Freepers trying voter intimidation already. Check out this email:

[requiem99]

Here it is, word for word.


"You fuckin yellow coward.

You lousy anti-American piece of shit, you fuckin faggot

You get one step out of line on election day or after and we will meet
you face to face cocksuckin traitor!

You will lose. Stay home and keep your mouth shut"




Claims to be "frank hughes" <[e-mail]>" but I'm sure thats not true. Even freepers aren't THAT stupid. Anyone else get an email like this?

[swag]

1. Shouldn't there be an apostrophe in "cocksuckin'"?

[frogfromthenorth2]

5. I think you are right....

[Road Scholar]

19. Fuckin' should have one too!

ROFLMAO
People who write those kinds of things are cowards. They would NEVER say it face to face to someone who could give them an attitude adjustment.They lurk around in the shadows and stalk the weak. I wish I could see them on November 2nd.

[Liberal Veteran]

2. I'd be hunting him down and filing a police report right NOW.

That's a threat of violence and it's illegal.

[dave123williams]

11. Right. It's criminal aggravated harrassment in NY State...

Not sure about where you live, but threatening people is illegal most places.

[mikehiggins]

3. I like the "we" part

even in email these guys don't have the balls to step up to the plate alone.

[NMDemDist2]

4. holy chit!!! no I haven't and hope i don't n/t

[gcomeau]

6. Well....

"claims to be "frank hughes" <[e-mail] >" but I'm sure thats not true. Even freepers aren't THAT stupid. "

I suggest you find out if he is that stupid, just in case. Forward the e-mail to the FBI.

-Grant

[flyingfysh]

7. save the complete message, including the headers

The headers could help someone track down where it is really from.

[Pale_Rider]

10. If you are using Outlook Express ...

... highlight the message, right click and select properties. Then go to the Details tab and the headers will be revealed. Copy n' paste the headers into a suitable email to law enforcement. Do not forward the email without doing this since the headers of the forwarded email will be stripped-off.

[acmavm]

8. Time to call law enforcement. Stay home? Screw them..

[Bluzmann57]

9. In the words of their president

"Bring it on". I haven't recieved that email, but if I do, they better hope I don't find out who they are. Or they at least better hope the police find out who they are before I do.
On edit-any of you wingnuts who may be reading this, I live in Davenport, IA so you are more than welcome to come to this town and find me.

[Atman]

12. Yup...I got a similar one.

It appears that it is not a form letter. It also appears to be coming from one of "our boys" on a Navy ship...

It is from a Micronesian domain. Check the addy...ussamerica. Is this a real naval vessel?

Here is the one I received from Frank...

---

From: frank hughes [e-mail]
Subject: ATMAN? From DU?
Date: October 24, 2004 12:18:14 PM EDT
To: rob@(sorryspammers).com

DO NOT PROMOTE OR TAKE PART IN CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE WHEN YOU LOSE ON 11/2!

YOU ARE A FAGGOT, YELLOW COWARD TRAITOR AND AN ENEMY OF aMERICA.

YO WILL BE MET BY OVERWHELMING FORCE.

[katusha]

16. uss america decommisioned in 1996

http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cv66.htm

[HawkerHurricane]

36. NOT a ship address...

US Navy ships (and those assigned them) get an address that is '[e-mail]' ... for example, If I were aboard USS America (a decommisioned and mothballed ship, btw) my address would be [e-mail]
So, his account name is [e-mail] which is easy to arrange, eh? I could set up a hotmail account [e-mail] in 5 minutes or less.
Military addresses end in .mil, navy ones in navy.mil
Cowards hiding behind anon email addees. Nothing more or less.

[CAcyclist]

44. My brother is in the Navy

He might know

[ThoughtCriminal]

13. Show Full Headers to track the ISP

paste full header here and someone will look up the ISP. Then you can send a complaint to their service provider.

The "From" address in these kind of emails are usually forged.

[lithalle]

17. What I would do...

Is get those headers and then email your ISP. Most ISPs have a team dedicated to abuse who follow up on these types of complaints. I know mine does.

[ThoughtCriminal]

21. True, forwarding to your ISP's abuse email address

might also work - they know how to track the actual sender. But getting a reply from the sender's ISP is a bit more satisfying.

[newyawker99]

30. Hi lithalle!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Guaranteed]

22. I've heard of this guy making threats before, I think...

God help me, I can't remember where, exactly.

But, if someone would search his name in the archives, I bet you'd come up with a lot of stuff (I lost my star a week or two ago).

[funky_bug]

24. Following the instructions for cutting and pasting the headers, then post

I have friends in high places... well, actually, they're in low places, but they can take care of things very quickly.

[Guaranteed]

26. Seriously, I distinctly remember

a "Frank Hughes" mailing threatening letters to DUers, and them being posted in GD, I believe...

[funky_bug]

27. He's not new... and he's indiscriminate

He targets freepers too... I stand on my offer... all I need is the info to get started. My money is on this guy living in AZ... if it's the same guy, he's toast. One of my friends actually works for his provider. They took the complaint immediately and suspended his account.

[requiem99]

29. Here are the headers:

X-Apparently-To: [e-mail] via 216.155.196.145; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: <66.111.4.26>
Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
Received: from 66.111.4.26 (EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.26) by mta193.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:20 -0700
Received: from web2.messagingengine.com (web2.internal <10.202.2.211>) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0253C34382 for <[e-mail]>; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:26:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by web2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 7B6C96E5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:26:13 -0400 (EDT)
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03)
Subject: Hey DUer
To: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:13 -0700
From: "frank hughes" <[e-mail]> Add to Address Book
X-Sasl-Enc: Z51SO3D0E9Wny+ABH4mOXw 1098638773
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Content-Length: 245

[funky_bug]

31. Your friend lives in AZ

Mesa area. His ISP provider has been alerted.

[ThoughtCriminal]

34. How did you get that?

I'm a bit confused on how to read the header.

[funky_bug]

35. I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Seriously, I can't get anyone in trouble... I just have some contacts that have a program and the knowledge to decipher headers and track them.

[DEMolition]

50. Actually...

S/He can't tell you that beceause he doesn't know... Or he thinks he knows, but is wrong. Sorry Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak, nothing personal...

Well, actually, if messagingengine.com COULD have given up this info, but I HIGHLY doubt it as ISP's of all types are very careful about this sort of thing.

Here is how you look at a header like this:

First, there are two proprietary headers that are clearly added by one of the mail servers along the way:

X-Apparently-To: [e-mail] via 216.155.196.145; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:20 -0700
X-Originating-IP: <66.111.4.26>

These are not standard, but give some pretty easy info (this is rather nice actually). It indicates the destination email address first, then, after 'via' it indicates the IP of Yahoo's mail server that received the message.

It also indicates the 'originating IP' which 'should' be the machine it was originally sent from. In this case, it is simply a server in the messagingengine.com domain. It at least tells us the domain of the mail server he used.

Next, is standard info, first the return path which is simply the email address indicated by the user as their return address. This can be faked most easily.

Return-Path: <[e-mail] >

The next headers are also standard and are the ones that are most often used to trace an email message. It is 'stamped' by every server that 'touches it'.

Basically you start at the bottom and read upward. Most often, the bottom most header will indicate the IP of the sender's personal machine unless they used a web interface to send the message, then it would be the IP of the machine that the web interface resides on. This appears the be the case here as you can see that the first entry indicates that the message was received by web2.messagingengine.com, but does not indicate an IP address in the 'from'.

Therefore, it appears that the user sent this via either a web interface or a direct connection to a server in the messagingengine.com domain.

Received: from 66.111.4.26 (EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.26) by mta193.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:20 -0700
Received: from web2.messagingengine.com (web2.internal <10.202.2.211>) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0253C34382 for <[e-mail] >; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:26:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by web2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 7B6C96E5; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:26:13 -0400 (EDT)

This next info is also largely standard. Mostly useless, but not entirely. The Content-Type sometimes will 'give away' a user who is actually overseas. The X-Mailer header, in this case, tells us that it was not sent via any standard email client applications and was likely sent via a web interface.

Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.5 (F2.73; T1.001; A1.64; B3.05; Q3.03)
Subject: Hey DUer
To: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:26:13 -0700
From: "frank hughes" <[e-mail] > Add to Address Book
X-Sasl-Enc: Z51SO3D0E9Wny+ABH4mOXw 1098638773
Message-Id: <[e-mail] >
Content-Length: 245

The best that all of this tells us is that someone at messagingengine.com is the only ones who could be of any help. They would have info on exactly who this person is and the IP they originally sent the message from. Sending anything to fastmail.fm is a waste of time because 1) they are overseas and may not be very cooperative, and 2) they couldn't do anything even if they were here because he is not using their system to send this email message.

I would contact messagingengine.com and see if they will look into this. Unless law enforcement contacts them, they likely would not be very forthcoming with any information to a third party, but would rather indicate they will take care of this internally.

[requiem99]

52. Yes, thats what I thought too.

I'm pretty swish on computers (3 years of tech support experience) but I don't see any way to deduce where the guy is mailing me from short of contacting messagingengine.com

However, I'm not an expert on SMTP, and something in these 2 lines could conceivably indicate the sender's original location. I have no clue what they mean, but I doubt it tells his location based on what I know of SMTP.

X-Sasl-Enc: Z51SO3D0E9Wny+ABH4mOXw 1098638773
Message-Id: <[e-mail]

[ThoughtCriminal]

32. If I'm reading this right

The message should be forwared with a complaint to:
[e-mail]

Include the full headers. The sooner, the better.

Their website is here:
http://www.messagingengine.com/

Even if they are not the starting origin, they will want to know that.

[durablend]

37. Ran the headers through Spamcop...

Fwd a copy to "[e-mail]" as well.

[doni_georgia]

49. Frank Hughes served on the USS America from 1941-1945 His son

has been looking for information on his dad's service. Son's name John Hughes from Sioux Falls, SD. Frank Hughes passed away in 1993.

[AngryOldDem]

43. This wasn't the dude who was threatening Vetwife a few weeks back, was it?

[AndyTiedye]

14. Whoever it is is afraid to even use an American Email Address. ".fm"?

[durablend]

38. Well that's why they used it!

DUH! ;)

[jimshoes]

15. I'd be saying ...Smile for the camera

You soon to be toothless shit eatin' piece of filth.

[dave123williams]

18. My reply to this guy...

Frank,

We just *loved* your email here; so funny. I think I'll go to the polls
extra early just to vote out your dimwit, lying douchebag of a President.

Dave Williams
Santa Monica, California

P.s. You're probably going to lose the Senate, too.

P.p.s. God Bless America, where we can vote fools out.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"You fuckin yellow coward.

You lousy anti-American piece of shit, you fuckin faggot

You get one step out of line on election day or after and we will meet
you face to face cocksuckin traitor!

You will lose. Stay home and keep your mouth shut"

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Send him this!

http://www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.pdf

and then file a police report! :hi:

[funky_bug]

23. Awesome, incognito!

BTW - this sounds like the guy that started hassling me a few months back. He has a history of searching out DU'ers and sending them threatening e-mails. If it's the same guy, I'm surprised to see he is finally back at it. I have some computer-nerd friends that took care of him awhile back, if you get my drift. Wow... he must have had to save for a long time to replace his system. Keep all the headers, forward the e-mail to me, and I'll make sure my friends know he's back. He'll be out of business by midnight tonight.

[politick]

28. lol

that's great. And he'll need it too, since our Leader has assured us there will be no draft during his second term. Nope. Not even a little one. In fact, the best way to ensure against a draft is to elect him.

[Shadow30]

25. Stay home,not a chance....

...no repug is keeping me from voting,they can cram it up there over sized butts!

[Arkana]

33. Hey, Mr. Hughes

shove it up your Twinkie-padded ass, you stupid inbred hick.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Intimidating people to not vote is illegal. (nt)

[LynnTheDem]

40. Hitler sure would have LOVED these little nazi brownshirts.

"stay home and keep your mouth shut" was Hitler's message, too.

Why do freepers hate democracy? If they really want a dictator, why don't they JUST MOVE to a nice dictatorship where they can be totally safe from terrorism and progressives...like North Korea.

[DaveofCali]

41. Don't you just love those Freepers.....

[jmowreader]

42. I got one of those the other day. Here's what to do...

Open the message--don't just use the preview pane, but actually open it into its own window.

Display the headers, then select all and copy.

Go to http://tips.fbi.gov and send it in.

They have agents standing by to read what comes in to this address.

* * * * *

If he sends you another one, ask him why he supports the Reverend Moon.

[Joe Momma]

45. can i have my early ballot back?

this really scares me.

[WilliamPitt]

46. AZ_Joe strikes again

[LTR]

48. Yeah, it's him

He's used Fastmail for his usual dumping of filth, and with diferent accounts.

Forward the offending email to Fastmail and his IP (Comcast).

[doni_georgia]

47. That's a federal offense - contact the FBI

[doni_georgia]

51. Think I might have found your guy!!!!

Frank Hughes son is John Hughes. There is a John Hughes who regularly posts articles on Free Republic. Google the name.

[LTR]

53. Frank Hughes is likely a phony name

He has often gone by the name AZ_Joe, but he's been booted off FR a couple times at least.

Has also used:

Horace Gutman
Johnny Nelson
Longstrong
Tony Zappa

There's a few others as well.