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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:01 AM
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Warning: Possible new Rove dirty trick
Rove has 'framed' his opponents in elections past. That is well known fact.

Well this is making the rounds over in freepville right now. There's a huge thread about it, the freepers are up in arms.

"Report: Kerry Campaign Calls Colorado Voters, "Your Son was Killed in Iraq"
Thursday, October 21, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 10/21/2004 7:07:04 AM PDT by kristinn

VANITY REPORT--NOT VERBATIM.

Laura Ingraham just had a caller on her show from Colorado who said the local news is reporting people in the Fort Carson area in Colorado are receiving phone calls purportedly from the Kerry campaign with the worst sort of scare tactic.

The woman said the phone call begins with an ID saying the call is from the Kerry campaign. Next, the voice says, "Your son has been killed in Iraq." After a pause, the voice says that if President Bush is re-elected more families will be getting these calls.

Laura asked listeners out there try to get a recording of the phone call from the local news.
34 posted on 10/21/2004 7:14:56 AM PDT by doug from upland"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1252139/posts

Remember how Rove bugged his own office? Remember how he had outrageous and scandalous fliers printed up and passed out that were ostensibly put out by his opponent? There is an Atlantic Monthly article out now that delves into these Rove dirty tricks.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:04 AM
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1. that's pathetic
We have family serving now, and I would hunt down and beat senseless the person responsible for this if my mom or sister were to get such a call.
I watched my mom get that call for real when I was a kid.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:06 AM
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4. We need to get the word out that Rove/Bush are behind the fake calls!!!!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:06 AM
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5. Call the authorities and trace the call.
Find out who pays that bill.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:10 AM
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10. Kerry headquarters should make an airwaves announcement
Warning people of such calls and informing them of the proper legal steps to take.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:11 AM
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12. Call a press conference about it, too.
Don't wait a minute.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:05 AM
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2. sounds rovian to me....
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 01:06 AM by loveable liberal
being a "rove" should be used exactly like being a "quisling". both are traitors.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:09 AM
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9. yep
do someting bad and blame it on your opponent

man, they are pathetic and shameless
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:06 AM
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3. Doesn't the military still deliver bad news in person, not over the phone?
.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:08 AM
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7. military delivers in person.
the point is that these phone calls are trying to make a point about 4 more years of bush, not that these peoples kids are actually being killed. typical rove crap.
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charleston1 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:49 AM
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18. No, not any more
I have read that a number of family members have been called on the phone by the actual unit commander very soon after there family member has been killed. They have incredible comm gear over there now and it is very personalized this way to hear it from someone who knows exactly what happened.
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charleston1 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:52 AM
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19. Delete duplicate sorry
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 01:53 AM by charleston1
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:08 AM
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20. Some get called by phone
Depends on the situ, but the military does call by phone sometimes.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:29 AM
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22. Lila Lipscomb, in F-9/11, described the phone call she got.
They do make calls.

:-(
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:07 AM
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6. Hey, KKKarl: Don't forget the girls with baby strollers
The Marx brothers could have made a movie out of this stuff.
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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:09 AM
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8. We NEED to get to the bottom of this
This looks, walks and talks like Rove. But we need to find out for sure and spread the message before this has a chance to have an effect! If we can let everyone know it's Bush in time, it will backfire hugely on them.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:10 AM
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11. Rent the DVD "Bush's Brain" The whole scoop on Rove.
Very entertaining and a well done film.

And yes, Rove will pull his slime all the way through Nov. 2nd, that you can count on.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:14 AM
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13. Question?
I work for local law enforcement and can pass along any suspicious internet messages to the proper law enforcement authorities in that state, county, city, wherever. It takes me about 2 minutes to locate the address, and pass along the info and website as-

"No action requested - for your information only"

Should I zap it there way? Won't do it if it's not proper protocol. I do know that the officials in CO would appreciate having the info and source, but if I should just let it slide.. I will.

~ :)
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:39 AM
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17. larissa, go for it, cuz no matter who is doing it ...it crosses the line .
into the realm of political terrorism that is predominantly ruled by KKKarl Rove.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:15 AM
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14. POSTED to Kerry/Edwards forum hopefully a advisor notices it
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 01:17 AM by AIndependentTexan
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:16 AM
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15. The "victim" should have called the local Kerry campaign if she
suspected them. This kind of thing happens every election and is easily resolved.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:20 AM
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16. someone at the kerry/edwards forum posted this[IMPORTANT INFO]
by JimMcElroy Today, 01:18 AM

This is an old tactic from the Nixon days.

Nixon's CREEP (Committee to Re-elect the President) did this a lot. They wanted McGovern to be the Democratic candidate, because they viewed McGovern as the easiest to defeat. (I believe Rove was on that team.) So they sabotaged the Muskie campaign. Included in their tricks was:

Calling people at 4 in the morning claiming to be from the "Muskie for President" campaign, and saying really atrocious things.

Putting out bumper stickers in Alabama reading "You liked Hitler? You'll LOVE Wallace -- vote for Muskie in 72".

Yes -- the Kerry Organizers need to get on this RIGHT NOW and stop it and expose it if it is happening. My advice: Run full page ads or put out to the mass media in some other form this message -- that people receiving objectionable phone calls from people claiming to be from the Kerry Campaign need to contact the REAL Kerry Campaign immediately, so we can put a stop to this. EXPOSE IT immediately for what it is.

It did tremendous damage to Muskie in 1972. Don't let it damage us.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:28 AM
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21. IIRC, wasn't "doug from upland" involved in some other scheme
several months ago? Or am I mis-remembering?


Tansy Gold, who should have gone to bed hours ago
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:32 AM
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23. Wait a minute -- before we go off half-cocked
The original post was from a freeper thread. It claimed someone called in to Laura Ingraham, not exactly one of "ours."

Do we even know that any of these calls have been made?
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:33 AM
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24. Fuck the recordings
They can record anything they want.

I can record my brother right now saying he and George W. Bush smoked crack on a hill in City Terrace last week. I need witnesses. First had accounts. People willing to go on camera.

Just another bullshit tactic aimed at the Sheople.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:02 AM
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25. doug from upland...
..is the lowest of the low. He probably recorded this call himself. He's a long time gutter player at FR. Horrible. Dangerous.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:30 AM
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26. I live on Fort Carson
and I haven't heard anything about this happening. If I do hear something, I'll let you know.
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