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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:29 PM
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Columbus dispatch half-hearted for Bush
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:31 PM
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1. fuck them,
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:33 PM
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2. What an idiotic editorial
morons.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:33 PM
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3. Gawd...
Really, really lame. How do they write this stuff without laughing out loud?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:35 PM
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4. So, the press really does buy their own bullshit. Amazing.
Like Jon Stewart told Tucker Carlson, they need to go to journalism school.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:35 PM
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5. Hitler was evil but at least he was consistently evil
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:37 PM
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8. very good! thats it exactly!
he stays on message, yeah the message is all wrong but hey, he stays on it!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:36 PM
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6. Does this affect Ohio come November 2?
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:37 PM
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9. I doubt it.
The last Democratic candidate they endorsed was Wilson. Ohio has gone blue a few times since, no?
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:40 PM
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12. No Doesn't Effect Ohio:
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 10:46 PM by mdguss
The Republicans were trying to get some news by playing this up as an important endorsement--after a week of them telling us that endorsements don't matter. The Dispatch is entitled to their view, their article was well-written, and it may convince a few.

It might effect a few voters, but the media won't tell you (because it's counter-intuative), it's not about undecided voters at this point. It's about finding your voters and turning them out. John Kerry is in an excellent position to win in Ohio and win the electoral college.

The Dispatch has endorsed Republicans since 1920. It's really no suprise and their article is pretty luke-warm about Bush.

But again, turnout is far, far more important. Everybody should get out there and knock on doors.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:46 AM
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33. Ok, I feel better! You are right. The key is turn-out.
At least the Dispatch's stupid editorial might discourage some Republicans from voting at all. They certainly provided no reason to vote for the chimp.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:36 PM
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7. Bleccchh!
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 10:37 PM by jimshoes
What a wishy washy endorsement for an incompetent. Why did they bother.

edit:sp
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:37 PM
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10. Um, are they calling for a draft?
Since Sept. 11, Americans have been ready and willing to sacrifice to avenge the attacks and prevent future ones. Bush shouldn't hesitate any longer: Enlist them in the fight. That might be one way to heal the deep division that now afflicts the country.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:39 PM
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11. this part really inspires confidence...not
If he is elected, Bush should make good on his pledge to reduce the deficit by half. Better yet, he should eliminate it. The president refuses to acknowledge mistakes, and that is unlikely to change in a second term. But he still should correct them.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:44 PM
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13. are you kidding? a newspaper says this? arent they supposed to make sense
in their writing?

definitely among the more idiotic things possible to say. should bush win a second term, he wont do any of the things we need or would be good for the country, but he still should do them...

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:48 PM
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17. unreal isnt it? They should have passed on endorsing him
if they couldnt give it to Kerry.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:10 PM
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21. serious. its just downright bizarre
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:59 PM
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19. ok, if he refuses to acknowledge mistakes, how can he correct them?...
whoever wrote that should be kicked in the head.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:44 AM
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31. Yes, that is the most ridiculous thing I've read today.
Bush should eliminate the deficit if he gets four more years.

He should also nominate Dennis Kucinich to the US Supreme Court, but he won't.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:46 PM
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14. Hit em!
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 10:47 PM by tedoll78
To whom it may concern:

Well, it looks like idiocy is alive and well at the Columbus Dispatch.

One thing that strikes me in particular about your editorial is that the word "jobs" appears not a single time. How insensitive to the thousands who are struggling to feed their families. And how very convenient.

Should Ohioans be stupid enough to send this man back to the White House, they will reap what they will have sewn: Further loss of jobs, lack of real security measures at home, education quality declining, healthcare costs rising, wildlands diminishing. And your paper seeks more of this record?

Remember the definition of the word "insanity?" Doing the same thing over and over again? Expecting a different result? Need I say more?

Tom


---

Not the most eloquent, but it sure did feel damn good.
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mdguss Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:47 PM
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16. Rather than vent at them:
Get out in the field, knock on doors and make phone calls. It's not really worth getting upset about.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:13 PM
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22. very well said tom.... they clearly need to hear this + lose subscriptions
over it.
who would want to read a paper that cant even make basic journalistic, political, moral or economic sense of any kind for their readers?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:23 PM
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25. If you haven't sent it yet, you may want to correct a small spelling error
It should be "...they will reap what they will have sown"

Excellent letter, however.

sw
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:27 PM
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26. Oh well..
Didn't catch it.. but thanks! :hi:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:35 PM
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27. No matter -- it's a VERY well-said piece!
Good job! :thumbsup:
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:46 PM
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15. The Dispatch gives convincing reasons for endorsing Bush:
Since President Bush took office, this newspaper repeatedly has criticized his administration's borrow-and-spend fiscal policies, which have resulted in massive deficits that weaken America.

The Dispatch also strongly opposed the invasion of Iraq, contending the case had not been made that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction or posed an imminent threat to this nation.

Bush has vastly expanded the reach of the federal government with the Medicare drug benefit and the No Child Left Behind Act. The first will add more than $500 billion to the nation's debt over the next decade. The NCLB, despite its worthy goals, is a vast federal encroachment into education, traditionally a preserve of state and local government. This act unnecessarily pre-empted state initiatives to bring more accountability to elementary and secondary education.

At the same time he has increased the government's obligations, Bush has slashed taxes, resulting in the highest budget deficits in U.S. history.

etc., etc., etc.
The Dispatch Editor needs to send HIS kids to Iraq to "stand firm".
What an S.O.B.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:59 PM
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18. I'm canceling my subscription...
I'm actually surprised they're endorsing him. CD is probably Ohio's biggest paper.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:14 PM
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23. thats the way to do it
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dpl202 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:37 PM
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28. Me too
In fact, I just got my subscription renewal invoice in the mail today.
Guess where I'm forwarding that to. It get sent to the editorial board with a big fat "F YOU!" written on it and a letter to the editor aksing how they can sleep at night after they basically explain to us that Bush can lie to get us into a war with no end in sight, build a huge deficit from a large surplus, and oversee the largest loss of job growth since pre-depression, because Kerry hasn't given them a detailed explaination of how he would fix Bush's mess in Iraq? Never mind Bush hasn't come up with a plan either! They hold themselves up as these thoughtfull, standard bearers of the press, but in the end they cannot bring themselves to endorse someone from "the other side" for the first time in one hundred years. Instead, they stick with there "team". As if this was a sporting event and not our fricking LIVES.

.............I can't sleep!.........

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:05 AM
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36. Hi dpl202!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:00 PM
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20. That was Faux-grade bullshit.
GOD was that lame. These people just hate Kerry for the sake of hating Kerry and disguise it with hypothesized and liberal-bashing stupidity that I'm not sure their STAFF can even swallow. They read not ONE word of his plan, speeches or debate - they just flat out don't want a president who tells the truth and speaks higher than a fifth-grade intelligence level.

A second Lancelot Link debacle will pave the way for nuclear firestorms and unequivocal national bankruptcy. You elect Asshat, you elect his Hydrahead cabinet, and with deathmongers like Rumsfester and Cheney scampering around, there's EVERY reason to fear that scenario. Countries will be building nuke weapons like never before. Saddam was Big Bird compared to the damage we've caused Iraq.

Is "strong leadership" SERIOUSLY what we have now? Can this paper HONESTLY, with all seriousness, look me in the eye with a straight face and tell me that? It would take every ounce of nerve, believe me; especially since I'm friends with a reservist who will be heading to Vietraq for his second tour, this one potenially lasting several months.

"Standing firm" is one day going to piss off an insane dictatorship who will vow at any cost to "stand firmer". * is already causing some of the armed forces to desert and potential recruits to say "fuck this" with his oilfest destiny bullshit. All we're doing is creating hatred for America, and by endorsing this tardster, you're endorsing the world's scorn.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:16 PM
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24. Dispatch is a Rethug newspaper. * should be worried.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:44 PM
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29. Here are the email addresses - president to desk editors
amazzocco@dispatch.com,blawhorn@dispatch.com,dvarney@dispatch.com,mcurtin@dispatch.com,bmarrison@dispatch.com,amurphy@dispatch.com,gkiefer@dispatch.com,amiller@dispatch.com,dhughes@dispatch.com,karnott@dispatch.com,mplageman@dispatch.com,jhallett@dispatch.com,dhaddix@dispatch.com,gdutton@dispatch.com,jriepenhoff@dispatch.com,rcarter@dispatch.com,jweiker@dispatch.com,pporter@dispatch.com,mpramik@dispatch.com,jsheban@dispatch.com,kstammen@dispatch.com,tturner@dispatch.com,bwolf@dispatch.com,bjames@dispatch.com,sgrote@dispatch.com,gsheller@dispatch.com,odewolfe@dispatch.com,medwards@dispatch.com,mcedwards@dispatch.com,sbeatty@dispatch.com,prudell@dispatch.com,rwoodruf@dispatch.com,jstahler@dispatch.com,hgrant@dispatch.com,jjohnson@dispatch.com,clease@dispatch.com,bcarmen@dispatch.com,mharden@dispatch.com,tdoulin@dispatch.com,jfutty@dispatch.com,jphillips@dispatch.com,bruth@dispatch.com,athomas@dispatch.com,sherri.williams@dispatch.com, rmessinger@dispatch.com,mferench@dispatch.com,shoholik@dispatch.com, rvitale@dispatch.com,jriskind@dispatch.com,jtorry@dispatch.com,mfisher@dispatch.com,nchordas@dispatch.com,smitchel@dispatch.com,spairan@dispatch.com,bpfeiffe@dispatch.com,dgoodwin@dispatch.com,jpierron@dispatch.com,tcollins@dispatch.com,japplegate@dispatch.com,tbendyck@dispatch.com,dbright@dispatch.com,pcorbitt@dispatch.com,tdavis@dispatch.com,elawson@dispatch.com,mlynch@dispatch.com,bmcculli@dispatch.com,ymcdavis@dispatch.com,mofarrell@dispatch.com,cpauley@dispatch.com,sromine@dispatch.com,esenff@dispatch.com,josh.wright@dispatch.com
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:41 AM
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30. The word "If" is used over-and-over in that editorial.
"If he is elected, Bush should make good on his pledge to reduce the deficit by half. Better yet, he should eliminate it. The president refuses to acknowledge mistakes, and that is unlikely to change in a second term. But he still should correct them."

If pigs have wings, they should fly.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:44 AM
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32. This is very disappointing. The Dispatch did a poor job of journalism.
They obviously ignored Kerry's excellent (and very consistent) record in the Senate. They ignored Kerry's published plans for Iraq. They ignored the fact that * is such a dangerous freaking moran, even a lateral move would be an improvement! Kerry is far better than a lateral move.

I can't say how disgusted I am with my home-state's newspapers. This really makes me mad.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:47 AM
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34. I noticed on several Ohio newspaper sites the other day
memorials to the Ohioans who were killed in Iraq. The Columbus Dispatch has just invited more of the same.

They're going to be printing a lot more memorials in their paper, thanks to their endorsement of someone who is clearly insane.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:21 AM
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35. kick
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