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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:06 PM
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help me fire back at this email- it must be a hoax
I got this email from someone I know who has sent me other incorrect emails about Theresa Heinz Kerry. The other ones I have googled and disproved easily but this one I can't find anything about online. I could just email back and point out that John is running for president and not Theresa but I'd like more... And I have already replied to her email with facts about how Theresa has not donated money to terrorist orgs. I hate this shit. Help!



Subject: FW: MORE ABOUT TERRY KERRY

I checked and my bottle of Heinz catsup says "Product of Canada"! Guess I'll be checking out all the Heinz products at the store! Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles.Yep...."Made in Mexico." Check some of your Heinz products.
Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Terry Kerry aka/ Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia.
Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States. Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all
those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.
This message was NOT approved by John Kerry. Every American needs to see this list of companies that the Democratic Presidential nominee's wife owns and controls. Do you find it bothersome that she would have control over him (bucks talk) and he could sell out our entire country??? Please read the following:
John Kerry's Wife
Do you find it strange that Kerry's wife is never with him?
Do you find it strange that you never hear any thing about her?
This may be why!
As time goes on, we're just getting to know the possible future First Lady of the United States of America, and it is quite interesting.
You'll be hearing even more about Terry Kerry aka/ Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Democratic front-runner.
She has quite a track record, especially when it comes to the causes she donates to. One of her favorite charities is the Tides Foundation. What is that, you ask? This foundation sends hundreds of millions of dollars to groups that protested the invasion of Iraq; that demands open U.S. borders; and provides legal defense for suspected terrorists. Among other groups supported by Kerry's wife: Ramsey Clark's International Action Center.This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered to defend Saddam Hussein.Another group seeks to ease restrictions on immigration from terrorist nations. Another group has links to the terrorist group Hamas. And on and on.
American jobs are OUTSOURCED by John F. Kerry and his wife Terry Kerry aka/Teresa Heinz-Kerry!
We need to ask: Why not manufacture in America and ship finished products overseas?
How many American workers are in these Heinz overseas factories?

Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife owns business interests in all of these countries.... I don't think John Kerry's Vietnam service is going to make people look the other way on this stuff. THIS NEEDS TO BE SENT TO EVERYONE!!CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT HIS PRESIDENCY?
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:09 PM
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1. Kerry already said that he has nothing to do with Heinz...
Tell this guy you'll send him the stuff on Halliburton except you would probably crash his hard drive.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:09 PM
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2. here's how to answer
write back, "please take me off your email list."

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:10 PM
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3. Welcome to DU
She's never with him? She's with him all the time.

I'm not sure I'd bother with the person who sent you this.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:11 PM
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4. Even the conservatives on MSNBC
like Joe Scarborough admit that Theresa has no say in the day to day operations of the Heinz companies. She is an heir who has an honorary position on the board of directors. She makes no decisions regarding how Heinz conducts its businesses.

This is just a silly smokescreen issue for the repukelicans, just like that lesbian comment was last week. I have been arguing for a month now that if their candidate had a record worth defending, they would be discussing that instead of looking for dirt on Kerry. That usually shuts them right up. Try it. Good luck.

:kick:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:12 PM
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5. WTF???
Another newbie bullshit post...

:wtf:

RL
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:13 PM
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6. Check Snopes.com
They already put this one to rest. I know, because I sent the Snopes link to my mother.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:17 PM
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9. http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:14 PM
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7. Not a true word in the entire spiel.
No American worker has ever lost a job to Heinz factories in other countries, because all Heinze factories produce products for the country where they are located. Snopes has debunked this crap pretty throughly.

First, Teresa has no controlling interest in Heinz, she actually owns less than 4% of the company.

That alone debunks the rest of the nonsense.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:16 PM
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8. When in doubt: 'snopes' it
Great site to debunk the rumor mill. they have a search engine to help you track down subjects.
http://www.snopes.com/snopes.asp

THK's first husband was a Senator and member of the GOP. She has said the party left her, swinging too far right.

She does not run the Heinz Corp. so she does not make any decisions re outsourcing. She does run the Heinz Charities foundation. Heinz Corp makes their own decisions on outsourcing AND donated to the GOP.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:17 PM
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10. Just tell 'em to go f*ck themselves
and Bush has outsourced and lost more American jobs than any president since Hoover. He has also lost more American lives due to invasion of Iraq than at any time since Vietnam.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:17 PM
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11. i agree with the others, but
thk has nothing, nothing to do with the heinz company.
anyway, they make FOOD products. you have to make them where the food grows. you gonna ship tomatoes here, make ketchup and send it back? the did this stuff ages ago.

kerry does not "blame it on george bush." he correctly points out that the tax structure, put in place by bush REWARDS it. that is all he says he will stop, that is all he can stop. he is very honest about what the federal govt can and should do about it. george can't even spell it.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:18 PM
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12. Honestly I think you could have found this easily on your own.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:24 PM
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15. really, I googled it but didn't think to check factcheck
so thanks anyways.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:21 PM
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13. Honestly, welcome to DU
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 01:22 PM by helnwhls
Don't let the "I am so much more evolved than you" posters put you off.
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:22 PM
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14. Heinz doesn't own Heinz -- detailed statement from company
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 01:22 PM by rlev1223
March 2004:

http://www.heinz.com/jsp/presidential_statement.pdf.

H. J. Heinz Company Confirms Its Widely Held Public Ownership
And Non-Partisan Status
Pittsburgh, PA, March 22, 2004

– In light of some misleading speculation, the H. J.Heinz Company would like to make clear that neither Mrs. Teresa Heinz Kerry, Senator
John Kerry nor any member of their family is involved in the management or board of the H. J. Heinz Company (NYSE:HNZ). They have no involvement in the Heinz® Ketchup business or any of the company’s other brands or products. The H. J. Heinz Company, in accordance with its corporate governance policies, is a non-partisan organization.
Neither Mrs. Heinz Kerry nor Senator Kerry nor any of the Heinz trusts or endowments –either individually or collectively – holds a significant percentage of shares of the H. J.Heinz Company. In 1995 the Heinz Endowments and family trusts sold a large percentage of Heinz shares in a secondary share offering to diversify their holdings. As a result, their current holdings are under 4 percent.
There is no connection between any philanthropic programs of the H. J. Heinz Company and its Foundation and the Heinz family interests (including the Howard Heinz Endowment, the Vira Heinz Endowment, and the Heinz Family Philanthropies).

Currently, 60% of the sales of the H. J. Heinz Company are outside the United States and to accommodate those customers by providing facilities closer to those markets, the company maintains a number of overseas facilities that provide products for consumers in
those markets. This allows Heinz to pack the freshest ingredients, tailor its recipes to local tastes and deliver the final products in a timely and efficient manner. In the United States, Heinz makes its flagship ketchup in factories in Fremont, Ohio; Muscatine, Iowa;
and Stockton, California.

www.heinz.com/news.


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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:28 PM
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16. OK, ignoring the lies about the Heinz Kerry connection to Heinz Co.
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 01:28 PM by high density
How many companies ship food globally? Not many. Any international food company, be it Heinz, McDonalds, Burger King, Pepsi, or Coke, has plants around the world to supply their products more locally to the intended market. Shipping tons of condiments around the world doesn't sound too economically feasible, and I hope Republicans, of all people, would be able to understand that.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:29 PM
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17. my heinz ketchup says made in the usa
i buy vlasic pickles and they are usa made too
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:29 PM
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18. Tell this idiot, and every other idiot who doesn't understand ,
the difference between an international company, which H.J.Heinz has been for approx 70 years, and a company who goes off shore to evade taxes or takes plants overseas to take advantage of cheap labor. There is help out there for these ignorant people if they want to get it.

Saying that, TKH has nothing to do with the Heinz company. The Heinz charitable trust she oversees owns 4% of the stock and she disperses the funds to needy causes.
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