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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:39 AM
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more RW-biased "reportage" from the NYTimes
this is too low:


http://nytimes.com/2004/10/24/politics/campaign/24points.html?pagewanted=all


"To Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W. Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.

That, at least, is the conclusion of Steve Sailer, a conservative columnist at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential I.Q.'s. During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated from Mr. Bush's SAT score (1206) that his I.Q. was in the mid-120's, about 10 points lower than Al Gore's.

Mr. Kerry's SAT score is not known, but now Mr. Sailer has done a comparison of the intelligence tests in the candidates' military records. They are not formal I.Q. tests, but Mr. Sailer says they are similar enough to make reasonable extrapolations.

Mr. Bush's score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120's, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry's I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer's extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. "People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can't understand," Professor Gottfredson said.

Many Americans still believe a report that began circulating on the Internet three years ago, and was quoted in "Doonesbury," that Mr. Bush's I.Q. was 91, the lowest of any modern American president. But that report from the non-existent Lovenstein Institute turned out to be a hoax.

You might expect Kerry campaign officials, who have worried that their candidate's intellectual image turns off voters, to quickly rush out a commercial trumpeting these new results, but for some reason they seem to be resisting the temptation.

Upon hearing of their candidate's score, Michael Meehan, a spokesman for the senator, said merely: "The true test is not where you start out in life, but what you do with those God-given talents. John Kerry's 40 years of public service puts him in the top percentile on that measure."
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:41 AM
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1. As soon as I saw this in the article I stopped reading.....
"Steve Sailer, a conservative columnist"

why would the NY Times print this crap?

There are so many lies to whore for Bush and such little time.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:32 AM
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2. a conservative columnist
from a WEB MAGAZINE!!!

since when have the ezines had so much cred at the times?

oh, that's right. when they found some right-wing ones to... "balance"
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:34 AM
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3. "he says something complicated they can't understand"
got to get that in.


you know, "NO ONE UNDERSTANDS kerry!!", yeah, that's the ticket!
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:39 AM
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4. 5 minutes of watching each speak and you know who is smarter.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:57 AM
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5. Too bad Dubya destroyed most of his brain cells back in the 70s
Although he frankly looks like he's done most of the destroying in the last 4 years
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