OMG, Wolves ad was held for 5 months!

[dogtag]

It's the October surprise or something like it. Focus groups, according to Dana Bash on CNN found it so effective that the repugs held it for five months to use as a nuclear bomb just before the election!

[Jack_Dawson]

1. So why does it induce laughter?

[dogtag]

5. My dog came up to the monitor and made friendly

noises trying to communicate with his fellow dogs! He snarls at Cheney and downright barks at Bush. Did I mention that he's a Democrat?

[1monster]

30. Is he a YELLOW DOG?

:D

[dogtag]

32. He's a Doberman, but when it comes to

politics, he's a Yellow Dog Democrat! Me too!

[Lorien]

40. Like this?

Golden retriever makes friendly with neighborhood pet wolf:


The wolf's hair is standing on end because she thinks the dog is HOT! She flirted with him for about 20 minutes, but to no avail. Poor wolf.

[slutticus]

50. That's not a real wolf...

...is it?

How can one tell?

[Lorien]

54. She's 2/3 timber wolf, 1/3 malamute

they are legal as pets in the state of Florida (where I live). Look at the legs; Malamutes are working dogs and have thicker legs, wolves are taller, and have elegant, slender legs.

The breeders even have a website. Just Google "wolfdog breeders".

[slutticus]

57. Cool...

..my aunt has a malamute. I love how she howls instead of barks. Maybe she's part wolf too. She has one brown eye and one blue one.

[dogtag]

61. My dog wants to know if your dog dates non wolfdogs?

He likes romantic walks in the woods, scaring repugs, moonlight howlings, etc.

[Lorien]

68. Lol! She's a friend's wolf

her name is Nakoma. She enjoys chasing squirrels, going for dips in the lake, and flirting (obviously). Her owner is great with her; she's VERY obedient and loyal. He cooks her meals at home using free range beef, venison, garlic and fresh vegetables; thus the beautiful, flea free coat!

[Leilani]

59. Oh Jen, she is beautiful!

Thanks for posting these pics...I am a wolf nut!

[Lorien]

75. You're welcome!

:hi:

If you're interested in wolfdogs as pets (no longer called "wolf hybrids" because wolves have the same DNA as domestic dogs. They are just another "breed" of dog) there are a couple of great books out there: 'wolfdogs, A-Z" and "Living with wolfdogs" (I can't remember the autor, but they are both on Amazon). I got them for a friend who has a lab that is no where NEAR as well behaved as Nakoma, and the advice in the books worked beautifully for her!

[calimary]

63. Good Lord, what a gorgeous dog...

and hey, I'm a cat person.

That's some beauty, though. Both of 'em, actually.

[Starlight]

69. Exactly. It's a really stupid, pathetic ad. n/t

[Shoeempress]

2. Did the focus group have to sign loyalty oaths first?

[blondeatlast]

16. Yes, right after they signed out of Bellevue! nt

[grumpy old fart]

19. That's the ticket

Given the bubble the chimp lives in, I'm sure the groups had to sign off on all manner of loyalty oaths to the Ministry of Homeland Security before viewing the sacred images. Once properly cowed, they felt an overwhelming urge to approve the glorious information the fuhrer was proposing to provide to his subjects.....What a dumb ad. Where can I get one of those adorable animals for a pet, by the way?

[Shoeempress]

35. Donate to the wildlife fund or Sierra Club to help protect them.

[PermanentRevolution]

83. Defenders of Wildlife, too...

http://www.defenders.org/wildlife/new/wolves.html

They've been one of the leaders in wolf conservation.

[meegbear]

3. Yeah, it's a bomb alright

eom

[billyoc]

6. What a ridiculous choice

of animals to show a perceived threat, not to mention the "crying wolf" connection with all the bullshit terror alerts. I mean, I know that wolves can eat people if they're hungry, but man, they're such handsome animals, it's just plain stupid.

[Leilani]

41. That is a Myth!

Wolves are afraid of people & quite shy.

They do not attack people, & do not eat them.

You re thinking of Little Red Riding Hood! LOL!

[Lorien]

48. True. I posted some photos of a pet wolf from my neighborhood

above. She's a very sweet, well behaved pet. More obedient than most of the dogs at the park!

I don't think there has ever been a recorded case of a wild wolf killing a human being. Domestic dogs are more likely to do that (and do, unfortunately).

[CatWoman]

7. ROFL!!!!!!!!!

POST OF THE MONTH GOES TO MEEGBEAR!!!!!!

[Gavinicus]

4. Then it was bad timing

What was effective five months ago, before the debates, before Kerry got his groove back, is just goofy now. Sorry, Repubs, you should have fired the shot a long time ago. :P

[dogtag]

10. Rove must be furious. Someone is getting an ass kicking today.

[emulatorloo]

33. Perhaps Karl and Karen can slap each other silly

so that we don't have to deal with them anymore.

[Walt Starr]

8. Best move the Repukes ever made for the Dems

They blew it! The perfect timing was when the focus groups thought it was effective, but now it's a fucking joke!

[Jersey Devil]

9. Jeezus, why didn't they at least have the wolves growling & snarling?

Add a few howls as well. They should have held it another week for Halloween and they could have added a pic of Kerry morphing into a wolf.

[dogtag]

22. They should have put 'Taliban' headgear on

their little heads!

[Leilani]

37. LOL!!!!!

Send that idea to Rove!!!

[yardwork]

11. That's even funnier than the ad!

Rove has really lost it.

[blondeatlast]

12. You're joking, right?

This is DA BOMB???

Are they pulling our collective legs?

Ahem. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, etc.!

[TexasChick]

65. ROFLMAO!!!

[Bluebear]

13. Well, I'm certainly surprised......

at how ridiculous it is! Hahahahahahaah

[AmerDem]

14. "nuclear bomb" more like a turd floating in the bowl

The eagel ad is much more effective then that wolf ad.

[Skidmore]

15. Bet it disappears by the morning, though. nt

[shtinkycat]

17. hee hee!

those doggies are adorbale. Per my husband, there are no recorded human fatalities in the US, EVER, from a wolf attack. Maybe the Iraqi wolf is especially deadly??

http://wdfw.wa.gov/factshts/graywolf.htm

This ad is a laugher. The eagle ad, on the other hand is superb.

Edit to correct the url

[Beetwasher]

18. Is It An Ad For Animal Planet? National Geographic? Wild Kingdom?

:shrug:

Beautiful animals, makes me want to donate to wildlife conservation orgs or something, but I'm still voting for Kerry!

[nixonwasbetterthanW]

23. Nope. It's for "Brian Fellow's Safari Planet"

[nonconformist]

20. Ok, that is just hilarious. nt

[Sequoia]

21. Anyone have a link to the wolf video?

We don't get those commercials in California. Thanks.

[blondeatlast]

25. Below...

http://www.georgewbush.com

Enjoy; remember, this is their BOMB!

And a stinker of one it is, too!

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Just tried your link

Server unavailable please try later.

[blondeatlast]

31. Hmm. I tried it, it's fine. Not on the RNC site, btw, I tried that first.

I'm not that savvy, so maybe others can help out.

[Cha]

81. Thanks, I tried it and it worked for me..

It was so freakin' creepy listening to that female voice Dissing Liberals.

I am so Sheltered ..I never hear bad things about Liberals like that!..

So what is the point of the wolves..it looked like an environmental ad to me..

[Sequoia]

56. Thanks, it was painful to go there

but this is all they got?!! Ha!

[Kimber Scott]

80. And they say Kerry is using fear tactics? ROFLMAO! Oh, and "sports

pandering." I wonder what that ad will look like?

[rockymountaindem]

24. I'll be honest, I thought the ad was pretty creepy visually.

If they're aiming to make people afraid, that ad is a step in the right direction, what with the horror-movie music and the slow motion wolves.

On the other hand, the suggestion that a 6 billion dollar cut to the intel budget (which was over 6 years, making it 6 billion out of over 300 billion) has weakened us is just rediculous.

[dogtag]

27. And their guy Porter Goss, new head of the CIA, wanted much

bigger cuts. They forgot to mention that.

[FrankenforMN]

26. Honestly I Think This Will Be A Historic Ad

When they showed it on Crossfire everyone just started laughing. Mark my words: This ad will be remembered as the nail in Bush's coffin

[dogtag]

28. Maybe moveon should do one in response -

Bush as the ineffectual "I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down" wolf.

[timezoned]

52. I think they should do one cut with the pet goat scenes

.... menacing voice...wolves attacking...him sitting there doing nothing... sound of goat bleating helplessly

[Jawja]

34. WTF???

LOL!!!! :scared:

That was supposed to be scary?? That's supposed to swing the election???

You can see the "wolves" video at MSNBC.com, under "News Videos."

[emulatorloo]

36. What's up with the female narrator's fake British Accent?

It sounds like somebody imitating the post-Guy Ritchie Madonna.

Wierd.

But at anyrate, after reading how "Powerful" this ad is, I was pretty underwhelmed.

It is totally LAME>

[tishaLA]

46. I had the Madonna thought too

ridiculous.

[mcg]

38. We're howling ... with laughter!

From a freeper post:

"The Dems and MediaCrats are gonna "howl" over this one!"

Indeed, we are.

[timezoned]

51. I knew they'd defeat themselves if we just let them

This thing could carry us all the way to the election, laughing all the way.

I've never seen anything so ridiculous in my life.

Especially combined with the "crying wolf" critiques about using terror threats gratuitously.

[progressivebydesign]

39. When is the MONSTER UNDER THE BED ads coming/??

Are those the November 1st surprise??? I mean seriously, the Bush campaign has just crossed the boundary into ridiculousness.. their fear mongering is now so fucking blatant that they are being ridiculed.

[onecent]

42. The ad is NOT scarey at all. I thought it was an ad for beer

it began by showing the blue sky and the forest....I was expecting the song, "sky blue waters...waters...."

The wolves are passive looking animals here. I have a husky that LOOKS exactly like a wolf and scares all strangers....these wolves are all sitting on the mountainside looking like they are basking in the sun.

[GRLMGC]

43. Lame

Seriously lame. Come one now, I thought Karl Rove was smarter than that. God if that kinda of lame ass crap scares people, then the human race is in danger.

[crispini]

44. Ok, I just watched them both, and:

Wolves: SO?

Eagle: Bwahahahahahahaha!

WTF, is that really the best they can do? Is THAT the October Surprise? Oh puhleeze.

[RetroLounge]

45. What, the Closet Monster was busy?

Geez, I had a wolf hybrid, and she was the friendliest dog I ever have know.

RL

[hippiechick]

70. OBL's contract must be in negotiations ...

... so he wouldn't let his likeness be used until the BFEE cuts him in on a bigger percentage ...

:evilgrin:


:hippie:

[bread_and_roses]

47. wonder how it will play in Peoria

as they say? Hard for me to believe that many people are going to see an image of beautiful wild creatures as scary, but judging from the responses any time an organization wants to re-introduce wolves anywhere.... Of course, many of the same people objecting to the re-introduction of wolves in wilderness areas don't object to State laws allowing their neighbors to own tigers, pumas, ect., all of which are far more likely to kill their children - and them - than wolves.

Nonetheless, from the descriptions it is hard to imagine it being all that scary to most people...don't their kids watch National Geo too?

As usual, I am LMAO at the responses in this thread.

[gavodotcom]

55. Well, I live in Peoria

And I gotta say, that was hilarious.

The animatronic wolf hopping around in the forest was great.

I bet you 10-15% of Peorians are in possession of (or some variant of) this:

[bread_and_roses]

71. that settles it then :)

If that many Peorians are wearing wolves on Ts, the sight of the beautiful creatures themselves on the TV is hardly going to set them shrieking and wailing in terror.

[sangh0]

49. Just wait until you see the "Killer Koalas" ad they holding onto

until Nov 3

[TexasChick]

67. ROFLMAO!!!

[mcg]

77. like a Koala ... ready to pounce

<>

My blood drains from my veins and a cold chill runs up my spine.

[sangh0]

86. Koalas would say ANYTHING

for the opportunity to such the blood from your veins (scary music)

That's the tag line!! Just before "I'm George bush* and I approve this message"

[mfritz]

53. Lone Wolf vs. Leader of the Pack

That's a good way to compare the Bush and Kerry foreign policy strategies.

Bush wants America to to be the lone wolf, but when times are tough the lone wolf dies cold, hungry, and alone. Kerry want's America to be the leader of the pack. The Alpha Wolf is always safe and well fed.

MF

[geniph]

58. oooh, doggies! Scary!

NOT!

Lamest.Political.Advertisement.Ever.

I was looking for Ann Coulter in the Red Riding Hood getup...after all, it IS Halloween, and that seems to work with freeper wet-dream fantasies.

:puke:

[MADem]

60. Key things I noticed about that WOLF AD

First, it is dark and dull. Fox News knows that stupid people are attracted to bright colors, so the dummies will not lock on.

Second, listen carefully to the announcer. There is a hint of something that sounds like an IRISH accent--are we trying to reach Catholics here? Oooops--you forgot POLAND!!!!!

Third, my coward of a dog (a coward, a rank, timid, fierce looking coward) found the wolves friendly, too, as did another poster's pet!

Finally, and this is a REAL problem with all of Bush's ads: the "AH'M GEORGE BUSH AN AH UPPROVE THIS MESSICH" is cut into the end of the message, but it comes after a one-beat delay. As a consequence, the audio morphs into the next ad, as though it is the leader for it--and it's really funny if you are looking away, or are in the next room.

Consequently, when I saw the ad on TV, I was treated to George Bush appearing to approve a message for DETROL, one of those great big pharma drugs that helps people who always have to piss like a racehorse (Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go right NOW, gotta go, gotta go, gotta GO!).

How very apropos, when one thinks about it!!!!

[sangh0]

87. "AH'M GEORGE BUSH AN AH UPPROVE THIS MESSICH"

followed by "Got pee?"

Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you for that image.

[Radical Activist]

62. It appeals to our most basic insticts of fear

this is worthy of Goebles.

[sofa king]

64. I tried to be serious about this, but....

Sorry this is so large. I'm sure the image host won't keep it for long, so snap it up now while it lasts!



And of course, feel free to distribute it freely.

[dogtag]

66. We can't, we simply can't....as civilized people...

unleash the Cockapoo bomb on a hapless world!!! NO, NO, NO.

[dogtag]

72. Roger Simon and Karen Tumulty on Lou Dobbs (CNN)

commenting on the wolf ad, don't see the humor. Surprised? Nah. They did make mild cracks about both parties using animals.

[TexasChick]

73. Well for crying out loud! Chimp, you're in trouble if this is all you have

left hanging in the balance! Of course, I knew you were toast all along! Loser!!



Jennifer

[texasmom]

93. I agree.

It is pathetic. I'm kinda stunned...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

74. Where did the wolves hide the boxcutters on 911?

And how did they reach the fight controls on the planes with their short legs and paws?

[jmowreader]

90. They didn't need to

They just pushed the "automatically fly into the side of the WTC" button, which is between the "automatically fly to Chicago" and the "automatically wash the windshield" buttons.

And don't none of you pilots tell me there's no fucking "crash into a hundred-story building" button on those planes. Mohammed Atta's report card from pilot school says "blind men with no hands fly better than he does" and this was from his Cessna-flying days. And he flew into that building just as pretty as you please.

[Zero Gravitas]

76. HAhahaha

If that stupid ad is the best they can come up with, Bush better concede right now. Pathetic. And talk about crying "Wolf"! maybe those fluffy puppies have buried some WMDs out in those woods! :lol:

[IChing]

79. Wolf was used to attack kerry for 1 year

[Princess Turandot]

78. It just ran here ..I heard the voice over but stopped watching before..

they got to the wolves..I couldn't figure out why they were panning thru a forest & just turned away from it.

Perhaps the focus groups needed eyeglasses.

[MADem]

88. Pay attention to the commercial that follows it

...and every Weecowboy ad. They always wait a beat or two and plonk that "AHM GEORGE BUSH, AN AH UPPROVE THIS MESSICH" way too late in the ad. I think they are hoping that greedy advertisers will cut it, or overstep it with another ad, but they never do. To me, who listens to TV more than I actually watch it, the placement of the disclaimer, as I mentioned in a previous post, sounds like an unintentional endorsement of the follow on commercial. So, you get the Village Idiot approving messages for everything from Verizon Wireless to feminine hygiene products...it makes me laugh every time I see a Weewee commercial, because I am hoping for a good follow on--I've yet to see him endorse Trojan Man--but who knows, one day I may get that laugh too!

[DireStrike]

82. Can somebody post/send the video to me?

I can't watch it streaming... it doesn't work very well with my 56k.


Streaming video is pointless... I have a gmail account so I can receive it there.

Checking the source reveals the URL for the ad is:

mms://media4.streamtoyou.com/gwb/wolves_256k.wmv

I just can't save it.

[fishwax]

84. It apparently tested well BEFORE the debates

But the debates showed millions of voters that weren't previously that familiar with Kerry that JK could be trusted with national security. So the kind of smear campaign which relies on voter ignorance isn't going to work as well now. Ha!

Honestly, against the poised, resolved, and presidential John Kerry that America saw at the debates, this ad looks pretty damn stupid.

[dogtag]

85. Those poor focus group people will be hunted down

and bitch slapped by Karl Rove and Karen Hughes. Ouch!

[MADem]

89. It was probably cretinous Frank LUNTZ

...who ran the focus groups! I saw my enemy on MSNBC today, as a 'guest' commentator (he's no longer on retainer), but they did say he was a REPUBLICAN pollster, twice, in fact. Guess bitching pays off a little bit, anyway.

[Generator]

91. That was five months before

John Kerry "I'm reporting for duty"

John Kerry winning every debate

Cutie pie Edwards being the veep pick

Way way too many more deaths of soldiers, and Iraqi's

Before all the other terror warnings were released and people were starting to question them

Before the last five months of scare tactics.

If you hold a secret, (dumbass this means you Bushco & all your little worthless evil minions) it better be a damn secret.

YAWN.

[tsuki]

92. I saw this ad on CNN

this morning and all I could think was that after this President gives the national forest to big timber and big oil, we won't have to worry about the wolves, deer, elk, squirrels, etc.

[pandorasox]

94. Another coded message for Republican voters

Hitler's favorite animal: The wolf

Hitler's favorite song: "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?"

Hitler's nickname: Wolf

Republicans' favorite 1930s German politician: You know...

[Gloria]

95. Apparently, John Edwards has called it a "despicable" attempt to

exploit fear among Americans....I just heard it on a BBC News report on the World Service....

It's getting a rise out of the campaign, so maybe it's more effective than posters here think.........