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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:14 PM
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Karen Hughes said Pat Robertson is lying
Jumbo Hughes said Pat Robertson was lying when he said Bush said there would be no casualties in Iraq. Jumbo said there already were casualties, so why would Bush say it?

BECAUSE HE'S DETACHED FROM REALITY, STUPID!
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:16 PM
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1. He's a man of god
she better watch out, he prayed azway a hurricane from Virginia.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:17 PM
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2. There were war casualties before the war started?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:27 PM
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19. I actually think there were around ten men killed in accidents
in Kuwait as well as other "incidents" in and around Iraq before the invasion.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM
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44. but those men and women lives dont count under bush
counting system
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:18 PM
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3. the Bush campaign
is calling Pat Robertson a liar. The fundies won't like that.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:28 PM
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62. ""OMG, OMG OMFG""
I'm starting to hear heavy thunder in the background, and flashes of light.......and the light is becoming brighter.

.......did Pat just expose the Antichrist?
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:18 PM
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4. The quote
I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf War started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life.

You remember, Mark Twain said, he looks like a contended Christian with four aces. He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.

Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties. Well, I said, it's the way it's going to be. And so, it was messy. The lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy. And before that, I had deep, in my spirit, I had deep misgivings about going into Iraq.

==========

What does she mean by "already"? Clearly, this is from before the war.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:19 PM
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5. Be careful, Karen. You don't want to upset your base.
This is getting good. It's internecine fighting.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:24 PM
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12. If Pat told his Virginian fanatics to stay home, we would win Old Dominion
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:42 PM
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33. Oh, oh oh oh...
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:21 PM
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6. What's the correct way to parse...
... a statement from a known liar (Hughes) who discredits what another liar (Robertson) claims a pathological liar (Bush) said?

And, oh -- she (Hughes) says he's (Robertson) lying about it.

Does that make it true? I can't keep up.

turbo_satan
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goondogger Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:23 PM
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11. Ow, ow, owww
You makin' my head hurt.
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:40 PM
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30. Yep, that's the idea, make everyone's head hurt
trying to keep up. Instill DOUBT. The WH is a master at that.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:25 PM
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16. Heehee, Lying liars and the liars they lie to...sumpin' like that, Welcome
to DU!
:toast:
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:34 PM
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25. LOL!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM
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42. Faith-based reality is so confusing
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Welcome to DU, where we prefer realistic reality. :hi:



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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:57 PM
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48. two negatives equal a positive?
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:21 PM
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7. BECAUSE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IRAQ YOU FREAK
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 04:36 PM by MidwestTransplant
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:22 PM
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8. Oh man, this is getting good. I'm going to get the popcorn started . . .
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:23 PM
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9. Ask Tucker Carlson whether Karen HUghes

is to be believed in stataments about Shrub:

http://www.rense.com/general44/badfaith.htm
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:23 PM
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10. Naughty Karen
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 04:23 PM by BrentTaylor
ZAHN: He's been posed repeatedly in debates, what mistakes have you made? He's been asked that on the campaign trail and he hasn't come up with any.

ROBERTSON: I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf War started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life.

You remember, Mark Twain said, he looks like a contended Christian with four aces. He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.

Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties. Well, I said, it's the way it's going to be. And so, it was messy. The lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy. And before that, I had deep, in my spirit, I had deep misgivings about going into Iraq.





The second paragraph just shows the arogance with this chimp faced FOOL
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:36 PM
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26. Is Robertson mixing things up?
He mentions the Gulf War than talks about going into Iraq.
:shrug:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:24 PM
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13. The Incredible Hulk Lies!
Pat was recounting a conversation they had before the war, and Karen knows it. She was just counting on the fact that the reporters who interview her a) are stupid, and B) don't do their homework, and C) won't challenge any of the WH gang when they lie to their faces.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:33 PM
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23. The Wolfen
That's my name for her er it
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:03 PM
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57. Sounds like a pretty safe bet for Ma Frump
If the past four years are anything to go by.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:25 PM
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14. We already know from Tucker Carlson what an amazing liar KH is.
She has a lot of credibility.:eyes:
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:25 PM
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15. You gotta have pretty big balls
to call Pat Robertson a liar.

Of course, Bigfoot made her bones some years back, so she can say whatever she wants.

Not even Pat Robertson's God's wrath can touch her.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:26 PM
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17. heeheehee
ya gotta love it.
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:27 PM
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18. Has anyone got her EXACT words?
That would be helpful.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:29 PM
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20. Takes one to know one.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:31 PM
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21. Oooooooh! LOL CAT FIGHT!
Watching the 700 club might be a real hoot for the next few days LOL
(If I can stomach it that is!)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:32 PM
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22. WHERE? This needs to spread EVERYWHERE, if true.
Links? Downloads?

Anyone have this information?
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:47 PM
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64. That is what I want to do!
How do we get this snowball a-rollin'!?

hughes is making a big deal today regarding Teresa's 'sorry' to Laura. How can we get this to replace it?
Any ideas??
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:33 PM
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24. My post from last night.
The positive dust is working.


"IT'S MIND BOGGLING...


A president going into a war, and says not worried about casualties ??? Tell that to the 1100 dead, 8,000 wounded.

This kind of statement from the only person who can send these people to die, is almost malfeasance.

I hope this statement is picked up and gets national air time. It's coming from a religious nut, who certainly wouldn't lie. Hell, he's a Bush supporter. So it kills all kinds of birds with one stone.

It shows we have a mental patient in the White House."





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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:37 PM
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27. Is God sending mexxed missages to Shrub and Pat?
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:41 PM
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32. I was wondering the same thing earlier today. Either God or bush is lying.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:55 PM
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46. OMG - Did God do a Flip Flop?
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 04:55 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Nah, no way.

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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:40 PM
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28. Alright! They're replying to it. This will make it a bigger issue.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM by milkyway
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Harlan James Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:40 PM
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29. Pat and Georgie talk to distinctly different Gods
Pat's said people would get killed and that would be bad.

But Georgie's said, "Yesssss, my lovely. Nobody will get hurt. Start the war, the Iraqi will greet us with flowers and parades. Yesssss..."
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:41 PM
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31. ms Huge will spin to say she was talking about
the casualties on 9/11... wait and see. they LOVE to talk about that!

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:44 PM
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34. Can't these sleaze bags get their stories straight before they
descend upon the MSM. They should have their ducks in a row before being sent out!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:46 PM
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35. He said it in March 2003, BEFORE the war started
Nice try, Karen.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:49 PM
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36. Hughes and Robertson should settle this like men
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:52 PM
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37. A duel! Paging Zell Miller....
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:53 PM
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40. LOL LMFAO
Oh that is funny
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:03 PM
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55. Indeed. Make sure they both have codpieces! nt
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:52 PM
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38. Somebody, I ain't sayin' who, is violating the Eighth Commandment.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:53 PM
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39. Is there a CREDIBLE source to go by here?
I'm just asking.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:55 PM
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47. Bush lies, Hughes lies, Robertson lies, and CNN lies.
So no, it's a big liar-fest really.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:59 PM
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50. I wonder what Jim Angle has to say about it
from what I have seen he seems to know more of the Bush speel than W himself and Angle works harder at it.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:02 PM
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54. No, because she didn't say he was lying.
The WH said Bush didn't make the comment.
Ball's in the Rev's court.
Hopefully, this will play out excruciatingly slowly.
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:03 PM
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56. PAT ROBERTSON !!
This is better than 100 Mary Cheneys.

Robertson named the place, his insistence, Bush's indifference and the actual statement. It doesn't even matter if it's not exact. He's the president about to send people to die, and he isn't worried about a thing.

Robertson has just stuck Bush's dick in his own mouth. I saw it coming last night.

Run to the round house junior. They can't corner ya there.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM
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41. This should blow up into a nice little fundie shitstorm!
Karen Hughes questioning the Word of a Man Of God? Pass the popcorn! :evilgrin:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:04 PM
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58. Can you mocve down one? This seat is sticky! nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM
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43. Bigfoot can't unring this bell
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:55 PM
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45. From the Associated Press:

Traveling with Bush in the Midwest, Hughes said political adviser Karl Rove was in the Feb. 10, 2003 meeting with the president and Robertson in Nashville, Tenn., but Bush never said there wouldn’t be casualties in Iraq.
“Obviously, we already had casualties in Afghanistan at the time. If you look at that, that (the comment) was not consistent with what was going on,” she said.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, “Of course, the president never made such a comment.”
Robertson released a statement about Bush late Wednesday in which he said, “I emphatically stated that I believe ’the blessing of heaven is upon him’ and I am persuaded that he will win this election and prevail on the war against terror in order to keep America safe from her avowed enemies.
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:01 PM
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52. Does this statement apply to Pat also -
"in order to keep America safe from her avowed enemies."

This man (and the likes of him) is the biggest enemy to America!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:58 PM
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49. So, then, um, she DIDN'T say Robertson was lying.
The WH said Bush did not make the comment.
So, the ball is back in Robertson's court.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
This may take a few wonderful days to play out.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:02 PM
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53. No, she did NOT say Robertson was lying
She did not say Bush was lying, either. She did a politicians tap-dance. All she said was "why would Bush say that?" That is far, far from calling either man a liar. And a lot of you fell for it. Imagine what the Wal Mart Nation thinks? Come on, people! We're smarter than that. Be careful in these final days...be very careful in the way you LISTEN...a lot of twisted parsing of words and sideways comments are coming our way.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:10 PM
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60. Let's give these miserable fuckheads
plenty of time and room
to twist in the wind
over this nice little mess.
And also, "casualties" refers to
both wounded and dead. So, according to
the upstanding RevRob, Bush was saying
that there would not even be any wounded!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:37 PM
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63. Bus Scottie DID say he was lying....
“Of course, the president never made such a comment.”
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:53 PM
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65. Scottie did NOT say Robertson was lying.
Now, in saying that, did I just call you a liar?
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:54 AM
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67. You did indeed.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:25 PM
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69. You should indeed stop smoking that bush.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:59 PM
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51. Jumbo Hughes....that's a new one!
:-)
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:08 PM
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59. It's A Good'un- Jumbo- Yeah It Fits
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:21 PM
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61. It doesn't matter to Pat Robertson if Bush lies or contradicts him
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 05:31 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
During the 2000 campaign, Pat Robertson said the following:

"The Lord has just blessed him. I mean, he could make terrible mistakes and comes out of it. It doesn’t make any difference what he does, good or bad; God picks him up because he’s a man of prayer, and God’s blessing him."

Bush could murder Pat Robertson on live television and sexually defile his corpose. From heaven, Pat Robertson would absolve Bush of sin because he is God's chosen one.

In fact, AFTER the 2000 election Pat Robertson said that the proof that God chose Bush was that he lost the election but still became President. That shows divine intervention. Karen Huge doesn't really have to tap dance around this, as Bush can make one "terrible mistake" after another and still reign as the representative of God's will on earth. Bush has never contradicted or denied Pat Robertson's claim that Bush is the living proof of divine intervention. Bush just keeps smirking at the masses of fundamantalists who flock to see the wonder of his head bobbing and primitive dance.



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lfs5 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:46 AM
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66. Them's fightin' words...
She could alienate a WHOLE bunch of conservative Christian voters talking 'bout the Reverend thata way!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:19 AM
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68. Hughes Saying This, Sir
Amounts to confirmation Robertson's statement is an accurate report....

"It is wonderful to observe the calm confidence of a Christian with four aces."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:27 PM
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70. Any fight or spat between shrubco and the fundies is win-win for K/E.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:56 PM
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71. Yeah?
Well, that Hughes whore is an ugly, lying sow. . . .
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