Are Republicans Trying To Repeal The 15Th Amendment?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Seems so with their faux felon lists, registration challenges, and attempts at voter intimidation....

[olddem43]

1. They are trying to repeal all the amendments -

except the 2nd.

[leftofthedial]

2. as soon as the others are gone, they'll repeal that one too

they are using the anti-choice zealots and the gun nuts and the religious wackos as means to an end

[The Revolution]

3. Exactly.

As soon as they are able to arrest people for no reason, search people's homes without permission, and surpress any media that tries to talk about it, they'll round up all the guns.

These blind fools that support the Republican party would probably continue to support them long after their rights and freedoms have been stripped away as well.

[politicat]

4. I think they're working on all but 2, 3, 7, 11, 13, 19-22, 24-27

1 - Free speech zones, religious indoctrination and funding (via the 10 commandments, In God we Trust, the PoA and Faith Based initiatives); indirect control of the press via threats of non-access to the major outlets and carrots for good spin and arrests for protesting while attempting to redress grievances and attempts to make it illegal to take an issue to the Supreme Court. (That is in the Pledge bill, I believe.)

2 - right to keep and bear arms - They like this one. A lot. Now if only they'd just keep bare arms all the time. Skin cancer and frost bite would take care of a lot of those problems eventually, right? /snark

3 - Quartering of soldiers - Working... other than the fact that I have to buy flak jackets for my brothers because the Army's out. But they're not living with me!

4 - Unreasonable Search and Seizure - PATRIOT Act. No Knock warrants. Sneak and peek warrants. Need I go on?

5 - Double jeopardy, due process, compulsion to testify, deprived of property - We have major DEA confiscations every day of goods only tangentially associated with drug crimes; I believe Terry Nichols (and others) have faced both federal and state courts for essentially the same crimes which violates the spirit of the law, if not the letter (not saying I like TNichols, but the devil's in the exceptions...); Many poor defendants are urged to waive due process and take a plea bargain because we don't have the funding for the legal staff to take them to court.... I'm sure there's more to this. Not working well.

6 - speedy trial, impartial jury and confrontation of witnesses - plea bargaining is eroding the second; speed is purely relative these days and trials can take forever to get going and can last half eternity; I don't know of any cases of secret witnesses, but I do know that some witnesses are not questioned in public.

7 - Trial by jury in civil cases - still functional as far as I know, as long as you don't get tried by the media first.

8 - Cruel and unusual punishment and appropriate bail - not in Arizona. Tent City, where the oranges are rotten, the bologna is green, and most prisoners are not guilty because they're awaiting trial and can't afford bail or it wasn't allowed them. The 8th is under serious assault in many county jails and courts in the Red states (usually due to underfunding, not direct malice.)

9 - Enumeration of rights - Listing the rights doesn't mean those are the only ones we have but that's how the R's act; as if listing the right to assemble and the right to not have an established church means that there can be no further interpretation or understanding developed.

10 - The powers not delegated - Federal government has gotten bigger and more powerful every year. DEA, ATF, others that do tend to step on states' rights; AshKKKroft stepping on CO, AZ, OR and other states that have legalized medical marijuana and Right to Die.... sounds like states' rights might be endangered.

11. Limits rights of federal courts to hear cases - safe enough, but the federal courts have other issues.

12: Election of Pres and VP, electoral college - Bush v. Gore.

13. Slavery Abolished. Still working. I may be a wage slave, but I can quit my job and be bankrupt and live in the streets. I have that CHOICE.

14. Citizenship rights - Getting hazy. Does Louis Padilla have all of the rights of a citizen? What about infants born in the US to illegal immigrant parents who are deported with their illegal immigrant parents or worse, separated from their parents and raised in the US (both cases happen occasionally.)

15 - Race no bar to voting. No, if you're a "house ******* like Condi, Colin and Rod, you can vote. But, yes, I agree.

16 - Income tax authorized. Unless you're a corporation who donates to the RNC or similar. This is very broken.

17 - Senators elected by popular vote. Yes, but are the votes counted properly? Hazy.

18 - Liquor abolished. Repealed by 21. Definitely broken. :silly:

19 - Women's suffrage. Okay, we have the right to vote but usually not the time and why vote when we still don't make as much, have equivalent conditions and access, and still work disproportionately more hours for less pay? Limping along.

20 - Presidential, congressional terms. Working, but don't trust the BFEE with them.

21 - Liquor!! WOO-HOO! This one works. However, I hear rumors in the neo-con Xtian circles about bringing this one back. Dred Scott Redux.

22 - Presidential term limits. Working, but see note on 20.

23 - Presidential vote for DC. Works, but totally under-represented. Largest black community in the US and they get nearly no Federal representation.

24 - Poll tax barred - Except for postage on absentee ballots (which are not 37 cents, but 60 in most states.) Mostly working, but I think only because the Freepers are allergic to the word tax. If they figured out that it meant more money and fewer Democratic votes...
:eyes:

25 - Presidential Disability and succession. Working. Bunnypants is disabled and Cheney is running the show. There's no provision for either incompetence or mental illness, only incapacitation and death... One can be crazy and still be president, it reads.

26 - Voting age -Working, except for in cases mentioned in 15, above.

27 - Congressional pay raises - the longest active amendment process so far (1789-1992); Says that there has to be an election between the time that Congress votes itself a raise and the time that they get it. It works - it lets us throw them out. The problem is that we don't.

Am I being a little flippant? You betcha! Does that mean I'm not disturbed by them? Well....
Tally ends up at 14-13.... You tell me - How well IS the Constitution doing under the Neocons?

Pcat