into the TANG. He couldn't even handle that. I doubt the chimp even cares about causalities.

[leftofthedial]

15. cannon fodder units

they don't care about us. they want our money, our blood and our unquestioning obedience. Period.

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. Yes

I remember reading that Prescott Bush told his offspring to have great disdain for the working class. How sad that, that is the chimp's base and that they think the rich elitist chimp really give a rat's ass about them, when clearly everything he does demonstrates the exact opposite!

[Pirate Smile]

3. E-mail them that they are wrong and they should quote it directly instead

of trying to help the President out by altering the statement.

[Benhurst]

4. Our so-called "free" press! What a joke. Robertson's comments

are on tape. What liars! :argh:

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. Here's exactly what Robertson said

Thanks to the internets, these liars can't get away with their bullshit anymore.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/19/pzn.01.html


Aired October 19, 2004 - 20:00 ET


ZAHN: He's been posed repeatedly in debates, what mistakes have you made? He's been asked that on the campaign trail and he hasn't come up with any.

ROBERTSON: I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf War started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life.

You remember, Mark Twain said, he looks like a contended Christian with four aces. He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.

Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties. Well, I said, it's the way it's going to be. And so, it was messy. The lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy. And before that, I had deep, in my spirit, I had deep misgivings about going into Iraq.

ZAHN: You just told me...

ROBERTSON: Yes. Yes.

ZAHN: As I asked you that question that you wished the president had admitted to the American public he's made these mistakes.

ROBERTSON: Well, sure.

ZAHN: Why don't you think he has?

ROBERTSON: I don't know this politics game. You can never say you're wrong, because the opposition grabs on it. And, you see, he admitted he screwed up. And so I don't know. But...

ZAHN: But, as someone who has run for president, you know this game better than just about anybody.

ROBERTSON: Oh, yes.

ZAHN: When you felt that you had the lord telling you that this was going to be a very bad thing to go into Iraq and you warned the president about it, he seemed to be dismissive.

ROBERTSON: Well, I warned him about casualties.

ZAHN: Of the casualties.

Where do you think that came from? Do you think he got bad advice? Do you think he was ignoring some of the advice he had gotten? What is it?

ROBERTSON: I just think he was so sure that this man was a tyrant, he was evil and he needed to be taken out. I mean, he just felt it.

Of course, he had advisers, the so-called neocons, around him that said, Mr. President, go get him, and we will liberate these oppressed people.

ZAHN: There are a lot of neoconservatives...

ROBERTSON: Yes.

[Lex]

11. "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties."

That's the quote that Robertson said Bush used.

[shraby]

22. Can somebody get a screen capture on the transcript

before it disappears.

[Tansy_Gold]

25. Don't shoot the messenger, but

Robertson might have said,

"Oh, no, we're not going to have many casualties."

Ed Schulz has played the clip several times this afternoon, and the operative phrase is very mumbled from Robertson. The rest of the segment is very clear, but for that one line, his voice drops in pitch and volume and the words are run together very quickly. I think it's very possible he said "many," not "any." I can't tell for sure, but I think it's possible. And yes, I'm sure that some GOP minion may pick up on my analysis and use it to exonerate both boosh and that sanctimonious hypocrite robertson.

And there's legitimate reason, I think, for boosh to have believed there wouldn't be "many" casualties. The first Gulf War was considered "bloodless" because so few Americans died, and I suspect boosh figured his gulf war would be equally "bloodless." I also agree with other posters who have said boosh's confidence in a quick and clean US victory suggests that he knew conclusively before the invasion that Saddam Hussein had no WMDs and no real capacity for resistance to the American military machine. Hence, no real fear of massive casualties and that sense of being "on top of the world" that robertson expresses.

In less than two years, we've seen over 1100 US deaths, untold thousands of Iraqi civilians, serious life-changing injuries in the thousands, and so on. In the grand numerical scheme of things, 1100 dead isn't a lot. It's not the 3000 killed on 9/11, nor even the 2500 or so killed on 12/7. In the grand boosh scheme, of course, none of them are significant.

To acknowledge that they are would be to admit that he had been wrong in any way, and that is simply not possible for this psychopathic turd. That's why he can't attend a funeral, and why I can't get his brain and mouth around a statement of condolence such as he gave in the third debate. The dead are not human, whether they are serving in the American military or they are innocent civilians of the nvaded country or even paid contractors greedy for big bucks. Their deaths are ordained by their god, and therefore not to be mourned but celebrated.

The crucial line in Ron Suskind's article from the NYT Magazine came early, the quote from Bruce Bartlett: "This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . . "

[DoYouEverWonder]

26. If that happened they are screwing with the audio

I saw it live last night and it was very clear what he had said.

[ogradda]

6. they're going to have the white house response

to this on cnn after the commercial break. i can't wait.

[deadparrot]

8. Who gives a shit-- it's still a lie. Over 1100 dead is a LOT.

[txindy]

10. That would be easier to believe if CNN didn't keep showing the tape

where Robertson is quite clear in saying, "any casualties." :eyes: MSNBC obviously doesn't watch tapes of interviews on other networks. Facts might confuse them. Opinions are easier. ;)

[Texas_Dem]

12. God told MSNBC what Shrub REALLY said.

[dogtag]

13. Sounds to me like Shrub knew there were

no WMD!!!!

[leftofthedial]

17. that's the REAL upshot of this

if Iraq was such a threat, if Iraq had no WMDs, if Saddam and his military were so dangerous, even a halfwit like the little bushturd would have expected casualties.

[Thrill]

16. Transcript

ZAHN: He's been posed repeatedly in debates, what mistakes have you made? He's been asked that on the campaign trail and he hasn't come up with any.

ROBERTSON: I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf War started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life.

You remember, Mark Twain said, he looks like a contended Christian with four aces. He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.

Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties. Well, I said, it's the way it's going to be. And so, it was messy. The lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy. And before that, I had deep, in my spirit, I had deep misgivings about going into Iraq.

[leftofthedial]

19. so one true Gawd told Evil Pat "messy disaster"

and another one true Gawd told the little bushturd there wouldn't be any casualties

Puh-raize-uh Gawd-uh for their infinite wisdom!

[Ducks In A Row]

18. And that's SO much better

yep. Bush was happy to send thousands of soldiers too their deaths. La Di Da

[Harlan James]

24. The Best Way To Settle It...

...would be to put old happy Pat into an ad with footage straight from his interview with dear old Paula Zahn.

I mean, shouldn't the fundies be given the opportunity to see Pat express some doubt about God's favorite president?