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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:09 PM
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52% Kerry 42% Bush ILLINOIS poll!! ABC poll
80% Kerry In Chicago
12% Bush

57% bush Collar counties
39% Kerry

57% Bush Down state
38%



70% Obama Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! :bounce::bounce:
20% Keyes



This was just shown on my local ABC news. It's an ABC poll. :hi:
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:10 PM
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1. Did we really think Kerry would lose Illinois?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:11 PM
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No.
But this is the biggest lead I've seen to date. AND LOOK at the Obama/Keyes race! Funny!!!!!!!! :bounce:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:12 PM
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4. The Tribune was floating that idea a month ago
I think they were just trying to lure in some campaign ad revenue for WGN.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:34 AM
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23. You're Right...Gore Carried It By Twelve...
I want that lead in MI...

I want a 3-5 lead in OH


I want a 2-4 lead in FL


I want a 3-5 lead PN


Then I know the election is won and the fascist junta will soon be vanished from the White House
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:11 PM
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2. Similar to the Trib poll results this morning
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-0410240038oct24,1,1278503.story?coll=chi-news-hed

Democrats' grip on state firm
Kerry, Obama both in control going into home stretch, poll says

By Rick Pearson and John Chase
Tribune staff reporters
Published October 24, 2004

Once thought a swing state that could tip the balance in national political campaigns, Illinois now appears cemented firmly in the Democratic camp, with the party's candidates for president and U.S. Senate holding solid leads heading into Election Day, a new Tribune/WGN-TV poll shows.

But the final Tribune survey of the 2004 election campaign also found that a sizable share of Illinois voters who intend to cast a ballot for Democrat John Kerry say they are motivated more by a dislike for President Bush than an eagerness to back the Massachusetts senator.

Bush's candidacy in the state also is plagued by continuing dissatisfaction over his handling of the war in Iraq and the economy at home, the poll showed. Voters displayed broad pessimism about the nation's ability to end its major military commitment in Iraq within the next several years.

In the presidential race, the poll found Kerry with the support of 50 percent of Illinois voters, while Bush had 42 percent and 7 percent were undecided. Kerry's 8-percentage-point advantage compares with a 49 percent to 40 percent lead he held over Bush in a Tribune poll one month ago.

In the Senate contest, Democrat Barack Obama maintained a commanding lead over Republican Alan Keyes--66 percent to 19 percent, with 9 percent undecided. If there's any glimmer of good news in the numbers for Keyes it is that Obama's sizable advantage actually was slightly bigger in the September poll.

-SNIP-
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:11 PM
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3. It disturbs me.......
that bush has such support outside of Chicago but 21 EVs are 21 EVs
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:13 PM
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5. Tell me about it!
I live just 60 miles South of Chicago and this place is COVERED with Bush/Cheney yard signs and bumperstickers. It's DISGUSTING!
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:17 PM
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9. in_cog, how can you stand it?
I honestly can't imagine what it must be like living in a republican stronghold. I never have and I pray to god I never do.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:36 PM
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17. It's AWFUL and DEPRESSING as hell!
Everywhere I go I see Bush, Bush, Bush. It sucks and pisses me off every time I see a Bush sign or bumpersticker. There's actually a Keyes sign in a yard just across the street! :puke: It's almost over though and then I can GLOAT! My Kerry stickers will stay on my car for a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:17 PM
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10. Think of it this way..
The Chicagoans who are living under the biggest terror threat are the ones voting Kerry by an 8-to-1 margin.

Meanwhile, Bush is getting votes from yokels who think that the terra-ists are going to attack their small town's Wal-Mart.. :eyes:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:14 PM
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6. Kerry's going to do better than 39% in the collar counties
I think he might win Lake County, IL
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:17 PM
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8. I sure hope so!
:hi:
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:23 PM
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12. Doubtful
Trib poll today shows otherwise, and collar counties RARELY go Democratic.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:33 PM
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16. Democrats are competitive in Lake County, and do win countywide
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 11:04 PM by xray s
http://www.co.lake.il.us/cntyclk/elections/electionresults/default.asp

1996 General Election
BOB DOLE....... REP 93,149 45.51%
BILL CLINTON....DEM 93,315 45.59%

2000 General Election
AL GORE/JOE LIEBERMAN................... DEM 115,058 47.51%
GEORGE W. BUSH/DICK CHENEY.............. REP 120,988 49.96%


2002 General Election
US Senator
Richard J. Durbin (DEM). . . . . . 92,936 53.61%
Jim Durkin (REP) . . . . . . . . 77,511 44.71%

Sec'y Of State
Jesse White (DEM). . . . . . . . 107,019 61.97%
Kris O'Rourke Cohn (REP) . . . . . 61,564 35.65%

Comptroller
Daniel W. Hynes (DEM) . . . . . . 89,520 54.12%
Thomas J. Ramsdell (REP) . . . . . 67,711 40.93%



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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:37 PM
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19. I stand corrected
thanks!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:15 PM
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7. Kerry's most excellent Illinois venture!
May it presage what happens across the entire nation!!
:kick: :D :kick::D:kick:
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Suzie57 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:22 PM
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11. I Live in Madison County
due East of St. Louis. We are downstate and this county is definitely going Kerry. My husband couldn't sleep Thursday night after the Cards won the playoff and was listening to the callers on KMOX, St. Louis talk radio, and he informed me when I was leaving for work Friday morning that Kerry is going to win big.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:23 PM
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13. How come Kerry is polling so poorly in the Blue Collar areas?
:wtf:???

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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:24 PM
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14. 80% Chicago!
That's amazing!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:27 PM
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15. Thank G-D for Chicago!!! n/t
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:36 PM
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18. Alan Keyes is a hate monger....
....and delusional.
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progressivedancer Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:46 PM
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21. Once again
I will say this once again, Chicago has OVERWHELMING INFLUENCE ON ILLINOIS. For example, the Chicago neighborhoods of Andersonville, Ukranian Village, Edgewater, Lakeview, Wriglyville, Rogerspark and neighboring town Evanston probably have more people combined than all of North and South Dakota combined. Whoever Chicago goes for the rest of the state goes for, that's why the collar counties hate us. I say "HA" I think collar counties has a greater chance of going Kerry than what ABC is claiming.

Also, as Chicago grows and more people come in and out of Chicago from the collar counties, there is probably a great chance that we can convert them. Knowledge is infectious and the collar counties are just uninformed. I hope Chicago people will be able to spread the word as mobility increases.
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:44 PM
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20. I think I belong in Chicago
I'm in that 38% downstate. Sometimes I feel like I'm wading in a Republican cesspool, because I have to pass a lot of bigass Bush/Cheney and Keyes signs every day on my way to work. I think they're overcompensating and trying to overwhelm us with the size of their signs.

I've seen more and more Kerry bumperstickers lately, and I've seen more Kerry signs popping up in people's lawns. My mother has been volunteering at the local Obama headquarters, and she says that people are coming in and asking for Kerry/Edwards signs but they ran out.

Today "The Southern Illinoisan" newspaper endorsed Bush for reelection. Ugh.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:06 AM
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22. I feel your pain.
I really do. :hug: I counted 9 HUGE B/C 4' x 6' signs in my village alone! It really is a cesspool. It makes me want to move. I'm ashamed to live in the same village as these wacko nutjobs. :(
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:50 AM
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24. I live in a southwest suburb of Chicago and it's pretty depressing
around here as well. There are */C and Keyes signs in quite a few yards and the local Democratic organization i.e., the Worth Township Regular Democratic Organization, has done absolutely nothing.

Myself and a neighbor went to see our local trustee, they call them trustees instead of aldermen in this particular suburb, at the end of March, to volunteer to do anything, canvass, poll watch, become election judges, etc., to make sure Dimson went back to Crawford and he never bothered to contact either one of us. In fact this person remarked at a party about four weeks ago to my neighbor that he felt Bush would be "hard to beat".

The problem is that most of the southwest suburban Chicago Democrats, with a few exceptions, are DINO's.

Kerry/Edwards and Obama will win in Illinois, but I fear most of the southwest suburban townships in Cook County, Worth, Palos and Orland, will go for B/C.
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