Newsday - Bush may execute two soldiers who rfused to go on mission

[Quixote1818]

I just got the following in an e-mail message. The link to Newsday was no longer working. Is their any truth to this?



Newsday today speculated that the US military may actually be
considering reviving the long-discredited, barbaric policies of the
past which involved executing soliders who raise reasonable
objections to orders issued by incompetent commanders.

Newsday said Bush may execute two soldiers who recently refused to go
on a suicide mission in broken down vehicales with contaminated jet
fuel.

This is an outrage! These soldiers did nothing wrong! They actually
helped the military identify an important problem which has been
causing countless un-mnecessary US soldier deaths in Iraq!

There is no excuse for ANY of them to be harmed in any way! CALL THE
WHITE HOUSE and DEMAND that Bush intervene on behalf of these
soldiers! He OWES them a pardon because it was BUSH'S incompetent
planning which caused this situation in the first place!

These people did not commit "mutiny", they acted as patriots by
telling the military that the mission they were asked to go on would
undermine the military's efforts in iraq!

The military's old and outdated, irrelevant policies of the past
which reward incompetent commanders and punish smart and decisive
soldiers- are policies which need to be changed, and they need to be
changed BEFORE NOVEMBER 2ND while the pressure is still on Bush to
avoid angering the public!

SPREAD THIS MESSAGE FAR AND WIDE AND BOMBARD THE WHITE HOUSE WITH
PHONE CALLS AND LETTERS- THESE SOLDIER'S LIVES ARE AT STAKE!

If we wait even ONE DAY, it may be TOO LATE!

Here is the link that no longer works: http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-
vptur224014338oct22,0,1731490.story

[lolly]

1. How Reliable is this?

It seems to me that Rove and co. just want the whole mutiny soldiers thing to go away--the more it's talked about, the worse the whole operation looks.

[Quixote1818]

2. I don't know how reliable it is. Thats what I wanted to find out.

[skooooo]

4. Exactly..

...and if it IS true...

[atre]

21. The only thing they cite is their own speculation

I don't give this much credence.

[FellowAmerican]

3. No way . .

that this is true. Without a ligitimate link there is no proof. Find the real story and post a link. I just don't believe this. I heard that some of these soldiers were up for court martial, but not death! Come on, use your common sense!

[AndyTiedye]

20. They Will Wait Until After The Election At Least

then all bets are off.

[high density]

5. I don't see anybody in the nation supporting that decision.

I raise the bullshit flag.

[mikehiggins]

6. I didnt' see that in Sat or Sun Newsday

I suspect its a fraud.

There has to be a court-martial, if the army goes that route, and do you really think they would execute the Reservists? Maybe jail time or something but the death sentence? They aren't in Texas, you know.

[mikehiggins]

7. I didnt' see that in Sat or Sun Newsday

I suspect its a fraud.

There has to be a court-martial, if the army goes that route, and do you really think they would execute the Reservists? Maybe jail time or something but the death sentence? They aren't in Texas, you know.

[TwilightZone]

8. The link does work. It's messed up because of the spaces.

Try this one: http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vptur224014338oct22,0,1024615,print.story

[Lefta Dissenter]

13. exactly...

and it's an OPINION piece, and nowhere does it say that US soldiers will be executed. It's just a little bit of playing with history. Interesting read, but I don't think the firing squad is polishing its rifles just yet.

[TwilightZone]

17. Correct.

This e-mail isn't much better than the "Kerry's going to ban the bible" e-mails the Freepers send around. It certainly doesn't represent the content of the article.

[DinahMoeHum]

19. Absolutely concur. Folks, please use some sense. . .

No US soldier will be executed by our own. The public will not stand for it because too many of us didn't approve of this war to begin with. Besides, G*d willing, Bush ain't gonna be around to pass judgement on it anyway.

:shrug:

[TwilightZone]

24. Good point. If people think that there is a lot of anti-war sentiment now

just imagine if Bush executed someone for mutiny or desertion.

Military enlistment rates would plummet, and the public outrage would dwarf anything seen in recent times.

[mzmolly]

9. The link works for me? Try this...

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vptur224014338oct22,0,1731490.story

It was tricky to get it to post, but I think I got it.

[Babel_17]

10. Try this link

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vptur224014338oct22,0,1731490.story

Does it work?

I think your problem might have beem with the copy and paste. I just eliminated the space between characters.

[cliss]

11. There's one fatal flaw to this rumour.

Bush forgets that we now have a VOLUNTEER army. No one is holding a gun to the recruit's head as he signs on. It's actually a "rewards" program where the enlistee gets their college paid for, gets (supposedly) many benefits, and only has to sacrifice "one weekend" a month.

Bush has already loudly proclaimed that there will be NO draft. He shot his big mouth off last week, "Stick with me, no draft here".

Now suppose Bush decides to execute these "traitors". What do you think will happen to the Armed Forces Recruiting offices? Think: cobwebs. The empty sound of crickets chirping.

There is NO WAY they can do something like this with a volunteer military.

[flyingfysh]

12. is there ANY evidence for this?

A non-working URL doesn't qualify.

[Atman]

14. Okay, wait a minute...

"This is an outrage! These soldiers did nothing wrong!"

This may sound strange coming from a strident Bush hater, but they DID do something wrong. They're soldiers who signed up to fight. They disobeyed orders.

I agree that their mission was suicide. In that case, it is their commander who should be brought up on charges for sending ill-prepared troops into such a situation, but the soldiers themselves had no right to disobey orders. They signed up for this shit.

Ultimately, they simply shouldn't be there at all. But can you imagine the difficulty our military would have if, when faced with a real threat, soldiers could opt-out because they were scared? Sorry. The whole situation is a cluster fuck. But that doesn't make what they did "right," it merely makes it understandable.

As for the death penalty...I was about to mention that it couldn't happen in our modern military. But then, many of the things I thought couldn't happen have indeed happened over the last four years. With a withering military, faltering retention and record desertions, BushCo may well think they need to kill a few soldiers to send a message to the rest.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[Cocoa]

15. big surprise, a misleading email

the editorial is ok, pretty interesting, but not what the email says it is.

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vptur224014338oct22,0,1731490.story

[frogfromthenorth2]

16. Crappola.....

[serryjw]

18. This could get very ugly if Bushit is re-selected......

----------quote
In fact, if it can be shown that one or more of the soldiers influenced others to disobey, they may find the crime of Mutiny, under Article 94 added to the list of charges. Mutiny carries the death penalty, even in "peace time."

--------end quote......
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders_2.htm
I seriously doubt if the family & friends of these kids are voting for Bushit

[kokomo]

22. Last soldier executed was in WWII for DESERTION. Bush was a deserter!

Pvt. Eddie Slovik was executed during last days of WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_squad

Bush was a deserter and didn't even get put in the brig for a minute!

[Yunaleska]

23. Don't believe it

But it would be kind of ironic you know? A deserter having others executed for not following orders...

[TankLV]

25. If this were to pass, and I was the parent or relative of one killed by

bush*, I can't tell you what I am thinking I would do, because it would be against this message board's rules, among other things!

[ThoughtCriminal]

26. Bogus speculation - political suicide

They will want this to go away as quietly as possible.

[troublemaker]

27. obvious lie

[Moderator]

28. Locking....

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