I'm switching my support to Clark

[rogerashton]

As if anybody cared.

Make no mistake: I will vote for, support and contribute to the nominee of the party.

I had been leaning toward Kerry. I still like the guy, but it is not coming together.

At an emotional level, I like Dean. I like that he is as angry as I am, and I like that he is energizing young people of all ages. I could (and if he is nominated will) support him with great enthusiasm. But his ideas are too reactive, and it is not only because he is emotionally "hot." Underneath, he is a Democratic Centrist -- and that is not a "new" Democrat, folks. What we call the left, right and center in this country are all old hat, soooo twentieth-century. Having his feet firmly planted in that muck makes it difficult for Dean to be anything other than reactive.

Clark is no liberal, but nor is he a conservative or a stereotypical "centrist." In inventing himself as a politician, he seems to be really open to ideas.

Any general officer is the leader of a team. That's important, because a really pragmatic approach to our problems will be a team effort. The President doesn't need to be competent, for example, in open-economy macroeconomics, but he damn sure needs to be able to put together a team with some folks who are. And the test to be on the team needs to be competence, not whether the person agrees with the party line (MOST UNLIKE the Bush* mob). That seems to be beginning to happen with Clark.

We DO live in a dangerous world, and we need a president who can reconsider our military doctrines and adjust them to the realities of 2004, not fighting out old grudges and continuing obsolete anticommunist obsessions. And our military will have to be rebuilt since it has been gutted by the Bush*co "war on the cheap." Clark is the obvious choice to do that.

The idea that one of our major parties is incapable of dealing with the defense of the country is a major problem both for our democracy and for our defense. The nomination and election of Clark as a Democrat would be historically important in restoring some balance in the perception of the parties, and that is important for the nation.

I am not considering "electability." I think it is important that we support the best man to be president of the United States. The party can offer a number of very good possibilities, not all of them now candidates, all head and shoulders better than Bush* (even if he were not the thief of elections and of Baghdad). But I have come to the conclusion that Clark is best for the country.

[Sean Reynolds]

1. Have fun losing in the primary!

Look forward to having ya' on board when Dean's heading to the general election. :hi:

[Name removed]

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[Sean Reynolds]

7. Aww, check the polls.

Dean continues to expand his lead.

[Renew Deal]

14. From when

noon to now? He has been trending down for 2 weeks and you know that.

[Sean Reynolds]

16. Dean seems to be pretty stable in NH...

He's rising nationally, rising in Iowa. Where's Clark? Last I checked he's only 9 points above Kerry. Uh oh.....

[Renew Deal]

18. And 14 points behind Dean

Where was he last week?

[Sean Reynolds]

23. Where was he last week? Clark was behind Dean only by 14!

Seems he's still behind Dean by 14 points.

[Clark Can WIN]

37. Is it just possible that the nasty and sometimes immature posts

of some Dean supporters are reflecting poorly enough on their candidate to drive still more people into Clarks expanding pool of voters? I think it is, in fact I've met a couple of them.

[Sean Reynolds]

40. If that were the case Clark would be in the tank.

Cause his supporters can be real asses too. Not saying all are, but there are a lot. But I wont deny I'm an ass.

[xultar]

6. Could this be why a lot of people don't like Dean Supporters?

When I've seen people Declare for other candiates I always post postive messages. Saying "Dean is lucky to have you as a new supporter" Stuff like that.

Why do you have to jump in and be RUDE? I really want to understand.

[Sean Reynolds]

10. Well good, I'm different.

That person told their opinion, and I told them by opinion. I feel Clark's going to lose in the general election. I wasn't rude about it, I didn't attack him and I welcomed him to the Dean side once Dean won the nomination.

Getting pissy that Kerry's on your ass in New Hampshire?

[Renew Deal]

17. Getting pissy

that Clark is on your ass in NH? Where is that 25 point lead again?

[Sean Reynolds]

On Dean's ass?

Dean's at 34%, Clark's at 20%. That is a 14 point spread, hardly on his ass.

[Clark Can WIN]

41. "have fun losing in the primary"

Is just about the very definition of being rude and doesn't really qualify as an opinion.

Nice try though. I understand why you are so accostomed to having to spin, given your candidate.

[Sean Reynolds]

46. How isn't it an opinion?

It is my BELIEF (read opinion) that Clark's gonna lose in the primaries.

[Clark Can WIN]

53. see #45

:dunce: your fellow Dean supporters have requested you be sent to the corner for a time out.

[Sean Reynolds]

56. ONE supporter.

And I'm not goin.

[Clark Can WIN]

62. two so far and you're likely to pick up more

given your behavior.

[Sean Reynolds]

65. In the words of our great leader: Bring 'em On!

;-)

[Renew Deal]

8. Roger takes the time to write out such an articulate and thought out

post and this is your response? This sort of behavior isn't only not nice, it is anti-democrat. I want to include peopel in this party, do you?

[Sean Reynolds]

15. I'm not a Democrat.

So I don't care.

Don't give me that anti-DemocratIC BS. This is a message board to post 'opinions'. Roger wrote out his, I replied back with MINE. That *IS* Democratic, no?

[Name removed]

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[Sean Reynolds]

24. So you're a Republican too?

Cause I've seen MANY times where you've bashed Dean. But alas, no I'm not a Republican.

[Renew Deal]

29. Democrat here

I don't have a problem addmiting I'm a dem. You are the one sat said you weren't a dem. So you aren't a dem, but you want to influence my party's election? I like the open primaries and I welcome you to change your affiliation, but being that you aren't a dem, you have no right to be nasty to the members of the party.

[Sean Reynolds]

32. And neither is the guy you support.

So don't give me that BS. I have EVERY right in supporting Howard Dean or Wes Clark or even Ralph Nader. This isn't just talk about primaries, it's talk about the person running against George W Bush.

[Renew Deal]

34. Actually it doesn't matter what Clark is.

Because I actually am a Democrat. I can pick whoever I want to represent me and my party. You have no right to interfere with the Democratic party. Remember, when the other outsiders do it, we flip out. You like Dean? That's cool. You want to help out dems? That's OK too. You want to trash the party you don't belong to? That's not OK.

[Sean Reynolds]

38. When did I trash the party?

Jesus you really twist words to fit your logic. I never attacked the Democratic Party. But I don't want to see you trashing the Republican Party ok, since only people inside their party can trash their party. ;-)

[The Magistrate]

25. So What Are You, Mr. Reynolds?

If you are not a Democrat, why should anyone bother with your opinion concerning who the Party should nominate?

A vote for any but the candidate of the Democratic Party in the upcoming general election is, in effect, a vote for the criminals of the '00 Coup, whatever the motivation proclaimed for the act.

[Sean Reynolds]

28. Then why the hell is Clark running for the DEMOCRATIC nomination?

If he wasn't a Democrat up until late last year? By your logic, Mr. Clark has no right running for the party.

And I never said I wouldn't support the candidate from the Democratic Party. So don't put words in my mouth, mka?

[The Magistrate]

43. You Were Asked A Question, Sir

A question seeking to clarify your own statement you were not a Democrat. The consequences of one possible answer were pointed out to you. You have not really, it is worth noting, answered the question, and it remains unclear whether you are instead an Independent or a Green, or affiliated to some other splinter faction.

Gen. Clark was known widely as "Clinton's General" during the last administration, and earned the enmity of many reactionary military figures. Since the end of the Cold War, he has voted for Democratic candidates, and is now registered as a Democrat. You will find very few people outside the local hot-house care much about his past votes. A goodly number of people who voted for Reagan voted for President Clinton; that is a good portion of the reason he won his elections. The reactionaries will not be defeated if a number of people who have formerly voted for them are not induced to vote otherwise this time around.

[Sean Reynolds]

48. We're not talking about past votes.

We're talking about the fact Clark was NOT a registered Democrat up until he ran for president in September. Or whenever it was. But it's none of your business WHAT party I belong to, granted I've said it many times here at DU.

I said something in jest, you all took it as an attack. That is your problem, not mine. Nothing I can do about it.

[The Magistrate]

55. Balderdash, Mr. Reynolds

Your "jest" is mere regurgitation of a well-worn attack line, distinguished mainly by its futility, though that has not discouraged many wielders.

You made your party affiliation a matter for clarification by your own statement, and may be as petulant as you please about it, though why you should be, since you say you have stated it many times, piques my curiousity.

[Sean Reynolds]

58. IF anyone knows me they know I'm not the type to attack.

I take it you don't know my posts.

As for my party affiliation, just check my avatar.

[The Magistrate]

64. Which Splinter, Sir?

Revolutionary Communist?

Workers'?

Barely as many votes as the Pope has armored divisions: not a very serious base for electoral prognostication....

[Sean Reynolds]

67. CPUSA

And it doesn't matter HOW many people support a cause, it's the cause itself that matters.

[Walt Starr]

70. Dean cuts a wide swath

And it's pretty damn deep too!

CPUSA and Republicans both supporting the same candidate.

That was something Pat Buchanan could only dream of in 2000. Dean makes dreams become reality.

[LoZoccolo]

73. Have fun decaying into a common dictatorship!

Look forward to having ya' apologize after you've put ten million people in the ground. :hi:

[Sean Reynolds]

75. Yes.

Well maybe you need to do more research on communism. Then maybe you'd be able to distinguish it from totalitarian socialism.

[LoZoccolo]

76. Doesn't matter what you mean to do...

...if you've seen it fuck up so many times that you should know better.

[Sean Reynolds]

82. Same could be said for capitalistic democracy .

How many LIVES has capitalistic democracy taken?

[LoZoccolo]

94. Long term, it doesn't matter.

Because after you've put away all these people to death and stuff gets intolerable, the communist government collapses and you're left with capitalism again. Except then, people trust government intervention in economies even less and the whole left wing gets damaged. Thanks a lot. :hi:

[Sean Reynolds]

98. There have been no 'true' communist nations.

At least in the form of what Karl Marx wrote about. So you can't really compare the Soviet Union, Cuba, China and North Korea (among others) to what a true communist nation would be like.

[The Magistrate]

79. In The Friendly Confines Of The C.P.U.S.A., Sir

You will be unable to do that yourself....

[OhioStateProgressive]

115. how about just Democratic-Socialism?

i don't mind the CPUSA...I am a member of the SPUSA

[The Magistrate]

74. Ah, Yes....

Till the last industrialist is strangled with the guts of the last preacher....

There are no causes, Sir, without popular following: only hobbies and social clubs....

[Sean Reynolds]

78. Sir, madam, whatever.

I feel like breaking out the tea cups and having ourselves a little tea party. Lemon square?

[The Magistrate]

83. But Mr. Reynolds...

Revolution is not a tea party.

[Sean Reynolds]

84. It sure was in Boston.

[The Magistrate]

92. Stevedore's Job, Sir

Hardly a sit-down, and done without wages to boot....

You are, then, to be taken as against the levying of taxes on luxury items by a government?

[Sean Reynolds]

97. haha

We're not going to get into the whole tax issue here. I do support taxes on luxury items, yes.

But where the tea party might not have been a sit-down, it was rather revolutionary. Just proving anything with tea can be revolutionary. ;-)

[progressivebydesign]

86. Nope.. you're not an attacker.

I've been around here for.. well.. a long time, and Sean has been passionate, but never mean. I remember the mean ones. I think some of us get a bit irritated at the tone DU has taken during this primary bloodletting season. I've never seen such gross behavior since I.. well.. once or twice I snuck over to Freeperville to make myself mad. That is the level to which we've sunk. And, frankly, they're all pretty nice to each other over in Freeperland... we suck.

[Walt Starr]

60. Might I suggest, sir, that Mr. Reynolds has revealed his party affiliation

with his avatar?

One who has the presence of mind to take in all that one sees would know from that avatar what Mr. Reynolds' party affiliation is.

I would suggest that you, sir, did not pay attention to an obvious declaration within each of Mr. Reynolds' posts.

[The Magistrate]

69. Perhaps It Would Be Best Then, My Friend

For me to state my party is not the Red Dragon, but the Democratic Party, if we are to judge these things by emblems displayed. That bit of Orientalism indicates my personal attachment to Confucian and Taoist thought, and there are many reasons a person might employ the emblem Mr. Reynolds does....

[Walt Starr]

91. I suggest, sir, that you pay attention to those who choose that avatar

I have yet to meet one on DU who was not a Socialist or Communist.

[The Magistrate]

96. Radical, Certainly, Of Some Stripe Or Other

But it is a finely fragmented field, and no certain conclusion can be drawn.

[RetroLounge]

105. LOL! That Avatar!

And here I thought it was Walt Whitman...

[rogerashton]

77. Well, as who started this brawl --

I got no problem with Marxists in or out of the Democratic party. (It has taken me about fifty years to begin to understand Marx -- I didn't start trying until I was ten or so -- and wouldn't have gained the late understanding I feel I have but for that great scholar, G. W. Bush* -- who does teach Marxism very capably. )

Nor do I have a problem with Greens, in or out of the Democratic Party, by the way.

Nor with Reynolds. Sure, he's cocky. Whoever wins the nomination, he can take my back in October -- and I'll take his.

[LoZoccolo]

33. The rest of us care and you need to quit.

I understand that not everyone here is going to support Dean. If they don't, I'd rather they put up the kind of elaborate post that the original poster of this thread did; it's quality.

If you want to inundate everyone with cocky posts like these you've just put up, you waste peoples' time. What you're doing here does nothing...except start making DU a waste of everyone's time with this pollution. And that's where things make the rest of us mad, and that's where the rest of us come back at you, like we're doing now, and that's where I gotta pull you aside like a little unruly kid that's embarassing the whole family in public like I'm doing right now. If people stop coming here because of this miserable shit, they won't hear anything you have to say about who they should vote for (I don't really care about that at this point), and they won't hear anything the rest of us have to say...and that makes it our problem, got it?

If you just wanna get that feeling of rooting for something, go watch some sports. This is our place you're fucking with.

And if you think we should just put you on ignore, that begs the question again - why do you even bother posting? Go and think about that and come back like tommorow.

[Sean Reynolds]

44. You're wrong.

I have a right to state my opinion here. Not everyone is going to like it, hell some people are going to hate it. If they want to reply back to me, I don't care. When you post a letter like this on a PUBLIC message board you're going to get good and bad from it. That is the risk of doing something like this. I never attacked the person, I never attacked his candidate. I only said that the guy was going to lose and that I welcomed him in his support for Dean when Dean won the nomination. You can take tha for what it's worth; you can turn it into me attacking a poster/Democratic Party/Clark that is YOUR problem, not mine.

[LoZoccolo]

52. Happy birthday to you.

Hope you have enough of them left to last until the general election!

:hi:

[Sean Reynolds]

54. One.

May.

[LoZoccolo]

57. I didn't mean what you're thinking.

You should have had thirty of them at at the beginning of this year. Like the rest of us.

[Tatiana]

110. Sean you've become downright MEAN.

You do your candidate and yourself a disservice. I've read many posts of yours in the Lounge going way back and this nastiness is so not you.

You're being childish and petty. And please don't use the excuse that "XYZ poster did it to me" or "ABC started it." Take responsibility for your own behavior and actions.

Maybe take a break from GDP2004. I did and it did me a world of good.

[kayleybeth]

51. Thank you, LZ

Very well put. We owe ya one! :hi:

[Clark Can WIN]

45. Wrong

You responded with a taunt. A taunt is not an opinion. Any grade school smart-ass can throw taunts around.

I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?

[Sean Reynolds]

49. Well thanks for proving you're a grade school smart-ass.

[Clark Can WIN]

59. I think it's pretty clear from everything above

exactly who fits that description, and thank you for making it so overtly and abundantly obvious.:thumbsup:

[Sean Reynolds]

61. Yeah...I think it is.

The guy that didn't once attack was attacked back.......

[Clark Can WIN]

71. Or is it the parade rainer who calls himself an ass

and then proves it?

[Sean Reynolds]

87. I didn't rain on anyone's parade.

I stated something in jest to lighten up the mood. Hence the :hi: smiley. If I were really out to bash, I'd of done more than just say he was going to lose in the primaries.

[Clark Can WIN]

93. of course.

you're an angel. You've made it clear.

[Sean Reynolds]

101. Yup. Thank you.

[Dookus]

19. man, that's just shitty....

you really have to piss on someone's choice that way?

[Sean Reynolds]

26. What? I can't give my opinion anymore?

I didn't piss on his choice. I didn't attack him. I just told him to have fun losing and that I'd welcome him back to Dean's side when DEAN won the nomination.

[Walt Starr]

39. I've noticed nobody has paid one iota of attention to your avatar

So I'll ask again, does your friend hold meetings in his RV?

:evilgrin:

Thanks for supporting Dean, Sean. You're about the only non-Democratic (big 'D") supporter of Dean on this board. Most wouldn't have anything to do with DU.

Your participation and example of a non-Democratic supporter of Dean is greatly appreciated.

[Sean Reynolds]

50. haha, why yes he does.

While he's soaking up the sun. ;-)

[rogerashton]

66. That may happen.

n/t

[mikehiggins]

85. And if things don't work out that way

I assume we can expect your heartfelt support of Clark if he wins the nod?

"Anybody But Bush" does not mean "Anybody But Bush Or Clark" or "Anybody But Bush Or Clark"or "Anybody But Bush Or Dean" or "Anybody But Bush Or Kerry" or "Anybody But Bush Or Anyone NOT My Candidate"

It means "Anybody But Bush"

Period. EOM.

[Sean Reynolds]

90. I'd have to go over some things before I supported Clark.

But I'd never rule it out.

[xultar]

2. Welcome aboard!

General Clark and all of his supporters are happy to have you.
If you have any questions just PM one of us here @ DU or go to the Clark Community @ www.clark04.com

Again Welcome...

I also like Kerry. He's pissed me off lately for going negative but all is fair in love and war. So, I still like him.

[TrueAmerican]

3. Clark Is Best

thanks

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. Well spoken

Those were all key factors in my early support of Clark. I like Kerry also, but I actually like Clark more. I think he might not only be a good President, but a great one, capable of leading a divided nation toward a new more progressive direction.

[Jim Sagle]

9. We just don't know who's most electable in advance.

I think Dean and Clark are both electable. It depends on the challenge.

If it's a normal political challenge - even Rove's usual filth - then I believe Dean can handle it better. He's feisty, and more experienced.

If it becomes an EXISTENTIAL challenge - e.g., "Lose the fucking election or we'll feed you and your family through the shredders" - then Clark (or Kerry) might be a better bet.

We live in interesting times.

[kayleybeth]

63. Hi Jim Sagle

That's a good post. Thank you for being civil! :hi:

[Jack_Dawson]

11. Welcome to Wisdom

We welcome everyone who "gets it".

:hi:

[cally]

12. I like your analysis

Welcome aboard. Clark offers a new kind of leadership. I believe he will help create a new America and heal some of the devisiveness in our country. I believe most Americans hold many of the liberal positions Clark have but support the fundie agenda on military and the desire to seem strong. Clark can reach those folks and help pass many progressive initiatives.

[kang]

13. Good reasons to support Clark

Despite the Dean supporter's comments, your reasons for supporting Clark are similar to many Clark supporters. Below are two TNR articles (Editors endorsed Leiberman for their own reasons) that echo your sentiments.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=scoblic011904

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=foreign&s=greene011304

I have nothing against any of the other candidates, but I think we're going to need a leader that can fix our relations with the rest of the world and work with them to make America (and the world) safer. Clark's the obvious choice on this front.

[returnable]

20. Cheers!

First round is on me :toast:

[CWebster]

22. Or until

the wind changes direction again.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

27. Welcome Aboard!

You've picked a winner. You may not be concerned about electability, but IMO Clark is the most electable Democrat, so you're covered anyway. :-)

:toast:

DTH

[windansea]

30. TANK You!

[Qutzupalotl]

31. I recently made the switch as well.

From Dean in my case. I still like all the candidates and believe we have a great field. You really can't go wrong picking any of the nine--they're light-years ahead of Bush. (Okay, maybe Lieberman's only a few feet ahead of Bush, but still. :7)

Your point that perception of Democrats in national defense would improve under a Clark administration is an excellent one.

My one quibble with your post is that Clark's stance on many issues is to the left of Dean. Fortunately, he's less likely to be painted as a far-left liberal by the Rove team. I do consider him the most electable, which was what tipped the scale for me. But I was pleasantly surprised to find his positions on most issues right in line with my own.

Like his stand on education: Don't cut funds of underperforming schools. "No Child Left Behind" is a trojan horse designed to undermine public education. Right on Wes!

[Jack_Dawson]

36. Not bad, kid. Not bad.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

42. Welcome!

I love all people who come to support Clark, but in particular I love pre-July 6, 1000+ posters with a star who switch from Dean, because it makes a mockery of the absurd claims of certain Dean supporters here.

:yourock:

DTH

[rogerashton]

95. Left?

I'm not sure (as I said) that "left" and "right" are very meaningful within the spectrum of American politics. Well-informed pragmatism makes them "further left" only in the sense of "further from G* W* Bush." But I don't think the former governor of Texas is a conservative -- just a power-hungry pol, incompetent to do the job he stole.

I'm a Fabian Socialist. (I posted on that, a while back.) What that means is that it is my conviction that well-informed pragmatism will lead, predictably, more and more to the left. But well-informed pragmatism is a good thing in itself, too, so let's go forward with that.

[_NorCal_D_]

35. Welcome!

Glad to have you! :toast:

[kayleybeth]

47. Welcome!

Glad to have you with us!

GO WES GO!!!!

[Melinda]

68. Ah jeeze.........

[mmonk]

72. Kerry's a good choice

but glad you've come aboard.:toast:

[Killarney]

80. Welcome

:toast:

I am also a Clark supporter, who will support whoever we end up nominating. :)

[progressivebydesign]

81. Clinton had NO military experience..

He kicked ass with our military, and was an exemplary leader. Bush had actually a LITTLE military experience, and he sucked. I'm frightened by so many (apparent) Democrats who will willingly fall behind a last minute convert because he wears a uniform. I don't trust Clark's conversion. I think he did it because he couldn't run as a Republican, and he's pissed at Bush. I don't WANT a military man running the country. I just don't think Clark has done anything but talk about what he would do domestically. I want someone with experience.. not SChool of the AMericas experience.. but domestic experience.

You're certainly entitled to your choice. I just disagree. Clark is too rigid, too military, and too Republican for my taste. And.. really, the way most of his supporters have behaved on DU, makes them look pretty damn Republican, too. The attacks on this board started with Clark supporters, mostly. I know that you are not a closet Republican, but I'm certain a lot of people on DU who have joined in the past few months, and support Clark, are. We used to be a testy, yet happy little family joined by a common cause.. Anyone But Bush.. now it's warfare. I hope you'll continue to rise above that.

[rogerashton]

99. Lincoln had no military experience, either, but

Washington did. Military men have made good and bad (Grant) leaders of the country. We ought not rule out any legal walk of life -- if the General wants to take off his uniform and run, he should be considered on the merits and the needs of the country. Of course a life in the military is going to form the person in many ways. Some commentary has said that his civvies always look like a uniform. They always will. As I said, the capability to put together a team based on competence to achieve an objective seems to me to be very important and needed for the post-Bush* period. That's something that comes from a life in the military, too.

We should not rule a candidate out based on profession, any legal profession. We shouldn't rule out clergy, either. OK, I'm not a great fan of religion, and I understand that a clergyman cannot take her uniform off -- but we should consider the candidate as a person and the needs of the country.

Nor should we rule out a vegetarian, difficult as that is for me. The person and the needs of the country. Whomever.

[xrepub]

88. Good article on Clark

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=foreign&s=greene011304

[kerry-is-my-prez]

89. glad to have you...

n/t

[Toucano]

100. Thank you!

I love your decision. Congratulations and welcome aboard.

[meow mix]

102. yeesh lots of ignores up there, bunched up panties i guess

"Clark is best for the country"

thats exactly what i think too =)
nice post ty.

[nomaco-10]

103. Please give my guy another look

He really is a swell candidate and he's got vision (20/20) and he likes children and old people and even republicans. He's a stand up guy (about 5'8") and he will fight for you all the time. OK?
GO JOE
JOE'S GOT
MOJO
JOE IN 2004
YEAH!!!

[Cuban_Liberal]

104. We cancel each other out.

I just left the Clark campaign.:)

[angee_is_mad]

106. Welcome aboard!!

[Crunchy Frog]

107. Welcome to the Clark camp

I started out as a Dean supporter myself, but I think that Clark is exactly what this country needs right now. I think he would be a statesman rather than just a politician, and could truly bring this country back together in a way nobody else could.

And sorry for the big shitstorm accompanying your announcement. It really isn't fair to you.

[Rowdyboy]

108. Very good piece, Roger

Its a shame some would try to cheapen your comments but what can you expect. You did good! And welcome to the adult side of the bus.

:toast:

[Clark4VotingRights]

109. Thanks rogerashton; that's a really well articulated reason for support.

I think Clark's leadership abilities are reflected in his supporters.
In fact, I think all of the candidates' supporters tend to mirror
the candidate's style.

[MrMoJoeRisin]

111. anyone that would vote for Clark should vote for Joe

Joe has spent the past three decades walking the walk that Wesley Clark likes to talk about.

[IndianaGreen]

112. All of the strife in DU about which candidate said what and when

has reinforced the view that the only straight shooter, and the only real liberal of the bunch, is Dennis Kucinich.

We are doing ourselves a disservice when we fall for the media's lie that Dennis is unelectable. We are the ones that determine electability! If we went along with what we feel to be right, we should be voting for Dennis.

Why do we often hold our noses when we vote on Election Day? Perhaps it is because we don't vote for the best liberal candidates in the primaries...

[FrenchieCat]

113. Welcome to the Clark Side

and I believe with a Clark Presidency, we can all become Americans first again....

The partisanship is exhausting and nothing is getting done that's positive.

Clark is a leader with a vision for America
......and we damn need it!

Have confidence....that's how we've made it so far....plus having the best candidate does help!


Smart DUer!

[RandomUser]

114. You're right about it being more than

I am not considering "electability." I think it is important that we support the best man to be president of the United States.

A lot of people get interested because of "electability," but though they may take a look at Clark because of "electability," that is not the prime reason they stay with Clark. I, too, believe he will make the best president out of the 9 running for the nomination.