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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:34 PM
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prediction: IF this election winds up in the supreme court
which i actually very much doubt will happen, but IF the supreme court is in a position to "decide" the election, then i predict that KERRY will win.

i think o'conner will crack. i think she's regretted her decision on its merits but hoped that shrub would turn out to be a good enough president that no one would really mind and it would just be one bad decision in the context of an otherwise, respectable career (well *i* wouldn't say respectable, but *she* would). instead, shrub let her down and everyone else down by being a total embarrassment. so now she's complicit in this embarrassment in an unseemly way.

a bush v. kerry case would be, for her, a means of redemption. if she votes for shrub again, then, even if shrub's case is rather stronger on its merits, o'conner's career gets reduced to PARTISAN HACK. whereas if she votes for kerry, that particular label can't fit as well, so people might wind up judging her based on the merits of the rest of her career, which is all she ever wanted.

the other 8 justices will vote just as the did in bush v. gore, and in so many other cases....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:36 PM
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1. I doubt they'd take the case again.
Especially after the staffers came out with their comments in the recent few days.

I think they'd toss it back to the states to sort it out!
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:44 PM
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5. Do you have links to those?
I missed them.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:01 AM
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7. Sorry, I just looked and can't find the report, but
there were several former staffers from SCOTUS who said they quit thier job, and were speaking out now because of all the political BS that was going on behind the scenes in the bush v gore case. They all thought that SCOUTS would never take the case, and couldn't remain working there because of the political stuff that went on.

I know I'm probably just not looking for the right combination of words to find the info, but it was on CNN several times today.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:03 AM
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8. Thanks for the information.
I'll see If I can find it.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:18 AM
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9. staffers came out with their comments
In Court Clerks' Breach, a Provocative Precedent

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By Charles Lane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 17, 2004; Page D01

The inscription on the front of the Supreme Court building says "Equal Justice Under Law," but the court's motto could just as easily be "What Happens Here, Stays Here." In a town where confidential information travels fast, the justices protect their internal deliberations fiercely -- and, usually, successfully.

But in the October <2004> issue of Vanity Fair magazine, former Supreme Court law clerks from the court's 2000-01 term speak out -- under cover of anonymity -- about what they saw behind the scenes during the fateful case of Bush v. Gore.
....

Writers David Margolick, Evgenia Peretz and Michael Shnayerson recount the views of former clerks to liberal justices who opposed the ruling. Those clerks contend that the decision was a rank exercise in partisanship by conservative Republican justices.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:39 PM
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2. My predicition:
If this election goes to the courts, it will end in the streets - no matter who the courts pick.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:41 PM
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4. wow...same thought, one second apart.....
how often does that happen?
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:40 PM
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3. If this election is hung up as in 2000 on legal wrangling and Bush
perfidy....it will be settled not in the courts but in the streets.
That's what I think.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:52 PM
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6. I'm afraid you're right, MnFats.
I'll be in the streets, too. Doing whatever I can to make sure that we get a competent President installed in the Whitehouse.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 12:22 AM
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10. I think that O'Connor has buyer's remorse.
I remember that she wanted * to win because she wanted to retire and have her replacement be made by a Republican. Well, she's had nearly 4 years and she hasn't retired yet. By now it's already too late and it's been clear for some time that there's a good chance * won't get a second term.

If she was all that pro-chimpy, I think the main indicator would have been her retirement. I think she may very well vote differently if things go to the Supreme Court this time.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:55 AM
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11. Fuck O'Connor!
Since she made that decision in 2000, there's no going back. She made her bed, so she's going to have to sleep in it. I will NEVER forgive that ugly bitch for fucking the United States in such a royal manner. She should be deported to Afghanistan.
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