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Thu Oct-21-04 10:27 AM
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Marist Poll- Bush 49- Kerry 48 Nad(i)r 1/ Kerry 50-Bush 43 In Battleground |
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Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 10:53 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
I trust these guys...
www.realclearpolitics.com
The person who conducts the poll, Lee Miringoff is the president of the National Council of public Polls....
on edit- I trust Lee Miringoff....
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:28 AM
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1. That's A Sweet, Sweet Poll |
DemocratSinceBirth
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:29 AM
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3. It's Going To Be Close But We're In The Game... |
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Look at the Red Sox...
Would you have liked their hand when they were down 3-0...
It's an omen baby....
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:31 AM
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6. You HAD To Bring The Sox Into This!!!! |
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Grrrrr...This Yankee fan is not amused!!! ;-)
Let it never be said Beet's a bad sport. If it means a good omen for Kerry, GO SOX!!!
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:58 AM
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have not won anything...only a trip to the wordl series where the curse will live on!
Hopefully Kerry will have better luck than the sox!
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:29 AM
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:30 AM
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4. retype it "realclearpolitics" - it works |
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:31 AM
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:35 AM
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7. Here's another link to the Marist poll |
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:37 AM
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8. Marist "Battleground states" seem a larger group than those still in play |
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17 States are "Battleground"
Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, and West Virginia.
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:47 AM
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13. I think that's the battleground list |
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most pollsters are using, except Colorado probably should be in there.
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Thu Oct-21-04 11:08 AM
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22. Thanks - the broadcast folks use 8 to 10 states, but if it has the same |
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meaning to all the polling groups, we can compare and follow trends!
:-)
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:40 AM
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9. It's actually 48-47 among LVs and 47-47 among RVs |
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according to the Marist press release. http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/I'm not sure where realpolitics got 49-48.
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:45 AM
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11. Somethings Are Peculiar And Missing... |
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The peculiar things
Kerry is losing by twelve in the burbs.. Gore only lost by two... I guess it's how the pollster defines suburbs...
If Kerry is up by ten among women and down by ten among men wouldn't he be leading in the horserace because women make up a larger part of the electorate than men..
The Missing Thing
Where's the breakdown by race?
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:53 AM
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18. I was thinking what you were about the gender gap |
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Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 10:55 AM by lancdem
This poll may have interviewed about the same numbers of men and women, but more women than men will certainly vote on election day. Generally, though, this poll pretty much confirms what the vast majority of national polls show: a tied race with Bush at about 47 percent, with most of the undecideds being independents who should overwhelmingly swing to Kerry. I also like how Kerry has really consolidated his support among Dems in this poll, and only loses 8 percent to Bush. That's several points better than Gore did.
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:42 AM
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10. I was just wondering last night when this little |
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bald man would pop up...He always seems so "urgent" in a cute sort of way...LOL
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:46 AM
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12. I Trust That Organization... |
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They busted NBC and Frank Luntz for his faux focus groups..
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:49 AM
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14. 10/7 poll? It's OLD!!! taking a peek at the details, |
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1038 respondents. Using telephone exchanges weighted by population. OK. 825 RV with a MOE of 3.5% 642 LV with a MOE of 4% Crosstabs MOE higher of course..due to way smaller samples!
At least they're upfront about their MOE for the breakouts.
However, it is a pretty old poll, if that's the latest one they have....
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:51 AM
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16. The Poll Was Conducted 10-17 to 10-19 |
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The 10-7 was just a reference point for excluding Nader from where he's not on the ballot...
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:51 AM
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15. When you say you trust these guys do you mean |
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Marist or RealClear? If the latter, then I invite you to read some of their commentary. They are decidely on the right.
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:52 AM
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17. The Man Who Conducted The Poll |
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The realclearpolitics guy is a puke....
But he's a puke with a good stuff at his site...
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:56 AM
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19. I dont trust them as much as you(2000-Bush 49-Gore 44) |
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Thu Oct-21-04 10:59 AM
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21. According To That Chart I Should Trust Fox... |
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I trust his poll in the sense that if it is wrong it is a honest mistake....
That's all...
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Thu Oct-21-04 11:13 AM
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for a national poll. But its consistent with other results we've seen recently.
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Thu Oct-21-04 11:13 AM
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24. The internals on this poll are fascinating |
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Kerry gets 34% of the Evangelical Christian vote, surprisingly enough (to Bush's 60%).
Kerry is killing in first time voters, 53% to 35%.
People with money worries prefer Kerry, 62%-30%, no surprise, while people with no money worries prefer Bush by about the same margin.
As for what people like about their candidate, "Issues" is the #1 for Kerry supporters, but way down on the list (6%) for Bush supporters. This is the most outrageous of all. Since when did stance on the issues become a non-issue for half of the electorate?
A bit more:
67% of those polled say they are tuning into this election, up from 51% 4 years ago. This is very good news.
On the other hand, 55% of those polled say they believe * will win. That's gotta be Fox's fault. I'd like to see a bit more optimism!
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