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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:34 PM
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"Large bloc of swing voters-who still cannot comfortably back John Kerry"
"There remains a relatively large bloc of swing voters who are critical of the president but who still cannot comfortably back Senator John Kerry."

This can become a big problem, frustrated swing voters simply not voting at all, or some even voting for Nader (which the asshole Nader is counting on), or still and even worst, frustrated swing voters just saying "aw fuck it" and voting for the incumbent Bush and his fascist administration.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/opinion/21kohut.html?oref=login

The round of national surveys taken after the third presidential debate indicates that the polls are not going to give us a clear picture of who will win the election until the final days of the campaign, if then. This is not because polling no longer works - it's because voter opinion is highly unstable. While many Americans are strongly committed to re-electing President Bush or getting rid of him, there remains a relatively large bloc of swing voters who are critical of the president but who still cannot comfortably back Senator John Kerry.

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After the second debate, the race was pretty much even, with some movement toward Mr. Kerry. This week the picture is much cloudier, even though voters thought Mr. Kerry won the third debate. The race remains tied in the New York Times/CBS News Poll and Pew Research Center surveys, but the president has moved to a significant lead in the Newsweek, Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post polls. Besides conflicting bottom lines, the surveys also provide an array of contradictory conclusions about voter opinions. Some suggest that the debates had no impact on the race, while others say they strengthened support for Mr. Kerry. Some find the president's approval score sinking; others have it stable. Some show a big advantage for Mr. Bush when the samples are narrowed from registered voters to likely voters. Others show a negligible Bush advantage or even a Kerry advantage.

It's worth recalling that four years ago voters were similarly divided between the candidates. But the opinions about Al Gore and Mr. Bush did not bounce around, because there just wasn't all that much enthusiasm for either man. In fact, polls during the Florida recount found majorities saying both candidates would make an acceptable president. Not so in 2004. By every measure, voters tell us this year that they have given the race more thought and are paying more attention to election coverage, and a greater percentage say that it matters who gets elected in November. Yet many still say they are not sure about their choice or they are simply undecided.

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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:38 PM
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1. My guess...
truly frustrated undecided voters are not going to vote.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:41 PM
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2. Clinton effect
I expect Clinton to have an impact with his return to the campaign trail. I think he'll trump the Arnie effect easily!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:46 PM
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4. If the corporate media covers it broadly...Clinton WILL have a huge major
effect on the "undecided" the swing voters, etc.

But I don't count on the corporate media for shit...Rove will put pressure to tone it down!!!!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:45 PM
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3. Why are they uncomfortable with Kerry when you have a madman
as president?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:47 PM
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6. I think that's the point...fence sitters, undecided, moderates. Man. it's
fucking frustrating!!!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:48 PM
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7. fear
they are scaring people into thinking there will be terrorist attacks here if Kerry gets into office. there are a lot of ignorant people out there who fall for this.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:53 PM
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9. Absolutely. However, we all knew that was going to be BushCo's only
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 01:55 PM by Zinfandel
and effective card that Rove could play...Kerry has done a decent job at it at exposing and deflecting it...

But how do you keep a lying asshole, ugly sick prick, like Dick Cheney from making just lying crazy statements daily and the whore media broadcasting it and never calling him on it...

When it is just Cheney opinion, not based on facts (as we've all seen before) and meant to simply push fear onto the American people.
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:47 PM
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5. Well, I try
to have respect for people who take their time, look over the issues, etc., in respect to their vote but now I am losing my patience ... why?

LOOK AT THE CHIMP, PEOPLE! LISTEN TO THE CHIMP TALK. SEE THE CHIMP DO WHAT CHIMPS DO!

He is actually starting to be a put down to simians themselves. They hold up better on inspection.


I mean, come on! What more do you really need to know? Someone mentioned that they expected him to start flinging poo during his recent speech ... it was funny, but not so off the mark.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:49 PM
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8. Goddamn those dullards!
Damn them to hell!
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:56 PM
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10. This "swing-voter"/undecided stuff is bullshit
I think its a complete waste of time to go after these type of people. If you haven't made up your mind yet you don't have one. Its a complete waste of time. I know people who say they are undecided and you can't depend on them to even decide if its raining outside even in the middle of a thunderstorm.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:56 PM
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11. BUSH EMPIRE VIRTUAL REALITY ALERT!
Please ignore this article, as it is a product of the Bush empire's Faith-Based Reality Manufacturing Program. Details here.

:headbang:
rocknation

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