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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:56 PM
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As a Kerry supporter this needs to be said Ms Heinz needs to shut the Hell
up. Her big mouth is hurting this very close election
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sandersadu Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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1. Totally Agree
I'm all for the "strong woman" thing, but wait til after the election. She's not running for office. Follow Elizabeth Edwards' lead!
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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5. I have to agree. I love Mrs. T, but we don't have that long to go.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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10. there's only been TWO instances where she's said something that got
'outrage'

John, OTOH, said 'nuiance,' 'global test,' and 'sensitive'

oh..and the mary cheney thing
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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2. you need to shut up
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:02 PM
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17. Agree there!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:06 PM
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23. No kidding. She's a breath of fresh air.
Men who are uncomfortable about women with their own opinions are like farts in crowded elevators. Pee-yew.

First ladies are despised no matter what they do, it's like a national sport. It really doesn't matter who they are, and it has never affected a political election in the past, and it won't affect this one.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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3. what,
should we hide her in a closet with Mary Cheney? :eyes:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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Prove that she's altered any races
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Out the Parasites Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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4. I doubt she will...and after all what did she say that is so offensive???
She's refreshing.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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6. tell John to stop saying crap like 'nuiance' 'global test' and 'sensitive'
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:58 PM
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7. Sexist bullshit.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:59 PM
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8. Here is what she said- Just what is so bad about it?
"Well, you know, I don't know Laura Bush. But she seems to be calm, and she has a sparkle in her eye, which is good," Heinz Kerry said. "But I don't know that she's ever had a real job — I mean, since she's been grown up. So her experience and her validation comes from important things, but different things."

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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:07 PM
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25. "I don't know that she's ever had a real job."
Without being familiar with the details, I am pretty sure she is a librarian. There are undoubtedly many educators out there that would take offense at such a remark, which either shows ignorance regarding Laura's career or implies that being a librarian (and by extension, educator) is not a "real" job.

I wonder what Mrs. Kerry's "job" is (I mean, besides marrying into money). Seriously, I don't know. What does she do with her time; what did she do before she was rich?

Whether or not she is a nice lady, I don't know, but saying what she did about Laura won't make others think she's very nice.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:59 PM
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9. Women should speak MORE, male politicians less....
it's not the Dark Ages.
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bukk Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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11. Oh, good grief!
As many women will turn out for her as are turned off, if not more. Strong women who mouth off are good for Democrats. Yeah, the Rethugs froth at the mouth over them, but they're all a buncha misogynistic men and self-hating women anyway.

Go, Teresa!
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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12. What has she said recently that is offensive???
Only time I have heard anything she said get press coverage was this summer when she told someone to "shove it."
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EagleEye Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:01 PM
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13. FluffDaddy made the post then left. It's a set up
Drop this sh*t now. Do not give it energy.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:01 PM
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14. So is her husband's inability to talk to the folks.
He is not getting it done. This should not be a close election and would not be if he (and his handlers) had figured out how to speak with, not at, the people.

I understand you are frustrated but stop blaming a woman.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:02 PM
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15. Totally agree
The attention she is drawing to herself is not doing one bit of good for Kerry's campaign.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:04 PM
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20. tell John to stop saying crap like 'nuiance' 'global test' and 'sensitive'
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:02 PM
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16. she needs to modify her delivery
It's apparent she hasn't nailed down talking points to stick to and talk like a politician. She has a tendency to improvise and sticks her foot in her mouth. If Lynne Cheney actually said what she really felt about things as frequently as Teresa, she'd also run into trouble.

I don't think it's a gender issue.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:03 PM
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18. She apologized.Enough said.
And it is probably really true that Laura hasn't had a real job. She certainly hasn't done anything for years. When did she last work as a librarian? Give me a break. Anyone who would base a vote against Kerry on this wouldn't vote for him anyway! Theresa is actually too good for this country as evidenced by comments like yours.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:03 PM
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19. Not here to fight with you guys. John shut your wife up or you will have
4 years to wish you did.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:04 PM
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21. tell John to stop saying crap like 'nuiance' 'global test' and 'sensitive'
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:05 PM
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22. If had gone the rest of my life ...

If I had gone the rest of my life without that being said, it wouldn't have been too late.

Should Dean, Gore, Clark, et al shut up? No, they shouldn't, and when they stick it to the opposition, we applaud them. Why not applaud Theresa as well? Is it because she's a woman?

That's certainly the reason she's being criticized. It plays well to a certain segment of the population, a segment I personally think needs to quit pretending and just be honest about how they think women are inferior. They can go to hell.

I'll stand with Theresa, or even ten paces behind if it is needed to make the point.

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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:07 PM
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24. It has nothing to do with her being a woman
and everything to do with the lack of a valid argument.

Her saying a likeable person person like Laura Bush has never had a real job is not going to help with men or women.

Lots of women consider simply being a good mother being a real job.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:08 PM
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26. I agree. remember when Dean said that the terror warning was...
politically motivated? did anyone tell him to shut up?
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