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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:50 PM
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A kinder, gentler 2004 Primary post.
Well. Moving this little primary bloodletting to its own area was a great idea. If someone wants to raise their blood pressure, feel insulted, and discouraged all at the same time, we needn't look far.

I'm tired of the cruel attacks by Clark supporters over my choice of candidates for the nomination. The attacks are more vehement than those of our Nader/Gore scuffles after the stolen election. Perhaps Clark appeals to more aggressive people, and more GOP leaning "Democrats", because I have not seen such anger toward other DUers before Clark announced his candidacy.

Here is why I chose Dean, (and if you post a bunch of cruel things about me and my choice, after reading this.. then there is no hope for us defeating Bush. None.

In the mid-nineties, I had the privelege and pleasure of volunteering, and being heavily involved in the campaign of a non-insider running for US Congress. He was a professor at University of Santa Barbara, California. His name was Walter Capps. He was something else. He was a funny, gentle man with a dry sense of humor. He was kind and unassuming. He had a wonderful wife, and family who was by his side during the whole campaign. He represented the ideal that WE are the ones that make a difference in politics. He was unlike any politician you've ever met.. because he wasn't one.

He ran against a very popular, very right-wing devotee of Newt Gingrich. She was shrill. She was also heavily financed and supported by D.C. Walter came from nowhere, not a particularly deft campaigner by political standards, but he won. The GOP was flummoxed.

He did everything he set out to do in his first months as a Congressman. He was well liked and popular in D.C. Before a year of his term was over, Walter died in the Dulles Airport returning from a visit to his constituency in California. He, and his wife Lois, made a point of returning there as much as possible to stay in touch with the people who put him in office. Lois was by his side when he died. He was 63. His colleagues, supporters, employees, and friends were devastated. The day after his death, I received in the mail two letters. One was from Walter, one from Lois. Both thanked me and told me how much they enjoyed a social event that I arranged and attended with them. Both were written the day he died, before he arrived in D.C.

I came across those letters today, and I wept. Walter inspired people who had never considered becoming political. He inspired people who thought they would never have a voice in Washington, D.C. He was a warm, intelligent, humorous man who's eyes lit up when he recognized a friendly face coming into a room, even if he was knee-deep in a policy discussion.

I chose to support Howard Dean because I see some of Walter's qualities in him. The ability to inspire. The ability to give voters that sense that they CAN make a difference, that their votes DO count. The feeling that the country belongs to US, not the special interests. I watched speeches by Howard Dean, and I see the same passion for the people that Walter showed.

Walter's widow, Lois, served the rest of his term. She was then re-elected into the office, where she still serves Walter's constituency.

Peace,
Caliphoto
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:54 PM
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1. Kinder, gentler: attacking Clark supporters and others who just don't
get it?

Amazing.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:18 PM
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4. Open your eyes..
"I'm tired of the cruel attacks by Clark supporters over my choice of candidates for the nomination. The attacks are more vehement than those of our Nader/Gore scuffles after the stolen election. Perhaps Clark appeals to more aggressive people, and more GOP leaning "Democrats", because I have not seen such anger toward other DUers before Clark announced his candidacy"

Hardly an attack. It's a statement about the attacks here, and WHY I supported Dean. Sorry you can't see that. But that's what I was alluding to in my post. I pity Clark because his followers make him look bad. Thanks for reminding me why the fuck I don't post here any more.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:58 PM
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2. may the best candidate win n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:24 PM
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5. That is perfect: may the best candidate win.
nt
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:28 PM
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7. thanks
;)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:59 PM
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3. If there's one thing I can't stand
its Dean supporters who see only Clark supporters posting negative items. Open thine eyes...there is blood from all quarters around here.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:28 PM
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6. Do you realize who started using the phrase "kinder, gentler"?
I'm curious - how many people use that phrase without realizing where -and who - it came from?
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 10:00 PM
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8. Just a kind and gentle attack on Clark supporters eh?
Nice, verry classy.
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PatrioticOhioLiberal Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 10:09 PM
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9. I used to watch my grandfather
and his brothers pound the kitchen table hard enough for it to be heard over the shouting they were doing while "discussing" politics and/or religion.

People get passionate over either, even face to face. I guess it's no surprise when things get even more heated when there's no face across the table.

Let's be honest though...a "kinder & gentler 2004 primary post" (which I was really looking forward to seeing) would have fit the bill a little better if it had dealt soley with your memories of Mondale & your current support of Dean without throwing in another candidate's name to stir the pot.

I've got no problem with you supporting Dean...that you feel strongly about him is great. But please stop using the broad brush barbs against another candidates supporters. And please don't try to tell us that all was sweetness & light here at DU before Clark entered the race.

I wish, just one time, we could come on this board and find people "talking with" each other rather than "pounding the table".

Peace

I lurked here for months before I ever posted...and I have seen the table pounding between other candidates that had nothing to do with Clark.

I try to be respectful of others and always hope (wishful thinking it seems) that others will do the same.

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