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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:44 PM
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Can someone quickly find me Kerry's quote during the debate
that one can be consistent and be wrong? I am needling a RW on another forum.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:45 PM
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1. Which debate?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:47 PM
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3. Any of them. I think that it was in the third, but then I think that he
mentioned something like that in all three.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:46 PM
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2. I think he said one could be "certain and be wrong"??
But I don't have the exact quote...
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benito Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:47 PM
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4. http://www.debates.org/pages/debtrans.html
This will bring you to the transcripts
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benito Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:49 PM
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5. here it is
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004a.html

KERRY: Well, first of all, I appreciate enormously the personal comments the president just made. And I share them with him. I think only if you're doing this -- and he's done it more than I have in terms of the presidency -- can you begin to get a sense of what it means to your families. And it's tough. And so I acknowledge that his daughters -- I've watched them.

I've chuckled a few times at some of their comments.

(LAUGHTER)

And...

BUSH: I'm trying to put a leash on them.

(LAUGHTER)

KERRY: Well, I know. I've learned not to do that.

(LAUGHTER)

And I have great respect and admiration for his wife. I think she's a terrific person...

BUSH: Thank you.

KERRY: ... and a great first lady.

But we do have differences. I'm not going to talk about a difference of character. I don't think that's my job or my business.

But let me talk about something that the president just sort of finished up with. Maybe someone would call it a character trait, maybe somebody wouldn't.

But this issue of certainty. It's one thing to be certain, but you can be certain and be wrong.

It's another to be certain and be right, or to be certain and be moving in the right direction, or be certain about a principle and then learn new facts and take those new facts and put them to use in order to change and get your policy right.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:00 PM
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7. Yes! That's the one! Thanks a lot
He was referring to a local politician - that we both detest - who said that he was consistently in support of a project - that we both fought against.

So this RWers replied, on the message board:

"It's good to be consistent, but not consistently wrong" And I just laughed, wondering whether someone stole his identity. So now he is trying to be smarmy, rep;ying that Kerry is not consistent.. Never mind that the debate is not about Kerry but about that phrase but then, they always do this.

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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:26 PM
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8. wow, someone posts a question and you have the
answer in 2 minutes. I love this DU site. Too bad the government didn't work as fast as some people here. Thanks benito.

Kerry on...
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benito Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:34 PM
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9. THANKS!
I don't have all of the answers, but I know where to find them! haha
:hi:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:54 PM
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6. Here Ya Go:
From Sept. 30th debate:

<snip>

KERRY: Well, I know. I've learned not to do that.

(LAUGHTER)

And I have great respect and admiration for his wife. I think she's a terrific person...

BUSH: Thank you.

KERRY: ... and a great first lady.

But we do have differences. I'm not going to talk about a difference of character. I don't think that's my job or my business.

But let me talk about something that the president just sort of finished up with. Maybe someone would call it a character trait, maybe somebody wouldn't.

But this issue of certainty. It's one thing to be certain, but you can be certain and be wrong.

It's another to be certain and be right, or to be certain and be moving in the right direction, or be certain about a principle and then learn new facts and take those new facts and put them to use in order to change and get your policy right.

What I worry about with the president is that he's not acknowledging what's on the ground, he's not acknowledging the realities of North Korea, he's not acknowledging the truth of the science of stem-cell research or of global warming and other issues.

And certainty sometimes can get you in trouble.

<snip>

Link (quote near the end): http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004a.html

:hi:
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004a.html
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