I HAVE TO SHOUT THIS AGAIN !!!!

[TomClash]

9/11 HAPPENED ON BUSH'S WATCH!

HE IS NOT THE ANTI-TERROR PRESIDENT!

WHY WON'T KERRY OR EDWARDS SAY THIS?

[Radical Activist]

1. So in two years if

there's another terrorist attack while Kerry is President...is that the kind of accusation you would want the Republicans to make against Kerry? Is that really fair?

[mzmolly]

3. You mean to tell me you think they wouldn't?

Shit yeah it's fair. The reason it's fair is because Bush claims to be such a strong "anti-terror" President when he's a total F-up. :shrug:

[Radical Activist]

11. Then criticize how Bush responded or didn't prepare

You don't have to just say that Bush shouldn't be elected because 9/11 happened on his watch. I know the Republicans will fight that dirty but I don't care. I think we can be effective and strong without being Richard Nixon.

[mzmolly]

16. Richard Nixon? Ah, I don't want to lie down while they kick

dirt in our face. That doesn't make us Nixon, that makes us stupid.

Here's the main talking point from Republicans:

"Bush says Kerry can't keep U.S. safe" AP HEADLINE, 1.5 hours ago.

Here's the headline I'd like to see in it's place:

"Kerry says Bush failed to protect Americans on September 11."

I say let's take this bullshit meme away from Bush, quick like. :hi:

[TomClash]

4. Yes, it's fair.

Is it really fair that he criticizes Kerry as weak on terror? It is really fair that * calls himself the War President?

The first thing government is supposed to do is protect its citizens from foreign attack. Guess who didn't do that?

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. It's fair because bush*co ignored multiple warning before 9/11

and if Pres Kerry ignores warnings and we are attacked on his watch, he will deserve the same. I don't expect that will happen though.

[high density]

2. After looking at how well the GOP spun the "lesbian" comment,

a statement like this would probably be spun into something disastrous for Kerry.

[mzmolly]

6. Who cares?! Do Republicans sit around and fret about what we'll say

if they say X?

I think at the very least they need to have a major surrogate point it out? :hi:

[high density]

7. Well I'd rather talk about real issues,

instead of having yet another "KERRY IS DOOOMED AFTER SAYING THAT" news cycle.

Let's leave this sort of stuff to Michael Moore.

[TomClash]

12. Terrorism isn't a real issue? nt

[high density]

15. So let's talk about defeating terrorists

instead of playing a blame game with the GOP.

[TomClash]

18. They blame us and we take the high road and guess who wins

[mzmolly]

14. I'd rather talk about real issues too, but the GOP is not doing so.

They're whole premise is "John Kerry will kill you dead" and were afraid to tell the truth?

I'd simply state the facts as a reply to this smear:

Bush Declares Kerry Can't Keep U.S. Safe
AP ~ 1 hour, 19 minutes ago

Bush suggested his Democratic rival "does not understand the enemy we face and has no idea how to keep America secure." His campaign reinforced that theme with a new television ad with chilling imagery of prowling wolves in a dense forest. "Weakness attracts those who are waiting to do America harm,"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041022/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp_2

Forgive me, but it's time to state the OBVIOUS. "Bush failed to protect America on 9/11/2001."

[Free2BMe]

8. exactly right (oops, correct.)

[Swami Love]

9. I agree

I too don't know why the Kerry campaign isn't speaking more forcefully about the fact that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. They basically did nothing about the significant stirrings about terrorist attacks on our soil. At the debate, the question should have been posed to the Prez "what did you do about the PDB 'Al Queda determined to attack US".

Instead they have 'branded' and hijacked the word "war". Its just like the "war" on drugs, a fucking waste, and NOT achieving the objective espoused. (Watch the Wire on HBO). Kind of ironic that stemming from our success in Afgahnistan the #1 industry is poppy cultivation.

Fact: While we're being 'tough' we're rousing the criminal elements (that kidnapped humanitarian worker breaks my heart), and in the effort to pacify the insurgency/terrorists innocent people are dying and a good portion of the world hates us. There will be continued terrorism/insurgency as long as we have an imperial presence in Iraq, period. Even if I was hawk on Iraq: Just because a thing SHOULD be done, doesn't always mean it CAN be done (let alone worth doing). Remember Vietnam?

Without a mandate look whats happened. Imagine 4 years of lame duck Bush.

[Swami Love]

10. a little more to say

The truth is, when there was a lot of 'chatter' Clinton had immediate meetings and took the threats seriously, eg the millenium plot. There was no chance of intercepting the 9/11 plot with Bushco's blatant disregard for the intelligence. Ashcroft in effect said 'shut up already' about Al Queda.

I just started Bob Grahams "Intelligence Matters". There was an FBI undercover informant hanging out early on with two of the 9/11 terrorists in San Diego, who the administration prevented from sharing intelligence with the Senate Intelligence committee. Why? There's lots of questions left unanswered about how this admin mis-handled anti-terrorism Intel when they first came into office. Plus, do you remember how long it took for the admin to cooperate with the 9/11 Commission? And how all the sections on Saudi Arabia were blacked out? Only when pressure built would Condi come to testify. At the minimum there are questions to be answered that have yet to be answered.

And coupled with the bungling and misleading re: Iraq along with Osama still loose---this hardly points to Bush being the 'best man to fight terrorism'! X-Files 2: the truth is *in* there.

[secular_warrior]

13. It might offend the soccer moms and dads

Don't want to upset anyone. George Bush is a strong leader, we all respect him. Nothing to see here, move along...

This message brought to you by Bob Shrum and Mary Beth Cahill.

[senseandsensibility]

17. Too simple?

But simple is what sells in the red states. Nothing is too simple in Presidential politics, as Kerry should have learned by now. You're right; he should be screaming it from the rooftops.

[sharman]

19. I just love how

Bushie accuses Kerry of having a "pre-9/11 mindset."

Um, don't they damn themselves with their own meme? I mean, they were the guys in charge on 9/10 and also August 6. If we don't like the mindset of the guys in charge pre-9/11, let's fire them.