Frantic Freepers discussing secession

[GeorgeBushytail]

Ah, the sweet stench of Freepy panic.

Check out the thread. It's called "Secession, Anyone?"

"No topic I write about stirs a more unexpected response than secession — the right of a state to withdraw from the United States. You might think the issue was settled forever in 1865, when the North crushed the South in the Civil War. But many Americans, North and South, still like the idea, and many others nearly panic at the mere mention of it."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1252632/posts

[Hawkeye-X]

1. They can have Idaho.

The most Republican state of the Union. Wyoming too.

[physioex]

5. Ummm....

Yea, but where would they get their welfare from.... :shrug:

[movonne]

19. Idaho and Wyoming just to beautiful to let them have...they will spoil

it in 5 years.

[molly]

143. Please remember that if we don't stop global warming

those states may be prime property for ocean front.

[donco6]

2. Well, they never remember history anyway.

I'm surprised they got 1865 right.

[GeorgeBushytail]

70. They hate to remember 1865. The Freeper heartland lost bigtime.

[0rganism]

99. This is not 1865, and the left-right split is urban-rural, not geographic

If the shit goes down, we are starting with a tactical and logistical disadvantage.

[crispini]

135. Exactly. Very rational point.

All these blue urban areas...

[amber dog democrat]

3. Let them have Kansas while we are at it.

My EX came from there. but instead of carving off part of the US, why can't they move to Iwo Jima ?

[w13rd0]

15. there's LOTS of room at the bottom of the sea...

...I say they should move there.

[amber dog democrat]

24. LOL!

Excellent suggestion !
Marianas Trench ? But we are concenred about pollution.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

48. How about the Planet MARS?

Doesn't Bush have thoughts of privatizing Mars?

[4_Legs_Good]

104. This solar system isn't big enough for the both of us.

If they want to travel to another solar system, though, be my guest(s)

david

[soggy]

120. nah, not kansas...

too much land to build a wall around...

i suggest an island... maybe one of them south of the mainland of alaska. they couldn't bug us too much up there.

[atommom]

146. No, not Kansas. Needs to be an island, in shark-infested

waters, with an impermeable dome over it to prevent escape. If they're going to secede, they need to go far away while they're at it!

[aden_nak]

4. One of them quoted the Articles of Confederation.

That scares the SHIT out of me.

[CottonBear]

28. If you think that freeper discussion is scary

then you should actually experience living among backwards, racist, neo-confederate wingnuts like we have here in Georgia. They wear confederate flag gear, use the N word frequently and are always spouting off about the south rising again, guns and god. Even the more well-off suburban types sport confederate flag stickers on their SUVs.

[dave123williams]

43. The real kicker is that they're allowed to vote...

[Czolgosz]

102. Naw! Most of them fall within the felony exclusion from the voting rolls

[doni_georgia]

60. Yup, Cotton Bear - I was thinking the same thing

[apnu]

58. It shouldn't scare -- it should terrify you.

In the South, to many, the war never ended. And that hatred of the Northerner (and the negro, to use their term) is still very intense. In many ways, the endless cycle of racism in America is recycled forever down there because of this palpable hand-me-down racism and resentment over the Civil War.

Hell, I know of people down there who use the Confederate Flag as a table cloth. People who cite that stuff, the people who fight to keep the old South alive are, probably, more scary than anything else in America today.

Talk about not getting over it. Sheesh.

[yardwork]

149. Ok, knock it off with the steretyping!

I've lived in the North and the South and witnessed an equal amount of bigotry on both sides of Mason-Dixon. I've also witnessed a lot of wonderful generosity on both sides.

Just because the electoral college paints states red or blue, doesn't mean that the whole state feels one way or the other. Nearly half the populations of all those red states voted for Gore in 2000. Nearly half the population of California voted for Bush.

Please stop with the geographic stereotyping.

[CottonBear]

152. Stereotype this: I was shot at by Deliverance people.

While on a drive to visit a wild and scenic river in TN, my (black) boyfriend and I encountered some backwoods racists with guns at the ready in case they saw any black men with white women. We were greeted with "Hey! N_____" and that was followed up with a gun blast at us as we drove away as fast as we could. I was terrified. My boyfriend was former military but this scared the crap out of him too. To top things off, he is the citizen of another country. What a way to show those foreigners how great our country is.

[petronius]

127. Why is that scary?

The Articles of Confederation was the precursor to the U.S> Constitution, and was replaced when the Constitution was ratified in 1788. Are you thinking of the CSA constitution?

[aden_nak]

142. Yes, I know.

But they are quoting the Articles of Confederation as if they are the governing document of the land. I studied quite a bit of Constitutional Law when I was in college, and personally I always thought that our first draft at a government lacked focus. But to quote it as if it has a legally binding authority bothers me. Mostly because it is telling of how hard they looked for ANY justification.

[displacedtexan]

6. Let 'em go.

They'd never survive without Blue State financial support.

They could call their new country Roanoke.

[tedoll78]

13. lol! Roanoke!

And the thing is, most Freepers wouldn't get that joke.. lol..

[6th Borough]

78. So true.

"They'd never survive without Blue State financial support."

They couldn't sustain the REAL Civil War without the North's industrial base.

Some learn the hard way.

[johnnyrocket]

7. That would be GREAT! Have them GET THE FUCK OUT

of our country.

[durablend]

20. YES YES YES...LEAVE ALREADY!

WE'LL GLADLY HOLD THE DOOR FOR YOU

[Out the Parasites]

63. send them off in a leaky canoe...and when they come crying back...

as they try to invade our country...nuke the shit out of them.

My passive side says...no, just detain them for days and send them back to China or wherever. My devil side says...try the leaky canoe again.

[0rganism]

67. Perhaps you're not in tune with the freeper mentality, but...

...they are not going to "get the fuck out", they'll try to take as much of it with them as they can. And if that means putting the urban liberals and minorities in extermination camps, well, they seem to enjoy that kind of thing.

And us? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. With relatively few exceptions, we're just not prepared to handle it. We'd be the Jews in their Warsaw ghettos, thinking every day that it's gotten as bad as it could possibly get, until our families and neighbors are executed by roving death squads in view of our dying eyes.

[prodigal_green]

83. take the cities?

Um, no, I don't think so. They'd do what yokels always do in cities--walk too damn slowly and stop right in front of subway entrances.

We would not go quietly.

[0rganism]

95. Yes, take the cities

It would NOT be hard, and they'd hardly have to set foot inside. Blow up the power transmission lines, suburban water towers, and sewage treatment centers. Blockade the major highways and screw up any train tracks. Blammo.

No food. No clean water. No power. No garbage removal. No fuel.

They'd have us in quite the stranglehold, and they'd just be getting started.

Remember, these fanatical lunatics have been planning for this in their fascistic militia groups for decades, just waiting for an excuse to pull the switch. Democratic urbanites are woefully unprepared for this kind of scenario. More than half of us don't even know how to fire a rifle, let alone own one. We don't know jack shit about hunting, squad tactics, or wilderness survival.

If you plan to stand against these eager murderers, you'd better high-tail it down to your local gun show and pick up an AK-47. Get together with your like-minded buddies, and start training with them now. For your sake, at least one of them better be a combat veteran who knows his stuff, because we are going to be at a serious disadvantage if it comes to paramilitary fighting.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

88. Speak for yourself.

I am an armed liberal, living with my armed liberal veteran husband in Texas. We know freepers. Hell, we are related to some, unfortunately. We'd have no problem defending ourselves.

[0rganism]

98. Hey, I AM speaking for myself, and millions more like me

You and your hubby are NOT the norm. Start combat training your political friends and like-minded neighbors, maybe it will help if the worst happens. By and large, we've seriously neglected arming and organizing for this eventuality, and it's going to hurt us when the shooting starts.

[CAcyclist]

154. WE would shut the streets down

not them and we'd do it on bicycles. I am not impressed with them.

[amber dog democrat]

136. Another armed liberal in Texas

We also have no problem defending ourselves either. I know a few more like us and I would be happy to train others in the basics.

I would prefer it not come to this all the same.

[grace0418]

8. I just started a topic concerning this over in Gen Disc.

I thought it seemed like a pretty good idea. I even came up with same names and slogans for them.


Name: Bushland or Fundieland

Where everything is a sin but nothing is a crime.
Where it's every man for himself and every woman should keep her mouth shut.
Where the Bible is the Constitution unless it gets in the way of making money.
Where justice knows no color because well, there won't be anyone of color here (not even you Alan Keyes).
Where every unborn child has a right to life because we need somebody to fight and die in our illegal wars.

Got any more to add?

[arewenotdemo]

100. that's a pretty good list to start

[cheshire]

9. Have at and call it For Whites Only you hateful crazy morons.

[Bunny]

40. The minute they secede, we'll slap a trade embargo on 'em!

Let those ignorant fucks figure out how to support themselves!

:evilgrin:

[MazeRat7]

10. There was a movement to do that here in Texas a few years back

They all ended up getting arrested and thrown in jail basically.

MZr7

[kwolf68]

11. Big difference

I have noticed a HUGE difference between Liberals and Conservatives when either is desperate and frustration with the plight of America

Conservatives talk of secession

Liberals talk of simply moving away


One is confrontational and would destroy the United States, the other is simply grounded in apathetic pacifism and harms no one or anything. ---I am not supporting moving to Canada if Bush won, but whenever the idea is broached that is what is usually the most radical option.

[w13rd0]

17. good

point

[6th Borough]

80. Git off MAH LAND!

Move? Of course they would never contemplate that.

[rockymountaindem]

12. What can I say?

That's some messed up crap. I'd rather struggle to make my country better than to admit that the American experiment in democracy has failed.

[movonne]

14. Put them all in Texas and bring our TX dems to the North, I'm all

for it...lets see which one does the best....

[AnIndependentTexan]

31. Well I'm up for the move. I hate the summers here anyway

[amber dog democrat]

33. Lets make it Southwest Texas

Let them have Midland, Odessa, Lubbock, Sweetwater .... and El Paso.

[crispini]

51. WROD.

As long as we get to keep the Hill Country.

"It's a looooooooooong way / Back to El Paso."

[Czolgosz]

103. I just spent 2 weeks in Odessa. I'd say "they can have it" but

from my experience, they already do. But I'm partial to Corpus Christi.

[NoPasaran]

117. I'm not going to deny that El Paso is a hell hole

But it is the most Democratic city in Texas. Good food too. Midland, Odessa and the rest---ugh!

[rullery]

37. Yes, send Bush back, and then return Texas to Mexico.

Perhaps our illegal aliens would care to settle in Texas too.

[movonne]

39. Perhaps !!!

[amber dog democrat]

42. umm does it have to be ALL of Texas ?

I am happy to give them Houston.

[Czolgosz]

105. Let's don't be giving it all away. Just the god-awful parts. Let's

keep Houston, for example, if for no other reason than the Astros. Austin's a keeper. Fort Worth has some nice museums. There's nice surfing, sailing, and fishing in Corpus Christi. The San Antonio riverwalk has its charms. Let's don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

89. Hey I'm game for that

if anyone wants to sponsor a good liberal Texan family. We'd even move to Minnesota. Anywhere where good liberals live.

We could do an exchange program. Send an out of place freeper family here in exchange for a good liberal family to move there (there being a very blue state).

But on the whole, I'd rather try to get Texas blue again. It's my state, too, dammit.

[onenote]

16. they should move to baghdad

since they all think its such a paradise now.

onenote

[Hubert Flottz]

50. No we're trying to "Democratize" Iraq!

Where they're all headed an air conditioner won't do them any good, but they'll be among like minds! Here's a Clue: :evilgrin:

[rhino47]

18. Cut pa in half .They can have the mouth breathing central pa

As I am ashamed to say that my state put insantaruim in the senate

[DebJ]

25. only three more years and we can get him out. I'm starting on that

November 3. Got a list of all voters in my district. Gonna follow Santorum and keep everyone informed and try to get him emailed and phone called to total distraction.

Deb in York
(ps-I'm from Maryland this is my first experience living in Republicland. Eew! Although everyone I work with can't wait to vote Bush out...)

[GoneOffShore]

29. Yeah we all got

santorum on our shoes
http://www.spreadingsantorum.com

[demokatgurrl]

65. Yep, that's my senator. n/t

[rndmprsn]

21. Red states are welfare states

ilove how they re-invent history to match their warped view...i won't go into that right now, but this obvious lie i had to call out...

-snip-

How about the Red states KICK OUT the Blue ones ;-).

We are better armed and wealthier. AND WE keep the constitution and the rule of law.

FMCDH?

;-)

-snip-

the truth is that the red states are welfare states, in that they recieve more federal dollars than they pay out...alabama is the worst offender which nets $100.1 BILLION in federal dollars...here is a qoute from the metro vs retro site:

"Metro America, with 34 percent of the land mass, has 65 percent of the population, with a density of 151 persons per square mile. Metro America produces the majority of the nation’s tax revenue, but some $200 billion a year of Metro taxes flow to Retro states and support the economic life of its small cities, towns, and rural areas.:

check it: http://www.retrovsmetro.org/retrovsmetro/

so make sure to tell all the freeperbots that they are the welfare states...see how they like that...facts are a bitch sometimes.

[Malikshah]

87. THANK YOU!!! That is the key

Sure-- let the bastards go. They'll be neck deep in poverty and the like in no time at all. Soon the less populous states among them will want to secede and make little militia run "countries"

Oh, what fun it will be.

We can all pop some popcorn and watch as they go down the tubes one by one.

Trash pickup? It stays in their country
Nuclear waste? It stays in their country

Big old walls around each of them...

I'm just getting too giddy thinking about the possibilities--it's better than Jerry Springer and reality TV all rolled into one!!!

PLEASE secede!!! Pretty please!!!!

[Hippo_Tron]

124. Edit n/t

n/t

[rockydem]

22. good - I'm sick of sharing my country with those hatemongers

I no longer want to call them my fellow citizens.

[siliconefreak]

23. They're never happy

It's not enough that the right-wing is in control of the White House, the Senate, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court, and most of the governor's offices. They still think that liberals are in control and have too much power!

I'm not sure whether to laugh at them or to diagnose them with extreme paranoia.

[Wind Dancer]

45. They are angry people, always will be!

[dave123williams]

26. Let's start by burning Atlanta again...

[amber dog democrat]

35. Where is Tecumsa Sherman when we need him. ??

Make Georgia howel !!

[doni_georgia]

62. Yo, wait a minute - Atlanta is one Dem haven in the south

As a native-Atlantan, I would prefer we give these nutfucks some place off shore please.

[dave123williams]

93. Iraq is nice this time of year; if they're so for it then...

Why not go?

[MsTryska]

150. Word......

move them to Alabama.

Best thing to come out of Alabama is I-20, in any case.

[DebJ]

27. secession.....are they giving up? Good. Mars is available.

[amber dog democrat]

38. There is come cheap real estate in NCG 1644 too

The Pleades may be a really good place to raise repug kids.

[amber dog democrat]

53. then the red states become the RED PLANET

Will they ever attack us ?
Republican Invaders from Mars !! Scarey thought.

[Eye and Monkey]

118. Martians Already Saying "Yankee Go Home!" - PHOTO

[VOX]

30. Someone over there claims that the Red States are "contigous" (sic)

Not sure if they mean that they're all in proximity to one another, or if they're miffed that they won't be getting their flu shots! :)

[6th Borough]

81. Well, they could take Oklahoma northwards to North Dakota

The Native Americans would probably not be too pleased though. Hey, they could play Cowboys and Injuns again!:silly:

[greendeerslayer]

122. I'll trade in my cowboy hat...

...for some moccasins and side with the indians.

[Warren DeMontague]

32. Don't Let The Door Hitcha On The Ass On The Way Out!!!

:hi:

[Neshanic]

34. Bill Maher had a good one for this in an interview.

He said that he was perplexed at the south Red states always talking about Patriotism, God and country, when these were the states that told the Union to screw off and became traitors when they started the civil war.

[LoZoccolo]

36. Why do they hate America? n/t

[colonel odis]

41. i always loved andrew jackson's response to the threat of secession

he said he'd go down to south carolina and hang their leaders from the highest tree and let everyone else see what happens to those who threaten to break up the union.

i say let the freepers move. it's our country much more than it's theirs.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Fuckin Nutjobs.

"We are better armed and wealthier. AND WE keep the constitution and the rule of law"

Righty-o, Cletus. Good thing there's no Nuclear weapons coming out of Livermore Labs... Or Money on that podunk island of Manhattan.

Fuckin' toothless inbred dipshits. Why do I even bother.


"We're Contigous, Dermmit!"

[SemiCharmedQuark]

76. LOL!

Richer huh? So why in Texas do they have a "rent to own" program for freaking car tires?

[Carni]

46. Fine by me!

I wish they would form their own country... then I wouldn't have to intermingle with the bastards or have their vile views shoved down my throat!

[Arkana]

47. Let em

To restate the words of a DU administrator (Hate Mailbag):

Call us when you want in on the free health care.

[Im_Your_Huckleberry]

49. see ya...

...and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[AntiCoup2K4]

52. Let them all move to the largest RED state...

HELL!! :evilgrin:

[Crunchy Frog]

54. I'm all for it!

Let them create the theocratic, banana republic, neocon utopia that they dream of, and leave the rest of us alone.

[Kahuna]

55. I hope they do. Most of the money is in the blue states.

nt

[DaveSZ]

66. Most of these people can't spell:

"Kick out the Blue states.. let them faorm their own liberal union. We will make Crawford Tx the Capital! And move Austin Tx to NY.



28 posted on 10/21/2004 2:33:57 PM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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[Demfromct]

56. He should be arrsted for treason

The even notion that the freeper is advocating secession should have him thrown in jail. He is an anti-government radical and a danger to the u.s.a.

[expatriate]

57. I say they can have the Badlands.

Or Wellsboro, Pennsylvania. Some of the real good-ole-boys there actually develop SCURVY in the winters due to their unhealthy dietary habits. They make the folks in Deliverance Country look like Oxford dons.

[6th Borough]

84. Badlands are a national treasure.They would turn it into a SUPERwalmart/NT

[demokatgurrl]

59. Oh please do it please,

Take all the red states and go.
:hi:

[Sparkly]

61. Fine, I got 3 words for them: NO FOREIGN AID

Blue states subsidize red states. Overall, we pay more federal taxes than we get back; red states overall get more back than they pay in.

Let 'em secede -- and NO foreign aid!!

[Nerdling]

75. RUN AWAY!

They caught us looking! RUN AWAY!

p.s. Southerners, I've got the number of a great dentist.

[Jacobin]

64. Ship'em back into their mother's wombs

Or force them back into the reptile eggs they hatched from

[ThoughtCriminal]

68. Will slavery be legal there?

nt

[bain_sidhe]

69. Great! Think of all the good we could do with the money

we don't have to spend on those red welfare states anymore!

[Name removed]

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[Bucky]

73. okay, that's weird.

Dude, lighten up.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

72. Good. It'll be like when the British deported their convicts.

Good riddence. They can pick up and go start over wherever they like.

[K8-EEE]

74. From CA: I Say; BUH BYE To Dead Weight Red States!!

Hell we get back something like 77 cents to every dollar we give the Feds & most of the red states get back MORE than a buck...plus my Prez vote means almost nothing and I have to live with the Deliverance/700 Club idiots electing national leaders.

BYE FREEPERS!! DON'T SLAM THE DOOR ON THE WAY OUT!

[Anarcho-Socialist]

77. If the Red States want out to form their 'Confederacy', let them go

I'll cry no tears for them.

Their GDP will be dwarved by that of the Union.

Their anti-union laws will mean a much lower standard of living. The Confederacy would have to gut all its government spending OR hike taxes to make up for the shortfall of subsidization from the Blue States.

The Confederacy's schools will be the poorest in the Western Hemisphere and its people the most poorly educated.

[Nerdling]

79. Redwoods

Right chaps...

Whose up for hanging some freepers from a really big tree like Andrew Jackson would.

[ProgressiveFool]

82. "W is coming with US!"

Thought it was a bad idea until I heard that.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

85. W would never want to be near those people--remember who his base is

Hillbillies don't cotton much to golf courses

[okieinpain]

86. one of the nuts thinks the red states are wealthier. hahahaha!!

"How about the Red states KICK OUT the Blue ones ;-).

We are better armed and wealthier. AND WE keep the constitution and the rule of law. "

[The empressof all]

90. Let them have Nevada!

Right after we dump all the Nuclear Waste there.

[Trajan]

91. FUCK Secession ! .... IF THEY dont like America ...

THEY can fucking LEAVE IT ! ....

America ? .. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT ! ....

Fucking hypocrites ! ...

[Anarcho-Socialist]

92. One of the posters on the FR thread mentioned taking wealthy

Blue States ports by force. I think San Diego was mentioned. It looks like they're gearing up for a war of conquest straight after secession.

EDIT: If they do start a 2nd war, they'll lose this one too.

[CAcyclist]

159. San Diego? Where there's a Navy Base?

What are they going to use? Tractors on rafts?

[AnIndependentTexan]

94. Why is it when they screw things up they are always the first to run?

[JPace]

96. I heard that there is already a movement to take over

the state of South Carolina because it is already
dominated by the Christian right. I say let them,
it would be a great lesson for the rest of the
nation to watch as they their population regresses
into something resembling the Taliban.

[CottonBear]

101. They should get only some of South Carolina...

We should get to keep all of the state parks, the barrier islands, the college towns and the coastal cities. I could never let them have my beloved Hunting Island State Park.

[greendeerslayer]

123. I think it was Lincoln...

...who said, "South Carolina, too small to be a country, to large to be a lunatic asylum."
But seriously folks, the freepers hate arabs and secularism, they could move to Israel and take part in another land grap just like their ancestors did!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

97. The Dems can keep Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley,

the Caltech Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Cornell, Columbia, Julliard, the Smithsonian, Carnegie Hall, the Guggenheim Museum, the Metropolitain Museum of Art, et al. The Pukes can have Branson and the NASCAR circuit.

[Lexingtonian]

106. there's a place for them

It's called: Alberta.... :D (Sorry, ye civilized people of Calgary and Edmonton and Banff. Maybe we can partition off the Rockies and the taiga parts.) And I love the idea of calling their new 'colony' Roanoke :D

I think they need a refresher course on the story of the Montana Freemen and the 'redeclared Republic of Texas' silliness.

Oh, by the way, the federal Constitution of 1789 is the law of the land, not the 1861 Confederate rewriting/bastardization of it. It's a point that has never sunk in with this crowd. Btw, a lot of rich Confederates went into exile in Mexico and Britain in 1865- another repeat of history we'll be seeing take place in a few years....

[Geek_Girl]

107. I have a different perspective I guess

I live in the south and I would say the freeper mentality is hurting southerners. We have a higher rate of poverty and uninsured. In rural towns 1 and 5 homes has a methamphetamine labs and yet people who live in broken down trailers will put up a Bush Cheney sign in their yard. Ignorance breeds poverty and they seem to have plenty of both.

But yet they keep buying into the fear mongering and racism that the GOP seems to have cultivated over the past 40 years. Religious leaders in the communities play a major role in this. These people are very spiritual and they listen heavily to their preachers who preach on the wedge issues from the pulpit.

They rarely venture outside their hometowns and have a very narrow perspective of the world. They’re not bad people, they’re just ignorant. I hear this kind of succession talk all the time around the lunch table at work (and I work with professionals) sometimes I think they believe it. But then I realize this is part of their culture it’s deeply embedded into their psyche by their family, friends and like minded people around them. They only way to counter this is by informing them of the issues and offering a different perspective. We need to reach out to these people not isolate them more.

[Mountainman]

108. I like the way freepers try to write so eloquently about a stupid topic

This guy seems to think that enough people really think like he does. He's a disillusioned idiot.

[jdots]

109. do yourselves a favor DON'T GO THERE !

i got there by mistake one day and almost killed myself.WE CAN SOLVE THIS without hitting the streets against each other.The math is on our side without a middle class thier profits go down the toilet,they're to dumb to see it now but entropy is here to stay.

[Iceburg]

110. Can we donate to the Secede Fund ... do they have a PayPal account?

Do you have to to be an American citizen to donate?
When will they leave?
Can we push up the date if we offer them GM "Cherios" (albiet stale)??

[librechik]

111. They can't have Colorado! They'll have to go through me!

"contigous" my ass!!

[Roland99]

112. That second reply is a lunatic!!

How about the Red states KICK OUT the Blue ones ;-).

We are better armed and wealthier. AND WE keep the constitution and the rule of law.

Uhh...the Blue states were like New York, California. You know....New York...Manhattan...financial center of the world? California, economy larger than most other nations?



And, THEY keep the Constitution and rule of law? It still boggles my mind why no one in the Bush administration has been brought up on charges yet!!

[ThoughtCriminal]

113. Space Ark

I suggest the same ship that the telephone sanitizers are on.

[rhyfeddu]

114. This is an ALARMING thread, but not why you think...

I've happily "lurked" thru DU for some time now, getting a sorely needed dose of hope, and to see some "Amen, somebodies" - but I never thought to become a member and post until this thread...

Because I was so appalled at the tone of the whole thing: "Fine! Get out of OUR country!", etc. etc. HUH???? This is the same reactionary "love it or leave" crap we're supposed to loath!!

Coupled with this urban-centric "everything rural is crap, they can have it, the toothless hicks" (paraphrasing), I was wondering which group I was actually safest seeing in the White House come the new year...

My family is Appalachian, and this easy derision from so called "progressives" has been a constant heartbreaking slap in the face over the years. I would remind you all (since I just saw it signing up), that there are rules in this forum against "rude and bigoted" behavior. I guess your cartoon "Cletus" notion of anyone outside of metro America doesn't deserve that consideration

This is my first post. It probally won't make me the poplular kid in the lunch room. But getting razzed for our side at the expense of others not like you doesn't seem very liberal to me. Sorry.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

121. If you have lurked here, then you know that people here have the upmost

respect for hardworking families. These are not the people to whom we are referring. We are referring to FREEPERS. You should know what that means. A Freeper is defined by the mind, not the financial situation or geographical location.

Secondly, THEY want to leave. Why? Because they don't want a country that accepts everyone. They want a society where you are persecuted if you are not a white protestant male. This is NOT what our constitution says. They don't have respect for the constitution and they want to leave. We're not talking about disagreeing with the leader. They want to cause violence and openly encourage it.

Finally most of the people on this thread are being sarcastic. You should get used to that if you intend to stay.

Welcome to DU

[rhyfeddu]

128. Sarcasm?

I know sarcasm. Sarcasm is a very good friend of mine. And that wasn't (just) sarcasm...

Oh, yeah, I agree that it started (rightfully) ridiculing the freep who made the comment, and any who would agree with him (too many). But, I still maintain it degenerated into a "stupid hick" thread. (Do I need the Cletus picture back?) And I still (strongly) maintain that I observe that attitude far too often in "progressives".

No, sorry, I'm not a pokey, over-sensitive wanker - or I wouldn't have lingered here as long as I have. I get the jokes. Just didn't think some of these were very funny. Just made me recoil.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

129. There are many southerners on DU that are well respected

Again, it is the attitude that is being attacked, not the location.

[rhyfeddu]

148. And some of my best friends are black (or gay, or..)

I'm glad DU has respected southern members. But because you have southern friends with your same ideals, doesn't make up for offensive crap elsewhere...

Its not your fault. Rural people are such an accepted punch line, good people don't even notice. Imagine if people were discussing inner city problems or politics and posted a wacky black-face minstrel pic mocking the unfortunates living in that situation or area...Don't think so.

Sorry, that Cletus picture burns me, especially. Yep, rural people have bad teeth. Some are even ignorant. Don't talk too good neither. That's called POVERTY. Pretty hilarious stuff...

I'm just looking for people to CONSIDER that one of their favorite punch lines are real people. Even if they vote (ick) Republican. Go back and read the thread with an open mind. (Uh, I believe the word "inbred" was used in this, for instance).

Fine - make fun of the attitude, the stupid politics, of those misguided in the red states...It just blows when we're reduced to using insulting stereotypes to make the case. How are we better, then?

[George_S]

153. That, sir...

Is a bigoted slight against pokey, over-sensitive wankers thoughout the world.

[LuminousX]

158. It's called calling their bluff... they don't have the numbers to secede

no state in the union would even consider it. They are currently having a militia mentality and assume just because there is a great swathe of empty land that supports Bush that somehow that entitles them to something more. That even if a majority of the people of the country want Kerry, they deserve to keep their conservative hatemongering ways and reject Kerry.

Be offended all you want, I'm not here to appease.

[CAcyclist]

163. Whatever

Another person with Appalachian ties. How predictable.

[mmonk]

115. why would they want secession?

They control everything.

[geniph]

116. Are they incapable of researching the facts?

Have they any idea how quickly the neo-Confederacy would become a third world nation? Hell, without California alone, the U.S. would be hurtin' for certain. California has the world's fifth-largest economy! Have they not the slightest idea what it would mean to have the likes of Oklahoma and Mississippi and not have California and New York in their economy?

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[Eye and Monkey]

119. Facts? facts?

Freepie-people don't LIKE facts.

[gordianot]

125. Does this mean Lincoln would have been a Democrat?

[vetwife]

131. Lincoln was technically ..They switched sides after reconstruction

I think I am right about this .

[gordianot]

133. I agree.

The early Republican party has always represented big business and banking interests. I do find it amazing that the nutcase wing of the Republican Party would consider secession.

We are much too polarized. I feel Bush is the most dangerous man to inhabit the planet, but I still respect the Constitution and do not advocate dissolution of the Union. I agree with Lincoln's solution in that case.

No matter the outcome I will follow the winner of this election and the directions of my candidate John Kerry.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

126. Wonderful idea, just like the Rapture

Think of what a wonderful planet/country we would have if the fundies/freepers vanished/seceded one day.

[AnIndependentTexan]

132. sad thing is someone just as stupid as them would pop up

We are always going to have someone at there level of thinking.

[vetwife]

130. Go already..find a Reservation called Freeperville/Build a Wall !

I want the Native Americans Back with us and off the reservations if that is what they want ! America..The first land we occupied after we stole.

[Nicholas_J]

134. The funny part is

That while liberals could become expatriots and be relatively happy in most industrialized nations on earth, there is no industrialized nation on the planet that these people could go to that is backwards enough to them to feel comfortable in.

Even funnier, most of them would yowl if they had to actually go back to the pre FDR past that they continually call for,as most of them would be working in sweat shops, along with their kids, would not be able to afford the trucks they keep their stars and bars or gunracks on.Would not be able to own their own homes at all and would likely be tenement dewllers

Many of the older people with the freeper mentality that I know have mainly gotten comfortable in life by taking advantage of every benfit that resulted from democratic and liberal initiatives, and not from anything remotely created by Republicans.

[molly]

145. Last nite on Hardball - Tweety touched on this

he said that we are regressing instead of progressing - most of the countries with relgion as their focus are regressing at an incredible rate. We have not used words such as "beheading" - "warlord", etc in centuries.

[LynnTheDem]

137. All I'd say is...

Buh BYE! Don't let the door hit your stoopid moran asses. And DON'T CALL US when you're screwed.

[Dem2theMax]

138. OK, here's an idea. Send every single one of them to Alaska.

Alright, I know Alaska is beautiful and unspoiled, for the most part. And I don't want to ruin it. But if the freepers get Alaska, we get the lower 49. :) :)

Alaska has everything they want. Lots of land to hunt and shoot. Oil. Room to spread out. NO Dems. I'm guessing of the people who MOVE there, it's mostly white, just the kind of folk they want to hang out with. We would of course, have to save special areas for the natives in Alaska.

And just think. Freepers are so stupid, they won't know when to come in when it gets too cold. So next thing you know, we'll have 'frozen freepers.' Eventually they will all 'freeze off' and we can bring Alaska back into the fold.

In the meantime, we can all be cleaning up the mess in the lower 49 and get it all healthy again. sigh. I like my crazy dreams. lol.

[Guava Jelly]

139. I say fence off texas turn it it to a retard preservation/landfill

Spirit all non nuckledragging texans out and catapult all the knuckle dragging kooliadeAholics over the fence and pipe in nothing but Barry Manilow and John Tesh over the loud speakers.
Do I sound like a Nazi????

[Dem2theMax]

140. I wrote too soon. Should have gone over there to read first. ick.

Good news:

To: Se7eN
W is coming with US!

30 posted on 10/21/2004 2:35:06 PM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)


Joke of the day:

To: churchillbuff
This nation will eventually split up. Multiculturalism has begun the division. It is inevitable. People gravitate to people of their own kind. It is human nature. It has nothing to do with racism.

People just feel more comfortable around people of their own kind, class, etc. People are not all the same we are all unique. There is good and bad in all kinds of people. The sooner we accept that, the better off we will all be.

50 posted on 10/21/2004 2:48:24 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)


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OK, excuse me while I go wash out my eyes and brain. Don't you just feel the IQ go down a LOT when you leave here and go there?

[LynnTheDem]

141. How hilarious that they think BUSH the Harvard/Andover/multi-millionaire

RICH RICH RICH man is "their own kind" and "their own class", LOL!!!

Suuure, bush will have the freepers all over for TEA on his YACHT.

Don't THINK so. Freepers sure are racist bigots. Stoopid, too.

[molly]

144. This has always confused me - can't they read?

why don't they know that the Bushes have been wealthy and aloof for generations?

[pdx_prog]

147. one person

said they could all live in Texas.....what did Texas ever do to them?....lol

[IChing]

151. Read this from the site

"Kick out the Blue states.. let them faorm their own liberal union. We will make Crawford Tx the Capital! And move Austin Tx to NY."


I'm afraid that's what we're up against
intellectual monkies

[LuminousX]

155. I see they haven't joined Reality yet.

They think the Red States are richer... Hmmm, I think California, New York, Illinois, and Washington might have something to say about that.

[ogradda]

156. good

tey can take their president with them.

[jsw_81]

157. Let them go

I am sick and tired of this country being held back by anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-progress Bible-thumpers who want to take us back to the 15th century.

Let them have their pathetic third-world theocracy -- we'll crush them later on.

[LuminousX]

160. We'd have the entire Pacific ports

But would have to work out a deal with Canada to link the two coasts via rail.

[streakr]

161. NO they want to kill liberals!

As a sports shooter and resident of several southern states I have heard this krap all the time. The fascist, pseudo-patriotic, john-birch loving, turner-diary reading wackos REALLY want to kill US! They can't wait until the hunting season on liberals is open and they want our heads hanging on their walls.

They have been hoodwinked by the political/religious right (AND the corporate owners of the Repugnican party). They believe the repugs will protect their 2nd Amendment rights; if the corporate owners of the right wing want the 2nd Amendment repealed (and eventually they will!) this will happen with light speed!!!!

I'm a proud GUN-OWNING LIBERAL and will never be intimidated by these ignorant assholes. Let 'em come to my door. This "prey" hunts back.
All of us need to realize the far right fringe can never be at peace with the left or even the center. They hate us, think WE are the enemy and want us GONE.

Go to a gun show sometime and look at the literature that is sold there. Then you'll want to buy a gun (and should have lots of choices!). I recommend a 12 ga.pump shotgun with 24" barrel for you new gun owners. Be sure to pick up 5-6 boxes of low recoil shells (not magnums). Then go to a range and practice. Learn to load it in the dark and where the safety is located. Sometimes the SOUND of the slide will run these punks off.

More to the point: we really need more manufacturing jobs in this country to get some of these nutjobs working productively. They're simple, but mislead people who need simple lives with an objective. Give 'em good jobs and they'll be content to watch Faux, football and "reality" TV and consume prodigious quntities of beer and cholesterol. When they have to compete they're lost and susceptible to demogogues who shamelessly and, more importantly, shamefully use them.

streakr

[janx]

162. Not another one...!

Threads about civil war, sessession, etc. seem to be rampant there (if the posts about them here are any indication).