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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:22 PM
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Oh No! look at this vote counting ploy

http://onlinejournal.com/evoting/102304Landes/102304landes.html

Could the Associated Press rig the election?

—The Associated Press (AP) will be the sole source of raw vote totals for the major news broadcasters on Election Night. However, AP spokesmen Jack Stokes and John Jones refused to explain to this journalist how the AP will receive that information. They refused to confirm or deny that the AP will receive direct feed from voting machines and central vote tabulating computers across the country. But, circumstantial evidence suggests that is exactly what will happen.

(DIRECT FEED FROM VOTING MACHINES AND CENTRAL VOTE TABULATING COMPUTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY to the Associated Press!)

And what can be downloaded can also be uploaded. Computer experts say that signals can travel both to and from computerized voting machines through wireless technology, modems, and even simple electricity. Computer scientists have long warned that computer voting is an invitation to vote fraud and system failure. An examination of Diebold election software by several computer scientists, including Dr. Avi Rubin and his staff, proved that secret backdoors can be built into computer programs that allow votes to be easily manipulated without detection.

ES&S, the nation's largest voting machine company that will reportedly count 50 percent of all votes, describe on their website how "accessible" their results are: "At ES&S, we know election administrators and the public want fast and accurate election results. That is why we have developed several election management system software solutions to make the reporting process easier, more reliable, and more accessible." Diebold, the second largest voting machine company, advertises a similar service. Both ES&S and Diebold have close ties to the Republican Party.

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(here the article defines WHO the AP is and what they have been up to)

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In 1970, Channel 7 in Miami projected with 100 percent accuracy (a virtual impossibility) the final vote totals on election day. When asked where they got their exit poll data, both Channel 3 & Channel 7 claimed that the League of Women Voters sent it in from the precincts. But, the League's local president tearfully denied it, say, "I don't want to get caught up in this thing." The broadcasters then told the Colliers that a private contractor used the data from a single voting machine to project the winners, but the contractor said he got the data from a University of Miami professor, who in turn denied this. In the end, the news broadcasters appeared to have got the polling numbers out of thin air.
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no wonder smirk is smirking

voting on Nov. 2 is a dream
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:29 PM
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1. this is why we need a landslide
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:31 PM
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2. Well of course, just look at how many interruptions we experience....
...through our cable modems and internet connections every day. Today alone, I've had no fewer than six freeze ups, where I have had to disconnect my cable modem, power it off, wait i minute and power it up again, before I could resume transmitting and downloading data. That's all the touch screen computers tie into correct? So they will be just as vulnerable as typical internet users are to random noise and disturbances. Add to that, intentional access to defraud and you have a formula for an election disaster! There is no way that this election will be clean and fair, no way at all.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:33 PM
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3. Interesting. Can voting machines be seized for investigation?
Or do the companies own them?

A court challenge should be initialized to thoroughly investigate what these machines are actually capable of doing.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:00 PM
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4. and if it's a software, not a hardware problem?.......
in the connection rather than the terminal?
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