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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:54 PM
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RUMSFELD TOLD SOLDIERS IT IS THEIR DUTY TO VOTE FOR BUSH
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 06:34 PM by Pirate Smile
On radio station KMBZ 980am in Kansas City at around 5:40 p.m. (it just happened)a soldier from Leavenworth called in and said that Rumsfeld was at Fort Leavenworth yesterday.

He was taking soldiers in small groups to talk to and the soldiers had to sign some kind of waiver.

He told the soldiers it was their "DUTY" to vote for Bush.

The soldier was afraid his voice would be recognized on the radio.

My Mom just heard this on the radio and called and told me so I could post it. She is calling the station to try and find out more.

Edit to add: A women called in after this soldier and said Rummy wasn't there. If he was, her husband would have known.

Doew anyone know where Rummy was yesterday?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:55 PM
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1. If that is true it is illegal
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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6. illegal never stopped a rethug n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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7. Hopefully someone can get the tape from the station and confirm
a caller said this and check if Rummy was in Leavenworth.

Let the investigation begin.
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UsualFrog Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:13 PM
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27. Well...
Church/Mosque/Temple leaders, employers, lords, club presidents and the like have been using this kind of language for millenia to rope in the sheep.

It is unethical--lame even; however, how is it illegal? He's a civilian employee that Serves At the Pleasure of the President. Though he has policy-level jurisdiction regarding what the military is sent to do and how it might be sent to do it, I would maintain that anyone that would hear that sort of drivel and take it as any more than a stumping politician--well---stumping is lost to our cause regardless.

I am proud of anyone that might find themselves in that sort of situation who ignores this sort of attempt at manipulation.

Everyone is gifted with the ability to think and make decisions. As much as I dislike Mr. Rumsfeld, not even he has the ability to force any one of his audience (military or no) to vote for PGWB.

The voting booths are private. Even someone who has not the strongest of wills has the privilege and right to make their individual decision on election day. Regardless of what they might say or insinuate after they return to their quarters or while training, on maneuvers or deployed to fellow soldiers, commanders or family members, the box/circle/touch-screen they fill-in/punch/touch will reflect their convictions, thoughts and vision. Not someone else's. Not Mr. Rumsfeld's.

As with all citizens, _that_ is their obligation.

That is their DUTY.

-Stephen

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:55 PM
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2. If that is true it is illegal
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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3. that's pretty big if it could be validated
keep in mind anyone can call into a radio talk show and make claims like this fairly anonymously. Though if he is legit he's probably right to worry about his voice being recognized.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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4. Good, they hate that rat bastard.
That'll get us at least 50%.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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5. They are true to form..........
Just when you think there IS no "lower".........Whoops! there they go. Dear Lord what next?:wow:
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CMO Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:02 PM
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15. They will do anything
to get a vote. For some reason people in the military are voting for Bush. I can't understand it. This comment is just like Chaney saying that if we dont vote for Bush we will be attacked by nukes. What???

P.S. There was just a lovely Kerry commercial on in stl on fox sponsored by fox??? Whats that all about? GO Kerry!
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Grown2Hate Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:49 AM
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34. Yeah, we have that commercial here in Phoenix, AZ too!
It's Kerry giving a little 30 second spot on health care, apparently sponsored by Fox, on Fox, and it says it's about bringing the ISSUES out to people (so, I expected to see Bush saying something next... but no, both times it was ONLY Kerry! What's up with that? Not that I'm COMPLAINING...)

And uh... GO Red Sox! ;) Sorry.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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8. This should be kept kicked
This is a scandal.
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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9. Kick
This needs to get attention.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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Doesn't surprise me - Rovesfeld showing he is a fascist
What else is new. These guys need to carry those mini-MP3 recorders that can record all day with internal memory. I have one for that purpose - very handy thing to have.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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10. That's outrageous
but as I've been told by several friends who've been in Iraq, Soldiers are under TREMENDOUS pressure to vote for Bush. They're almost scared not to do so.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:08 PM
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18. I guess he said he isn't going to vote. I have heard that the Pentagon
may count the votes. Is that true? If it is, you can see why they would be scared.

If they are absentee, the envelopes say who is the voter.

I would think they would get sent to the states like the others but I don't know anything about military ballots.
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Out the Parasites Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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11. Wow - but how is this illegal exactly? Does anyone know? Very interestin
g thanks for posting this. I can't wait to hear the tape if one comes out!!!
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:32 PM
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25. the HATCH ACT
might apply
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Out the Parasites Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:37 AM
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30. thanks...just looked it up...most certainly it would apply
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:01 PM
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12. How can this be verified?
Powerful if true!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:09 PM
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19. I'd love to hear the tape be played on all the news channels.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:01 PM
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13. How can this be verified?
Powerful if true!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:03 PM
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16. Make Rumsfeld deny it
eom
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:02 PM
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14. Oh my
The extents they will go to he!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:07 PM
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17. It's the duty of the CnC to make sure that his troops are fully
equipped to carry out their mission, and the AWOL chimp in chief has not done that! Therefore the troops have no obligation to follow him let alone vote for him! And Rumfilled should just STFU!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:09 PM
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20. Kick!
:kick:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:10 PM
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21. damn good thing they are dieing for our freedom of speech
and right to vote.......

just had this conversation with two boys, our responsibility, obligation to speak out, is after all why our soldiers are dieing for us
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:11 PM
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22. illegal=repuke-it's their mantra
:kick:
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Astrochimp Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:13 PM
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23. KCMO is 710 am Link inside.........
http://www.710kcmo.com/

(home of the great Mike Murphy)


"around 5:40 p.m" is during the Sean Hannity show, so strange a local would call.


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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:29 PM
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24. I called back. It was on 980 which is KMBZ. KCMO is a different station
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:39 PM
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26. kick n/t
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MassLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:39 AM
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31. kick
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:21 PM
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28. another example of: D E S P E R A T I O N folks
how BAD must things be if they have to send Rummy to COERCE the military to support their CiC?

D E S P E R A T I O N
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:24 PM
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29. Could you or your Mom call the station
and ask for a recording or transcript of that?

And/or, (especially if there's a transcript) send the story, with the station's email and phone number, to local media outlets, national media, and bloggers.

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 10:58 AM
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32. Just e-mailed my cousin at the KC Star
I asked him to ask the national desk if Rummy was there, and what he said, if they know. He might not know, since he's the literary critic. I'll update when I get his reply.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:01 AM
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33. leaving no dirty trick or act of coersion unturned
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