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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:07 PM
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Should We Trust Gallup's Recent Ohio Poll?
It showed Kerry up by 6 points in Ohio 50-44 among registered voters in a 3-way matchup with Nader included. Interestingly, with Nader in the loop, the race becomes 50-45 Kerry-Bush, and I think by 2 among likely voters, 48-47 among LVs.

So should we trust these? I think I might, just because most Gallup polls' RV samples aren't too bad - sometimes they're a little bit skewed, but they generally are more in line with other polls. It's their LV models that are way off.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:09 PM
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1. If Gallup says Kerry is up by 6% in Ohio then in reality he is up by 8%
and expect Strategic Vision (hmmm wonder what the name means) to come up with a poll showing Bush up by 4% within a couple of days.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:31 PM
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7. Strategic Vision means exactly what it sounds like
you see what you want to see. Blinders required.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:09 PM
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2. Well, I don't know why Gallup would slant a poll in Kerry's favor...
so if anything Kerry might just be up by 10 in Ohio. Do you have the party breakdown of that poll versus what Ohioans identify themselves as? (Or their 2000 voting pattern?)
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:11 PM
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3. Gallup Sucks!
I don't have a doubt that they are understating Kerry's lead.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:15 PM
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4. No Repub has ever won the presidency
Trust the Scripps Ohio University poll out today that has Kerry up 5 among RVs and 4 among LVs.
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Hoosier Democrat Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:18 PM
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5. Gallup is not as reputable as they used to be
This cycle, Gallup has repeatedly over-sampled Republican voters in its polls, skewing the race in favor of Dumbya.

I'd say that, if Gallup says 6%, we're probably up by 8 or 9.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:27 PM
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6. very nice picture. they should run an ad with just that picture.
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