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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:40 AM
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Re Campaign Alert: Arizona Republic Poll thursday
will have Bush with only 2% lead. Kery and Bush Tied for Az!
Arizona is going blue!
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:43 AM
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1. I read Kerry an his team are pulling out of Arizona.........writing it off
Will look for link
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:47 AM
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3. I think that's true
but IIRC, the Kerry team agreed to pull out, while leaving the state Dem party in charge of swinging AZ to blue.

This was the AZ Dem state party's idea, thinking that canvassing would be more effective than AZ state-wide media buys.

According to the AZ Dem Party, they thought they could be very effective in following this plan.

Could be wrong, but I think that was AZ.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:16 PM
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15. Uh! Uh! That is NOT true. And they have NOT pulled out!
But they are gambling AZ 10 EV's to see if they can secure New Mexico and Oregon.I think Oregon. My brain is dead! That would be 19EV's
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:46 AM
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2. Where are you getting that information
the poll they published today shows a 7pt Bush lead with Kerry closing the gap. Internals also looked great for Kerry to make even more gains but he wasn't yet within 2pts.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:53 AM
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4.  The internals say tommorrow. 2 points.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:56 AM
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7. Good to hear!
:thumbsup:
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:58 AM
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8. Polls link
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:54 AM
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5. The Link is down but here is the Quote. May be BS since the Link is dead.
Kerry Forces Pull out of Arizona (after dropping ads in MO, WVA)
Hotline/National Journal subscription only


The reailty of how Arizona fits into the national picture was underscored on Tuesday.

America Coming Together transferred its Arizona director to Florida, actor Martin Sheen scrapped a 10/23 event in Scottsdale to stump in Ohio and both campaigns have redeployed staffers from Arizona to more competitve states.

BC 04 spokesman Danny Diaz said 'numerous' field operatives being reassigned on the heels of polling showing that Bush continues to lead Arizona and in light of decisions by Kerry and liberal advocacy groups to cut advertising and other resources to the state.

KE 04 spokeswoman Susan Walitsky said that Kerry campaign workers have been moved from Arizona to neighboring battleground states, maintaining that 'there is no vacumn in Arizona.'


(Excerpt) Read more at http://nationaljournal/pubs/hotline
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:56 AM
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6. Sorry guys the more I read it the more it sounds like a GOP dirty trick
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 05:56 AM by Fluffdaddy
And Bull shit News story. Bad spelling an all................Sorry

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 06:36 AM
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9. Where is McCain and what is he doing?
Besides getting kisses from Bush and riding around on air force one that is.I thought he was to bring in Az.
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texasmom Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 06:41 AM
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10. only 7 point lead for Bush
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 06:44 AM by texasmom
Article says that Independents are going for Kerry.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1021poll21.html

Also from the article:
In purely mathematical terms, the 7-point margin returns the race to tossup status for the first time since a Republic Poll measured a 3-point difference in August.

Because the margin of error for a sampling of 600 people is plus or minus 4 percentage points, the results mean Bush could have anywhere from 43 to 51 points, and Kerry could have 36 to 44 points.



And...
One anomaly of the poll was that among voters in the 2000 election, 55 percent said they voted for Bush and 37 percent for Al Gore. The actual result in Arizona was much closer, 52-46.

What the difference might mean is open to many interpretations, Bowie said, but one possibility is that the sampling, although random, encountered a larger base of Bush supporters and that Kerry could be closer than the numbers reflect.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:17 AM
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11. 47-40 with 13 per cent undecided, and Kerry moved up 3.
Who knows, with so many undecided and JK on the move. I believe it is possible for JK to win in Arizona.

"In purely mathematical terms, the 7-point margin returns the race to tossup status for the first time since a Republic Poll measured a 3-point difference in August.

Because the margin of error for a sampling of 600 people is plus or minus 4 percentage points, the results mean Bush could have anywhere from 43 to 51 points, and Kerry could have 36 to 44 points."

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/...

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:11 PM
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12. I got my figures from a Campaign STaff Conference Call!
Numbers are much closer than they appear!
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vet_against_Bush Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:13 PM
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13. Oh my frickin Gawd! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee nt
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jerryster Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:19 PM
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14. Sorry to disagree
Just went to Time's battleground website. Bush has the lead in both polls cited, although one shows 14% undecided (and it's a couple of weeks old). The more recent one is tighter but still shows Bush with a 5 point lead. Hard to overcome at this date, but not impossible. Still, I think it would be a huge and wonderful surprise if Kerry comes out on top in AZ. The good news is that he can win without it. If he does take AZ Bush would be screwed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:17 PM
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16. Time is a junk Reug poll disgard it!
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