The last debate * said something that caught my ear...

[Democrat 4 Ever]

and no one has brought it up since. The scream fest on Hardball tonight jogged my memory. The question in the third debate was about religion and Kerry as a Catholic, etc. Okay, what BoyGeorge kinda slid right by and not one has raised since the debate, Bush wants to reduce abortion but he also thought we should go back to a system of funding and promoting unmarried women going to homes for unwed mothers. Here is what he said,

"What I'm saying is, is that as we promote life and promote a culture of life, surely there are ways we can work together to reduce the number of abortions: continue to promote adoption laws -- it's a great alternative to abortion -- continue to fund and promote maternity group homes; I will continue to promote abstinence programs."

Why isn't every person in the United States kicking and screaming and yelling about returning to the Draconian practice of shuttling off young girls to group homes to have their babies? This is progress? This is America in the 21st century? I am aghast that El Stupido could even suggest it. I remember those days in the 1960s when young girls disappeared for weeks and months only to return back to school with a mantle of shame hung around their necks and a haunted look in their eyes.

BushCo will not admit it (see the debate transcript, won't nominate judges against abortion, yeah, right) openly but his handlers do have an agenda of outlawing abortion for American women. He's too chicken to fess up but it is laying right there on the table under all the doublespeak.

Not for my girls, not for my granddaughters. Not for anyone. I am not an advocate for abortion but I will fight to the death for other women to make that decision for themselves, their families and their lives.

[Not Me]

1. I heard it too, and thought that it was code to the base

but as you say, it got lost in the Mary Cheney flap.
I am suprised that Womens groups haven't picked up on it.

It is such archaic thought.

[Warren DeMontague]

2. Yeah. Otherwise known as "convents"

Of course, it's not considered classy to bring up the fact that the HLA Plank of the GOP Platform, as written, would criminalize the birth control pill... So, why even bother.

[7th_Sephiroth]

11. birthcontroll pills have medical uses beyond birth controll

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[Warren DeMontague]

17. Right. And they also can prevent cancer, etc.

But try telling that to the W. David Hager wing of the GOP. If they get their way, birth control pills will be a controlled substance.

[punpirate]

3. If I recall correctly...

... there are fundies in Texas and elsewhere with interests in adoption for profit firms. They make their money on finder fees paid by prospective parents seeking children to adopt.

When money and ideology converge, that becomes policy in the Bush administration....

[Lerkfish]

4. I agree, many of us brought up at the time of the debates here...

there was a good discussion on it.

[DURHAM D]

5. Code to the red states - We will crank up the orphan trains and

send you some free workers.

[grannylib]

6. Like the short-lived homes Jerry Falwell set up for unwed mothers?

Turns out the place was applying for WELFARE payments to support the young women there, not operating it as a 'charity' or anything of the kind. It was a money-making scam
Surprise, surprise, surprise....

[luaneryder]

7. Like the Florence Crittenden

home in Lexington, KY where I grew up. The "wards" of the home weren't allowed off the grounds, kept apart from the rest of society. There was a fence around it and people would drive by to peer in at the girls in the yard. It was hideous and this is what he wants to do to women again.

[leftofthedial]

8. no surprise there

their doctrine and their policies all are attempts to take the world back to the 11th century.

[dogtag]

9. There was a very unattractive feature of the

'wayward girls' homes that isn't often mentioned. They were not given any drugs for pain and told that they were supposed to suffer for their sin.

[MsUnderstood]

10. I didn't object to the comment

But that was because my definition of materinty group home is based on what is run where I live:

Girls who are in trouble (not meaning pregnant but on probation, under the care of CPS, no home, etc.) and who happen to be pregnant can now go to a group home that specialises in pregnant teen services.

The benefit is that they can keep their kid and turn their life around.

Now I'm wondering what he meant. . .

[seabeyond]

12. who is going to fund these homes

the repugs. and are they going to short fund these homes too. who are all the people that are going to adopt. and are the repugs going to welfare the people having babies they cant take care of, more so than they are today

i think not

like tweety asks, are you going to put the woman in jail for an abortion. no one will say yes.

repugs want something but dont think it thru. hence war in iraq. why we need nuance

[Carolinian]

13. Oh, I did a lot of ranting about this after debate #2. One of the

comments I read in freeperville was, "When we get abortion criminalized and women are once again 'seen but not heard...." If one of the Bush twins got into trouble do you think they would go to an unwed mother's home then give their baby up for adoption? Hell no, they would go to a European spa and have an abortion.

[Carolinian]

14. Ladies, how fast can we turn "getting a piece" into a memory for

the American male?????

[skygazer]

15. There were several threads about it right after the debate

I, too, was shocked and surprised that no one in the media picked up on it (oh, hell, no I wasn't surprised but I was disappointed). I even went so far as to email the K/E campaign about it and I wrote a LTTE in regards to it.

Yes, I remember those days as well and I also noted that Bush did not explain how this would cut down on the number of abortions. It was obvious to me that the plan was to take away the right of choice so these young women would not have access to them in the first place. Shameful and shocking that it has not been discussed more.

[ScreamingMeemie]

16. I did...and my thread dropped like a rock. Wrong time of day I guess.

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