blondeatlast
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:57 PM
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Decoding the fundie "code," can anyone help with this? |
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This hits home regarding Robertson's statements on Paula Zahn today, and someone in a GD2004 thread mentioned the infamous "code."
If this is new to you, a brief explanation and I hope others can help out as well (since mine is apt to be woefully inadequate).
During the debates, many pundits and media whores mentioned that Bush was often speaking in a "code" understood by Christian fundamentalists.
I'm wondering what the "code" consists of?
This is NOT meant as an excuse to attack anyone; it's a simple plea for knowledge.
If you have links or any ideas, I'd love to know.
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:58 PM
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1. The only "code" thing I heard was the reference to Dred Scott... |
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...which appears to be some thinly veiled reference to Roe v. Wade.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:00 PM
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6. The implication was that there was lots more to it, though. |
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I have no idea, but if we could "break it" if it even truly exists, we would have them dead to rights.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:20 PM
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14. It's not like a secret thing. |
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Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 07:20 PM by LoZoccolo
If you listened to a lot of right-wing radio you'd know they compare Roe vs. Wade to Dred Scott. It's just a thing where a culture has some unique language, like how people on DU use "Pickles" to talk about Laura Bush but people outside of this activist culture don't know what it means. We have a ton of stuff like that. Or even how John Kerry mentioned the Saudi royal family during his convention speech; people who've seen Farenheit 9/11 knew about that and it was a nod to us.
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:59 PM
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Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 07:00 PM by nosferatu
I don't believe it. No way something like that could be kept a secret. The only code Bush speaks in is moranish. That's a southern version of moronish.
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:59 PM
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even the no child LEFT BEHIND act is code to the doomsday fundies.
left behind is code for post rapture
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Wed Oct-20-04 06:59 PM
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4. Batting Eyes in Morse code (n/t) |
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:00 PM
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from the Bible...ones that fundies would be familiar with, but the general populace wouldn't catch.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:04 PM
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7. That isn't quite it; see the post above regarding "Dred Scott." |
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I'm reasonably familiar with the Bible, that doesn't explain it.
In another thread, someone speculated that what Robertson said was "coded," but went way off=track.
It's an interesting theary, especially if it did backfire.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:09 PM
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9. I recognize the phrases |
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and when you look them up for context, it's a message. He's been doing it for years.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:06 PM
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8. I think that they were referring to phrases used by *... |
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That might go unnoticed by the unwashed, un-christened masses but would be picked up on and recognized as important by the fundamentalists.
This could include such phrases as "God", "Religion", "Faith", "Based", "Ignorance", "Opponent", "Terrorist", "Economy", "Education", etc...
Most of us regular people, when we here Georgie using these words in his speeches, we think that he is just speaking non-sense as usual, but there are a select few here in America, that when they here these words, they know that they are hearing the voice of God himself.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:12 PM
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10. That's what I'm talking about. |
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What are the 'specialized' meanings to them?
I've heard this from what I consider to be trusted sources, too.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:17 PM
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12. It's not literally a "code" |
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It doesn't mean fundies have special decoder rings :)
It has to do with certain words or phrases that evoke other images or ideas in some people's minds.
The Dred Scott decision is, apparently, something used on anti-choice websites as part of their argument -- so mentioning that in the context of a discussion on choice would resonate with anti-choice people.
We used to hear alot of references to people who "want to work" as if there are people who don't. Scratch the surface of that and you quickly get Freepers ranting about "lazy" minorities on welfare.
"Liberal" has become code for virtually "everything wrong with America" according to fundies: not enough God, not enough imposing their beliefs on everybody else, not enough selfishness...
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:20 PM
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13. He used the phrase "culture of life," too. |
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Catholics like that phrase.
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:14 PM
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11. The big one.."compassionate conservatism" |
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Compassionate conservatism:
Definition:
Bush's committment to funnel federal tax money into programs run by churches to "aid"... the poor and the addicted via government funded (CHURCH RUN) "faith based" programs.
The above would replace all forms of welfare as we know them.
How the hell the media decided that this was his saying for lowering taxes on the poor is beyond me...there is an entire book on the topic and Bush himself wrote the foreward!
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:22 PM
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16. "I share your values" |
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= I hate queers
just like
"states rights" = I hate blacks "law and order" = I still hate blacks
was code in past decades
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:33 PM
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17. Bush's religious code |
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Wed Oct-20-04 07:36 PM
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18. "Culture of Life" is a Catholic key phrase |
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I'm Catholic and we hear it all the time. It's a PJPII deal where we are supposed to protect life from natural conception to natural death.
That means no abortion, no euthinasia, no capital punishment, not to mention all the stuff that goes on in between.
George Jr. uses this as a way to key in and *wink* to Catholics.
It's disgusting and makes me want to hurl, but it is definitely one of the CODES they're talking about.
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