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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:51 PM
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Internals from Gallup:
Copied and pasted from a freeper who obviously is a Gallup subscriber. I assume that because I could not find these results on Gallup's site.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256482/posts
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:53 PM
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1. the only region Bush leads is in the south
and also Gallup has Bush leading with young voters--NOT
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:55 PM
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3. young voters with a land line maybe???
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:55 PM
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4. I was going to say that I'd like see where Gallup is placing their calls
Bush with 94% support from Republicans? That seems a little high to me.
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:10 PM
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10. You Can Bet Many Repubs Will Not Vote for Bush
They will either stay at home or "quietly" vote for Kerry on Election Day. "Closet Republicans" ... All are welcome!
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:58 PM
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7. They consider "young voters" to be 49 and younger!
18-49 is too large of a demographic group!
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:55 PM
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2. Great internals!!!

Look at GALLUP internals:

* Kerry up by 5 among independents.
* Chimp approval/disapproval is 46/51 among independents.
* Kerry LEADS by 2 among registered voters in up-for-grabs states.
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:56 PM
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5. Only way Bush can be leading...

They're wildly oversampling repugs from Texas and Utah.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:06 PM
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9. How many Repukes were interviewed as part of the sample
compared to Repukes? (I hate to click on freep links.)
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:15 PM
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13. It doesn't mention that fact

Among registered voters, I did the math and they have 39% repugs, 41% dems and 20% indeps.
They hide their likely voter model in every way possible, but I guess it's something like 40/30/30 repugs/dems/indeps.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:26 PM
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17. That's better than some of their other polls
but there aren't enough independents in this one. If Bush loses indys by 5 percent, he's toast. Gore lost them by 3 percent in 2000. That's an 8-point swing.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:57 PM
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6. geez......
those freepers are full to the brim with comedic genius.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:02 PM
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8. From all voters, or just Evangelicals/Fundamentalists?
I would tend to believe the results if they just applied to the Born-Again Christian voting segment. A lot of them have started to defect from the Li'l Savior from Texas.

This is looking progressively better for John Kerry; but in the event Bush somehow does win, expect him to leave the White House in leg irons before 2008.

--bkl
380 tons of high-velocity explosive goes missing.
Again?
That trick never works!

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:11 PM
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11. Does anybody know what the relative Rep/Dem party turnout was...
...in 2000?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:14 PM
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12. Dems over Repubs by 4%, I believe
Traditionally, Democrats have outvoted Republicans by 2-5% over the past 4 presidential elections.
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:16 PM
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14. Right. May be even by more this time

given the dems advantage in new voter registrarion.
However, Gallup assumes that repug turnout will be 5% higher than dem turnout. Go figure.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:20 PM
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15. I don't believe anything
Gallup puts out
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:24 PM
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16. Who are the 8% retarted liberals who are saying they'll vote for Bush?
:crazy:
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:34 PM
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18. repugs posing as liberals? n/t
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:39 PM
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19. I can live with those internals (but Gallup method is still lame).
Those internal numbers explain Gallup's nonsense conclusions. Gallup has Bush killing Kerry in Texas, Utah, Nebraska, etc. and Kerry winning the Democratic reliably states and also winning the toss-up states. Moreover Bush's low approval ratings in the toss up states indicate that he cannot pull this out of his ass at the last minute.

My only concern is that I cannot see how Kerry will break the 400 electoral vote threshold.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:42 PM
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20. I don't buy this - job approval 51%?
I doubt it!

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

Based on National Adults

Approve Disapprove No opinion
% % %

National Approval Rating

51 46 3


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