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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:07 PM
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Has everyone seen this?
http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/

There's a lot of juicy information and contact info there.

Thoughts?

Cheers,

ADAM
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:16 PM
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1. Damn
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:00 PM
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19. Daughters
Wouldn't it be terrible if somebody emailed this to various news companies?

From: Ryan Krabill
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:34 PM
To: Donald Povia ; Thomas Roberts ; Jon Seaton ; Jennifer Williams
Subject: Spam Alert: RE: i think
Just stay away from Jenna or things could get ugly.

RJK

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Povia
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:26 PM
To: Thomas Roberts; 'Jon Seaton'; Ryan Krabill; Jennifer Williams
Subject: i think
She and I would look good together…



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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #1
203. This one caught my eye
To Mary Matalin? Send it to Carville! It actually says "Can't * say something progressive".


-----Original Message-----
From: jschmidt@schmidtpa.com
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:30 AM
To: mmatalin@georgewbush.org
Subject: FW: Response to Kerry's Stem Cell Attack

something needs to be done about this (below). can't we say something intelligent? can't Bush announce something progressive like dedicating even more federal funds to stem cells and other, more advanced areas such as cord blood? i am so tired of this nuttiness. (and when he says he was first prez to dedicate funds, the dem retort is that this research was not around several years ago, and amount is insignificant)

when healthcare is discussed next debate, things like stem cells and health care insurance and expensive drugs could bury him. i hope this is registering out there.

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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:19 PM
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2. Stupid shitheads!
Don't know the difference between a .com and a .org.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:21 PM
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3. LOOOOOL
Is this for real? OMG
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:17 PM
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184. the .orgs and the .coms are the INTERNETS * was talking about!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Snark!!!

:headbang:
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:59 AM
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241. While I agree they are shitheads...
.. .org is usually reserved for non-profit organizations. .com is for companies. Lots of times when people buy a domain, they buy both. The company I work at has both so even though our company is set up on the .com, typing .org will get you re-routed to .com.

Just look at what happens when you type in http://www.whitehouse.com .

Anyway, I looked at all the emails. Nothing jumped out as particularly damning. I did though, get a warm feeling in my heart when I saw the pics of the young repukes at an ice cream social. How niiiice.
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:22 PM
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4. Now don't anyone use this info for anything...
questionable.

Don't, I repeat, don't jam up their phone lines with calls on election day.

Don't spam their mailboxes.

Don't do anything that might make their lives inconvenient.

-A
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. Are you serious?
or was that sarcasm?
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #11
38. I'm seriously sarcastic?
I would never encourage others to jam up some asshole Repuke operative's phone on election day. I might encourage others to jam said Repuke's phone UP HIS ASS, but that's another story.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:24 PM
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*lmao*
just had to make sure.


not everybody here has a..err mischeivous streak, i guess is the best way to put it.

how'd you find the link anywya? i troll that and whitehouse.org damn near everyday, and totally missed it.
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:27 PM
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47. Datalounge
The strangest things show up in gay gossip forums.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. I'll bet....
someone did real good with this one. once again, classic. i love the chickenhead.org people.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #47
86. I love Datalounge!
It's where I get my best gossip from!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #4
45. because That Would Be Wrong
and we must play fair.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:24 PM
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5. ROFL - they can't even get their own team's ISP correct
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batchdem04 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:33 PM
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6. Lol..

Did you see the mail where one guy was talkin about Bush's daughter? Classic!
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:39 PM
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7. Doesn't this show that Bush campaign is working with 527s
DIRECTLY?????
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:52 PM
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14. Looked like it to me!
And every last bit of it oiis 100% VERIFIABLE!!!!!

LOLOL, bush is going to be PROSECUTED for this one!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:57 PM
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81. My favorite part:
<<>May I request that you or someone on your staff send directions
> >regarding
> >what Counties can and cannot do as it pertains to newsletters and phone
> >banks usage for federal candidates. There is a great deal of ignorance
> >out
> >here and many counties are violating the campaign law as I understood it
> >
> >from you. God help us if the Democrats find out. I think we all need
> >direction. Can you help us?
> >
> >Thanks, Chris
> >
> >Ardean A. Anvik
> >State Committeeman, Mason COunty>>
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #81
173. OMG!!! Dips, I tell ya, just absolute dips!!


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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
27. Where?
I would expect if there is such info here it should be sent to as many places as possible ASAP
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demintheD Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:46 PM
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174. 527s
County orgs are likely not 527s.. but what this violates is the campaign finance law that says non-federal money cannot be used to support a federal candidate.

What I find interesting is the government emails that have been used to communicate on clearly campaign matters. Somebody's gonna have some major ethics problems. Why are staffers from Collins' office cc-ing Bush's campaign... then "advising" them on a media strategy????

Incredible.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:41 PM
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8. Spreadsheets have SSNs
Just email or call these people and tell them that the Bush campaign has openly emailed their SSNs. If my SSN was posted...I'd be pissed.
I personally think it wasn't necessary for the people at georgewbush.org to post that info without at least censoring the SSNs.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
17. Man! These fools have never heard of PGP????
Sensitive information transmitted across the internet MUST be encrypted.

Anybody in IT would have told them that to begin with!
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
72. IT jobs are SOOOO last century....
no one has those anymore. :eyes:
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #8
100. That so needs to be done....
these folks thingk that shrub and his boys are protecting them etc....wouldn't it be funny if these people go a note just on where to find their SS number????

I think you would have 50% of the people defect....and at least one fired Puke!

hahahaha
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:44 PM
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9. Hahahaha. I can't get past this---


We'll never have as much fun, nor as much pain, as this Pinhead administration. I wish it were over already. Please Lord, wake me when it's over...

:)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:45 PM
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10. unbelieveable!
:eyes:
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:46 PM
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12. i love chickenhead!
this is classic.
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:48 PM
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13. Be careful in here
My virus screen shut me out -- there's some bad juju in here
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. what?
weembo, who are you trying to scare? Its just a webpage, lol.
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #20
31. I crawled around inside and got shut down
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. everyone else is crawling around in there and nothing
bad is happening....something wrong with your puter....at least.
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. I am afraid you are correct.
I'm just a bit paranoid
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:54 PM
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15. Internecine fighting! Sweet Schadenfreude! Dullain is pissed at Evelyn!
From: dullain Ehrlich
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 12:28 PM
To: 'Donald Povia' ; Jon Seaton ; 'Peter Abbarno'
Cc: kathryn@jenniferdunn.org; 'Mary Jane Aurdal'
Subject: Volunteer Recruitment
This is what Evelyn has had HER VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR doing this past week. I sincerely do not know how we are going to make numbers if this is what our BUSH/CHENEY 2ND CD CO-CHAIRPERSON is doing. The entire campaign and election will be long gone before, if ,anything is ever accomplished by Evelyn. We have now lost another week. I cannot do it alone. This is an outrage. We have only 12 weeks left and here another week is lost with another Chart. Any suggestions? Dullain


From: Bonney Ottow
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:09 AM
To: dullain Ehrlich
Subject: Volunteer Recruitment
HI Dullain,

I met with Evelyn and Frauna last Tuesday night before going up to Terra. I have gotten together a system for recruitment of volunteers that I will be showing to Evelyn tomorrow. After her comments I plan to proceed with it and will contact each of the volunteer captains. I just wanted to let you know what was going on with what I have been asked to do. I will forward a copy of of the system with names if you would like. I won't have that typed up until after meeting with Evelyn and Frauna tomorrow.

Talk to you later,

Bonney Ottow

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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:57 PM
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16. WTF!
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 03:58 PM by Sean Reynolds
HAHAHAHAHA!
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:09 PM
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OH THERE IS JUSTICE!!!
Hahahah this is way too funny. I love the one with the attached pictures of the young repukes living it up in NYC. Time to go post those all over the internet. BTW the site is being mirrored as we speak just in case someone makes them take it offline.

:)
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:17 PM
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33. Red Eye... or E-VIL... like the fru-its of the Dev-il??
You decide!
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:22 PM
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40. please post the mirror site when finished.....n/t
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:28 PM
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48. Who the hell is sbush
do ya think? i haven't seen a preppier bunch of bastards since the 80s.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #48
80. That guy should put a shirt on.....he's got a gut.
:-D

This coming from someone who once had a gut too....and I was never seen without a shirt.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #80
90. They are budding fascist elite....
no class, no couth.


i bet his maid tells him he's gorgeous every night when she tucks him in.
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pelagius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #48
169. Dayum, them kids look lahk e-lee-tists
>i haven't seen a preppier bunch of bastards since the 80s.
>

These can't be 'puglicans, can they? I mean the 'puglican party is the party of cowboys and the working man, not obnoxious little fops, right?
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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:59 PM
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132. I was just thinking
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:01 PM by Lizz612
"Oh lookit the Republican Preppies! I bet they pop the collars on their bright polo shirts!" and then speak of the devil! the very next photo has two boys, one in a lime green Polo and the other in salmon, with popped collars!!
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GimmeDANEger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:59 PM
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18. catch the Washington Times reporter e-mailing there?
Charles Hurt.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
54. I caught that......
seems like he was trying to play hardball with em.


also the cnn bit, abotu them tryign to make a huge security story out of the AIDS protestors at the youth convention. vera interesting.
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GimmeDANEger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:00 PM
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21. Also...
Should we send this to the Kerry camp or the press? Seems alot of this stuff could be pretty explosive.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. EVERYONE ON DU BOARD.....SEND TO OLBERMANN
and to everyone in the press.....time for a mass mailing or mail generator, or whatever you call that thing???
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #22
57. No! Let's not blow up the spot on this one.....
nothing there is worthy of CON-spiracy status yet. let the dimwits keep sending to .org, maybe eventually soemthign really scandalous will show up.

chickenhead will put it up if they want too. Besides they've already had run-ins with Dick, so they're being watched.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Wonder what this legal case is
they are talking about..Younger

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demintheD Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #24
176. legal case
has to do with getting Nader on the ballot in PA I think....
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almostallhere Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #176
260. has to do with when a federal court can intervene
when there is a concurrent state court proceeding. i don't know what the exact situation was with the ballot (who was challenging in which court) but the case (younger) is about federal court abstention
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #21
51. already done
heh heh heh heh heh
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:08 PM
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23. Save Save Save
I would expect once this gets out, the website will be forced to remove it all. I suggest saving at least the main text of the page.
Would it be bad to post the entire thing here for posterity?
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #23
60. They've tangled with Dick before.....
he tried to sue em for writing about Lynn. Don't draw too much attention to them, and they should be alright....
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:09 PM
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25. This is an anti-Bush site
This appears to be an anti-Bush site doing a take-off of the real Bush site. Take a look at the slogan at the top of that page. Also, look at the description at the top of the page for what this is. It appears that this anti-Bush site has been getting a few email accidentally misdirected to their site instead of to the actual Bush site by mistake. They recently found these emails and decided to post them. Because of the nature of this, and how some of it could be explosive, someone might want to create a local copy just in case this main site is taken down.

Their store has some pretty funny bumper stickers too!
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #25
58. ya think??
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
62. it is......georgewbush.org
is the election parody site, and whitehouse.org is the presidency parody site. there's soem hilarious articles at whitehouse.org.

and they are affiliated with bettybowers.com and landoverbaptist. both are fundamentalist parody sites.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
186. a friend of mine came across this site last year.
It took us a bit of time to figure out it was some sort of a spoof site that got lucky and locked in Georgie's name with the .org. Anyone with a brain for a presidential campaign would have grabbed all .whatevers were out there right away so no could do this. This dude could make some money if it is not viewed as that federal crime of buying someone's name to force them to buy you out and shut your site down. Some sort of cybersquatting law, remember?? Don't know if it matters for public officials like Bush though ...Hope there is a mirror site...
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:10 PM
Response to Original message
26. WHAT A
mother load of information THAT is!!! ROFL!!!!

OMG!! I am having too much fun going through this. I've bookmarked it.

Thanks for posting this...
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Can someone mirror this
in case it disappears?

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:14 PM
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29. FUCK! Wow!
That's fucking amazing! What IDIOTS. That's so beautiful!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:14 PM
Response to Original message
30. Someone forward this to the Kerry
campaign. Some interesting stuff in there.

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. From Steve Cassidy (scassidy@ufanyc.org) Sept. 5:
"Call me and let me know what your thoughts are. I have some good ideas but I really need to know what Rove is thinking. Call me and let me know what you think. Let's not get over confident. Let's go for the jugular right away. I followed the talking heads the last few days and not one Dem or lib media person brought up Firefighters for Kerry or even homeland security. I hope they were happy with Wed nite and the Endorsement. It is having a hugh impact with IAFF. I'm getting a lot of hate mail which is lways a good sign you're getting to them. My members are thrilled but the rest of the national labor movement is furious with me although none of them have had the guts to call me directly. They have been complaining through 2nd parties.
SJC"
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #32
242. Interesting - a union for Bush DUH!
If you go to their actual website, they have a graphic supporting bush, and then another graphic lambasting Bloomberg for giving the firefighters such a small salary.

Perhaps they don't understand that repukes, y'know, HATE UNIONS WITH A PASSION. These are the same repukes that want to cut their overtime pay. What a buncha morans.
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. MIRRORED.. I have a local mirror of the page + attachments
Oh and this is juicy

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Coda
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:10 PM
To: JHogan@georgewbush.org
Subject:

for future reference, no mention of WDH and legal or anything work related on the other address. thanks.



Whats WDH??? Legal? Someone doesnt want to get caught between the W campaign and their work eh??!!?

Time to do a google on Carolyn :)

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Also, this
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 04:20 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
"The call lasted a little longer than it should have been allowed, but I think Bob got through the questions pretty well. Incidentally, I don't know how they got the number, but about 8 or 10 enviro reps were called as the sequence of the callers were recognized. Luckily, none of them were given an opportunity to ask a question."

good thing he didn't have to talk to any damn environmentalists, eh?

Juicy stuff.

And this is who wrote it:

Todd Ungerecht
Senior Policy Advisor
Northwest Region
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
U.S. Department of Commerce
(206) 526-6152

Geez. The Senior Policy Advisor for the Northwest Region of the NOAA is glad he didn't have to talk to a single environmental rep?

Wow.

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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
165. Now THIS is something we can USE! nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #36
233. And why is he involved in the CAMPAIGN???
Using his government computer to contribute to the effort?

Uh OH...that is a bozo NO NO!
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #34
41. I have a full mirror, too...
Just in case. I pray someone from the Kerry camp can use this info, but I personally believe that they play too nice with the enemy.

-A
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #41
168. but we don't play too nice
heh :evilgrin: heh :evilgrin: heh :evilgrin: heh :evilgrin:
"surrogates" is our middle name. ;)
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #34
167. WDH?
all I get is Wyoming Department of Health and Web Design House a NYC outfit.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
35. Check this shit out, it sounds bad:
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Unger
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:31 PM
To: 'Alan Levine'
Cc: 'Jeb Bush' ; bdoster@georgewbush.org
Subject: RE:

Oh yeah. Bill can be a bit nutty. Brettler, are you familiar with what's going on down there? Do you know what Bill is talking about?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Levine
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:36 PM
> To: Karen Unger
> Cc: Jeb Bush ; bdoster@georgewbush.org
> Subject:
> karen,
> today i was in pasco county with the LG. while there, bill bunting pulled me and the LG aside
> and told us that he was going after rep. anderson because anderson would not drop mail for the
> president. I don't know what is going on, but bill is capable of sometimes being fairly extreme,
> and it worries me that he may do something that draws attention. it may be worthy of someone
> talking to him...
>
> alan
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. Here's another name
of a person on this list:

Tim Griffin
Research Director and
Deputy Communications Director
Republican National Committee
310 First Street, S.E.
Washington, D.C. 20003
w:(202) 863-8815
f: (202) 863-8744
tgriffin@rnchq.org


Yikes!

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Question:
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 04:25 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
I see they go out and talk to evangelical churches (I saw the Dallas County report). Is that kosher???

On edit, so I don't add another post, did anyone see this??? Newt Gingrich's campaign plan:

ATTACHMENT: NEWT-WHAT_IS_AT_STAKE_IN_2004_ELECTION.pdf


Look about 3/4 of the way down the email page and you will see it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:39 PM
Original message
Hm, well perhaps
the First Congregational Church and New Hope Evangelical Free should lose their tax exempt status.
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #35
44. Nutty Bill
I wonder how Bill Bunting, the Pasco County Republican Chairman, would feel knowing the Jeb Bush campaign was calling him 'nutty'

More info on Bill Bunting:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/18/Pasco/GOP_bickering_could_c.shtml
http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/MGBV2N8WOZD.html
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #44
46. Another juicy bit
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: ardean anvik
> >Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:47 PM
> >To: chrisvance@wsrp.org
> >Subject: Federal Campaign Law
> >
> >
> >Chris,
> >
> >I took the information you gave me regarding usage of County Party
> >assets
> >(e.g. newsletters, phone banks) for federal candidates to my County
> >Central
> >Committee and asked for direction as to accepting ads from campaigns or
> >individuals. I explained the information you had provided. Steve
> >VanDenover, Mason County Chair, asked me to check with other counties as
> >to
> >how they are handling national candidates, such as Nethercutt, Bush and
> >Congressional Candidates. I called a few counties and discussed this
> >issue
> >in detail with the State Committeewoman and Editor of the Skagit County
> >Republican newsletter, Ann Marie Humphreys. She was unaware of the
> >prohibiitions that you had outlined to me for newsletters. IN fact she
> >had
> >an ad for George Bush in her latest Newsletter. I told her what you had
> >
> >explained to me about newsletter prohibitions.
> >
> >May I request that you or someone on your staff send directions
> >regarding
> >what Counties can and cannot do as it pertains to newsletters and phone
> >banks usage for federal candidates. There is a great deal of ignorance
> >out
> >here and many counties are violating the campaign law as I understood it
> >
> >from you. God help us if the Democrats find out. I think we all need
> >direction. Can you help us?
> >
> >Thanks, Chris
> >
> >Ardean A. Anvik
> >State Committeeman, Mason COunty
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #46
53. God help us if the Democrats find out...
WOW!

"... many counties are violating the campaign law as I understood it
from you. God help us if the Democrats find out."

Ardean A. Anvik, State Committeeman, Mason COunty

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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #46
55. Why are people working for ceq.eop.gov emailing the Bush campaign?!?!?
-----Original Message-----
From: Perino, Dana M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:44 PM
To: gbecker@georgewbush.org
Subject: Fw: How is it going?


I would think this would be an innapropriate use of government resources? I know we cant do ANYTHING at work (i work for the feds) for our own pleasure...

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #55
250. Wasn't there outrage when Al Gore made campaign calls
from his office? I remember it as one of the major contrived scandals of the VRWC.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #55
255. It is, it is!!!
Remember Jessica Cutler? She got fired for updating her blog on all the guys she screwed for fun and profit while serving as an intern to a GOP congressman...and this violates not only workplace rules, but campaign finance laws as well. If anyone chases this, they are toasted.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #46
262. That's my state they're talking about there
Chris Vance is chair of the Washington state Republican party. Hmm, this might need to be forwarded on to paul@wa-democrats.org.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #44
52. Email the author
Bridget Hall Grumet can be reached in west Pasco at 869-6244 or toll-free at 1-800-333-7505, ext. 6244. Her e-mail address is bhall@sptimes.com
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #52
63. Email sent
I just sent an email to BRIDGET HALL GRUMET, Times Staff Writer, St. Petersburg Times.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #35
192. Here's an article about Bunting acting over-the-top
It seems Bunting is the chairman of Pasco's Republican Executive Committee.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/18/Pasco/GOP_bickering_could_c.shtml

Published March 18, 2004

Bill Bunting was the last person Joan Kelley expected to see over breakfast.

Ten miles of highway and six years of political bickering separate the two prominent local Republicans. Over the years, Kelley and Bunting's wife, Ann, have filed grievances with the state party trying to remove each other from power.

So when Bill Bunting walked into the Holiday McDonald's on Feb. 27 as Kelley sat down with her Egg McMuffin and coffee, the former state committeewoman figured: "He must have followed me."

<snip>

Carole Lott, a former local GOP chairwoman who was voted out of her seat in 1998, doesn't buy it.

"I didn't always get along with Joan," Lott said. "We fought like cats and dogs, but I always gave Joan credit. She worked hard.

"Bunting just wants to get rid of everybody who doesn't have the same views as he does," she said.



http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/MGBTEB16D0E.html

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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:17 AM
Response to Reply #35
228. LOL "it may be worthy of someone talking to him..."
Sounds like something out of Sopranos. Hope Bill Bunting takes care and have someone else start his car!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:06 AM
Response to Reply #35
234. Here's REP Anderson--he's on health committees in FL
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/representative_detail.aspx?id=4271&sessionID=36
Ugly sucker!


The LG, I guess, is the Lieutenant Governor.

Bill Bunting appears to be a big cheese Florida GOP coordinator for Pasco County, among other things.
In Pasco County, where Republicans recently completed a phone bank that reached 15,000 independent and swing voters, Republican Chairman Bill Bunting said the personal touch paid off.

"A lot of the younger, non-party-affiliated voters we reached said, "You know, nobody ever asks us our opinion. I really appreciate that,' " Bunting said.
That's from this boring article: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/01/04/Worldandnation/Bush_Cheney_campaign_.shtml

I'm guessing what this means is that Anderson, who is a state rep, declined to use his mailing privileges to send out some pro-Bush crap, and Bunting is pissed off at him. They know that using the mailing privileges is illegal, or skirting the intent of the law, so they don't want to call any attention to this. That tells me that some other legislators are probably doing it too.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #35
266. I'm sure that Bill Bunting will be pleased to know they called him "nutty"
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 06:06 PM by yardwork
sorry - my post is a dupe of previous posts
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #266
267. That would be THIS Bill Bunting! This is too good
Gov. Jeb Bush signs are latest to turn up stolen
By Times staff writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published October 18, 2002

Campaign signs for Gov. Jeb Bush are disappearing and so is Republican activist Bill Bunting's patience.

snip...

An enraged Bunting called the St. Petersburg Times on Thursday, offering a $1,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of any sign stealers.

snip...

Bunting is the Pasco campaign chairman for congressional candidate Ginny Brown-Waite, whose husband was recently nabbed in a sign stealing case that drew national attention. On Oct. 10, Hernando County sheriff's deputies caught him stealing and vandalizing signs for his wife's opponent, U.S. Rep. Karen Thurman.

snip....

Anyone with information can call the Sheriff's Office toll-free at 1-800-854-2862.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
50. holy crap! great find!
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
56. I know very little about computers but:
this seems to good to be true. Isn't it more likely these are all made-up?

Is it even possible to have a "catch-all" mailbox? If it is possible, I will gladly stand corrected.
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #56
65. catch-all mailbox
Yes, this is very possible. I run several linux-based servers here and I have email sent to non-existent accounts go into one bucket all the time.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #65
123. Sorry for being a doubting thomas
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #56
69. nah. I know these
people's work, and it's definitely not made up. to many run of the mill random emails.
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MotownLew Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #56
170. "Any" Mailboxes
Any simple website can set up a "catch-all" mailbox called "any@domainname.com" quite easily.

Anything not addressed to "help" or "info" or "joe" will end up in the "any" mailbox. That's why there can be so many names in the mailto: lines, which basically became junk at the wrong domain.

I say spread the juicy stuff to the media. Especially the guy in "lust" with Jenna Bush. Good career move, buddy :)

7 Days left. Time to pull out the rug.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #56
189. yes it is with some servers, email servers.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #56
232. Absolutely.
Stand and be corrected! :)
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #56
240. Sure is possible....I own one
Most people who own their own domain do. If you send a mail to anything@mydomain it will go into my default inbox. Those emails directed to a particular account @mydomain are forwarded to that accounts respective inbox.

I do however agree with your first sentiment....I would tread lightly with these "emails".

RC
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
59. "Just stay away from Jenna or things could get ugly."
A reply to "i think She and I would look good together…" from Donald Povia, written by Ryan Krabill. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #59
194. I guess that would be this Donald Povia
http://www.youth04.org/about/staff/povia

Don Povia

(On leave of absense from the Advisory Board. Currently working as a Field Representative for Bush-Cheney '04.)

Don Povia attends the Graduate School of Political Management and serves as Graduate Senator for The George Washington University's Columbian College of Arts and Sciences. He is employed full-time as a Legislative Associate handling a myriad of issues including tort reform, labor, insurance, health care and privacy at Stateside Associates in Arlington, VA.

<snip>

Mr. Povia has participated in various organizations and charitable works, including Monmouth County Big Brothers and Big Sisters and with the NJ Juvenile Justice Commission's Job Shadow Day.



Sounds like he could use to learn a lot more about privacy issues. :)
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tengtor Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
61. This is a PARODY site
By the same guys who created "Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian" and WhiteHouse.Org sites.

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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. and you think they went through the trouble of making up those attachments
I dont think so. The email addresses are real, the names are real, the phone numbers are real. Theres way too many emails there to make up.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. it's SATIRE
it says so.

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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #67
166. Nice try. Won't fly.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #61
66. Yes, but they had their email servers CAPTURE everythign sent to
<anything>@georgewbush.org

These were emails sent wrongly to the .org domain rather than the .com domain!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #61
84. See my post 82.
I just did a little "research."
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #61
95. Read the top of the page with the emails
they explain how they got them.

And did you check out the attachments on the emails? Those names, numbers, SSNs, etc are REAL. I saw the Dallas County spreadsheet and those are actual churches here, real phone numbers.

Then there's Newt's entire campaign plan.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #95
191. when i click on the links, i get nothing!!!
what was in Gingrich's strategy??
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
68. "www.georgewbush.org" is a parody site (like Whitehouse.org).
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 04:42 PM by DemoTex
How can we be sure these emails are genuine? They look so to me, but this is a site that appears to be associated with www.whitehouse.org and www.landoverbaptist.org .

www.georgewbush.org

Subject edited for brevity.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. Y'all...those are real emails.
people sent it to there site inadvertently. they are just putting the emails out there.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #71
83. See my post 82
.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
70. Best on of the bunch
Best thing about it is the bottom bit I put in bold. Fortunately, georgewbush.org cannot be held liable for that statement as somebody else emailed it to them, not the original lawyer!:


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Cairncross - Legal
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:15 PM
To: Jill HoltzmanVogel - Legal; tjosefiak@georgewbush.org; cguith@georgewbush.com
Subject: FW: RE: Younger

Looks like they got the all-clear.

I'll keep everyone posted. Can someone forward to Chuck as well (don't have his email on bberry). Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick J. Rogers
Sent: Sat Sep 18 15:09:12 2004
To: Sean Cairncross - Legal
Subject: RE: Younger

Sean--call me, we are on board, and I'll give you the details.

Patrick J. Rogers
Modrall, Sperling, Roehl, Harris & Sisk, P.A.
P.O. Box 2178
Albuquerque, NM 87103-2168
Tel: 505-848-1849
Fax: 505-848-1841


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Cairncross - Legal
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:57 PM
To: Patrick J. Rogers
Cc: jholtzmanvogel@tnchq.org
Subject: FW: Younger

Pat,

Here's research on abstention.

-----Original Message-----
From: Meyers, Ryan P.
Sent: Sat Sep 18 14:53:18 2004
To: Sean Cairncross - Legal
Cc: kwheelbarger@georgewbush.com
Subject: Younger

Sean,

The best case I've found so far is New Orleans Pub. Serv., Inc. v. Council of New Orleans, 491 U.S. 350, 359 (1989). In this case, the Court found that Younger abstention did not apply to a state court's review of city council's decision. The Court reasoned that Younger principles did not weigh as heavily in cases that do not implicate the state courts' ability to perform their judicial functions ("t has never been suggested that Younger requires abstention in deference to a state judicial proceeding reviewing legislative or executive action. Such a broad abstention requirement would make a mockery of the rule that only exceptional circumstances justify a federal court's refusal to decide a case in deference to the States."). Depending on the posture of our case, this could be a slam-dunk argument: for instance, in the event that the state court was reviewing a decision by the Secretary of State to leave Nader off the ballot. I do not know if this is in fact the posture of the case, but from your brief description I suspect that it was not.

Nonetheless, New Orleans does have some favorable language that could be used to argue that abstention is the "exception, not the rule," and that the Younger should therefore not apply in this instance:

here are some classes of cases in which the withholding of authorized equitable relief because of undue interference with state proceedings is "the normal thing to do," Younger v. Harris, 401 U.S., at 45. We have carefully defined, however, the areas in which such "abstention" is permissible, and it remains "'the exception, not the rule.'" Hawaii Housing Authority v. Midkiff, 467 U.S. 229, 236 (1984), quoting Colorado River Water Conservation Dist. v. United States, 424 U.S. 800, 813 (1976). As recently as last Term we described the federal courts' obligation to adjudicate claims within their jurisdiction as "'virtually unflagging.'" Deakins v. Monaghan, 484 U.S. 193, 203 (1988) (citation omitted).

I just spoke with Katie Wheelbarger, and I explained to her that there are two ways to attack Younger. First, we could argue that the constitutional interests outweigh the state interests. I think this is our strongest argument and I am looking for any cases that have so held. I've already looked at Supreme Court and 10th Circuit cases on this point and haven't found anything helpful, but I am going to broaden my search and try again. Second, we could argue that the state court does not provide us an adequate opportunity to raise the constitutional challenge because of the time sensitivity involved. It will be difficult to prevail on this argument if we did not bother to raise these issues in the state court. There are several cases which suggest that the plaintiff's failure to raise a claim in the state court prevents it from later claiming that it has not had an adequate opportunity to challenge the constitutionality of the statute. This seems to me to make sense. Therefore, I will continue to focus on the first argument unless I hear otherwise from you. Even if we do not find a case on point, we can still make the argument on the basis of Younger and Pennzoil themselves that abstention should not be applied because the constitutional interest at stake vastly outweighs any state interest in this case.

If you have any questions or wish me to pursue a new direction, you can reach me at 202-544-6338. If I do not answer at that number please try 202-641-7532.

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tengtor Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #70
74. Wrong email like wrong snail mail
Isn't opening mail not addressed to you but delivered to your house a Fed offense? I just hope these Chickenhead guys don't get into trouble.

They are pretty amusing (in a disturbing sort of way).
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #74
76. email is not delievered by teh U.S. Postal service
If I receive an email, I can open it all I want, share it on the web, or whatever I choose.

If I receive one with a disclaimer attached, I can be held liable if I am the first person it is addressed to. If not, then the person who sent it on to me is the one to be held liable.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 04:29 AM
Response to Reply #76
231. Email is a postcard, not a sealed envelope. User beware. (or use crypto)
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #74
96. I'm sure you DO hope they don't get in trouble.
LOL!
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #96
213. Some people are just so complicated
and hard to figure out, no?

wink wink nod nod.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
73. I wonder if this prospect list was ever called and solicited?
GOP VIP Prospect List

abrahamt@kraftconstruction.com
cja@alliant-partners.com
jtanner@hubbard.com
ralligoo@broadandcassel.com
dick@rabeardco.com
george@bbgi.com
ronturbo@aol.com
blutpzl@aol.com
david.brown@ecof.com
VGBAUTO@aol.com
jtchandler@schenkelshultz.com
lchira@lcadevelopment.com
pchristiansen@akerman.com
jkent@racfl.com
jcox@coxnici.com
ddefosset@walterind.com
drdesai@afgcare.com
cedwards@smootadams.com
evers@onmessage.com
todd.farha@wellcare.com
jeff@amickltd.com
jgills@stlukeseye.com
halme@outback.com
ChrisHanlon@wcicommunities.com
davidhart@wcicommunities.com
alhoffman@wcicommunities.com
jholton1@aol.com
mh@icihomes.com
tramm.hudson@providentbank.com
aekeen@prodigy.net
bbrewer@iscmotorsports.com
steeven@certified-pool-enviroscapes.com
fleonhardt@grayharris.com
scott@lutgertmail.net
jimm@wesven.com
mmarchena@mgfirm.com
bmartinez@carltonfields.com
bmart1115@aol.com
bmccollum@bakerlaw.com
smmsdevitt@tecoenergy.com
ghm32789@aol.com
John.McReynolds@universalorlando.com
vmehta@mehtaeng.com
rmichaels@ceaworldwide.com
berticacm@aol.com
nbsinc@worldnet.att.net
fp@kraftconstruction.com
craigh@findwhat.com
gritchey@jonhall.com
bsembler@sembler.com
gsmith@aipdaytona.com
GregSnell@RiceRoseSnell.com
jstelling@cfl.rr.com
agt@themarinergroup.com
rob@tilt-con.com
palmbaileycs.com
rwatkins@robertwatkins.com
slater@websterforsenate.com
stanwhitcomb@wcicommunities.com
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #73
246. This is a list of lobbyists and executives from Florida, perhaps elsewhere
For example,

halme@outback.com Matthew P. Halme, lobbyist for Outback Steakhouse http://www.flsenate.gov/Lobbyist/Index.cfm?Tab=lobbyist&Submenu=2&Lobbyists=By%20Principal&Letter=O&NextLetter=P

tramm.hudson@providentbank.com Tramm Hudson, Provident Bank, Fl. http://www.phoenixadv.com/thsite/about.htm

To decipher it, try the name and the company name in a Google search. The name may be: lastname; first-initial lastname; firstname lastname, etc.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
75. Who is sbush?
From: Helen Dwight
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:21 PM
To: sbush@georgewbush.com
Cc: sbush@georgewbush.org

Subject: pictures!

ok here are a few pics - i think some of them didn't make it through but it's a start! there are a few from DA and a few from the convention. enjoy!
-hdog
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. MARY MATALIN EMAIL HAHAHA.
Who

-----Original Message-----
From: jschmidt@schmidtpa.com
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:30 AM
To: mmatalin@georgewbush.org
Subject: FW: Response to Kerry's Stem Cell Attack

something needs to be done about this (below). can't we say something intelligent? can't Bush announce something progressive like dedicating even more federal funds to stem cells and other, more advanced areas such as cord blood? i am so tired of this nuttiness. (and when he says he was first prez to dedicate funds, the dem retort is that this research was not around several years ago, and amount is insignificant)

when healthcare is discussed next debate, things like stem cells and health care insurance and expensive drugs could bury him. i hope this is registering out there.

two of keenum babies are home and doing well. mark has sat by their bedside all weekend, every day and night, like a hawk.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. "...can't we say something intelligent?"
Not if their life depended on it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
77. From Newt Gingrich! This is RICH! It's a PDF. No copy/paste.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #77
103. THAT document certainly explains a LOT
as to why and how the bush campaign has been fucking up all this time. Look at all the screwed up assumptions Newt makes!! LOL!

OMG, Newt actually believes the Soros/drug cartels stuff! ROFL!

He says most of the items in F 9/11 have been proven untrue! What color is the sky on Newt's planet?

This thing was written in mid to late July. How come the bush campaign hasn't used 90% of this information? Been too busy trying to defend their crappy record? Discovered most Americans don't give a shit about what Newt spews?

LMAO. This stuff is hilarious. He is more deluded than I previously thought.

He MENTIONS health care and social security as part of a list (like he is going to expand on it) and then never does.

He talks endlessly about social issues, such as the Pledge of Allegiance, gay marriage, prayer in schools and he talks about how Americans want well-qualified teachers. Well, DUH. What an amazing revelation!

He admits repukes suck on the environment (yes you do!)!

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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #103
162. Anyone who hasn't read the Newt PDF _needs_ to...
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 10:18 PM by Sapphocrat
For all intents and purposes, it's Newt's playbook for BC04:

Most offensive to my eyes: Politicization of the Laci Peterson murder, with the suggested meme: "If an expectant mother is violently attacked Republicans will fight to protect her baby. John Kerry and John Edwards will vote to protect the criminal attacker." ...

Lengthy attack on George Soros... connecting the "viciously and consistently anti-American" Michael Moore to Hezbollah... fears of incarcerated felons being able to vote, because "...a new class of criminal voters ... could easily swing close elections" ... page after page of ripping Kerry on defense... endless yammering on about God, God, God, God, GOD (prayer in schools, "under God" in the Pledge, faith-based funding)... education reform... how the "leftist elites" have taken over the universities... anti-flag burning... trickle-down Reaganomics... taxes... tort reform... privatizing Social Security...

Surprisingly, not a word about us horrible homos or same-sex marriage.

Positively delusional; to wit:

"Only the continued overwhelming bias of the news media (amounting to a culture of the left which simply cannot imagine any other value set being legitimate) and the deliberate deception and denial of the Democratic ticket combined with a Republican failure to focus the campaign on the big choices has allowed the myth of a narrowly divided country to survive."

Strongly suggest everyone download the Web page itself -- especially the attached files, as they could easily disappear into a memory hole.

Has anyone sent the link to KE04 yet?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #162
164. Yep. Called & emailed. n/t
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:33 AM
Response to Reply #164
239. Newt actually published this PDF on his own web page
see http://www.newt.org/ - http://newt.org/clientuploads/NG_WHATISATSTAKE.pdf

It's really just his attempt at getting his name aorund the Republicans. Did they let him speak in any way at their convention?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #77
190. Wow - the B/C ticket has really followed this playbook - interesting
That sleaze Newt while keeping his hated ass off TV was still trying to push his horrible manipulative agenda on the good people of the US. Your secret is out Newt - watch your back, brother.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #77
236. I love the section about creating jobs
"Americans know that it is very important to continue developing better jobs and to insource better jobs for America. Keeping American jobs is very or fairly important to 85% of all Americans. Only 14% say keeping American jobs is not too important.

Burdened by their personal injury lawyer allies, their labor union work rules focused allies, their high tax ideology, their support for bureaucrats over entrepreneurs, the left focuses on hiding from the competition in the world market through economic isolationism and stopping outsourcing rather than on economic growth and maximizing insourcing and the creation of new jobs."


Yes, that must be why 22 million jobs and 6 million small businesses were created during the Bush administration.....oh wait, actually that happened under the CLINTON administration!

I cannot believe how truly INSANE that document is. They really are a bunch of crazed fanatics.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
78. Jeb Bush's private email address?
jeb@jeb.org

hmmmmm......
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:57 PM
Response to Original message
82. THE EMAILS ARE REAL. I just verified four phone numbers from emails.
They match who they say they are. Sorry 'bout those wrong numbers Repubs. You gave me way too much info when I asked if I had reached Judge Bailey's chambers. Bwaa haa haa!
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #82
89. Fighting among volunteers ---- priceless!
Notice how they get on each others nerves? Ahhh.. whoever found this, its so relaxing reading all these morsels.

-----Original Message-----
From: dullain Ehrlich
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 12:28 PM
To: 'Donald Povia' ; Jon Seaton ; 'Peter Abbarno'
Cc: kathryn@jenniferdunn.org; 'Mary Jane Aurdal'
Subject: Volunteer Recruitment
This is what Evelyn has had HER VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR doing this past week. I sincerely do not know how we are going to make numbers if this is what our BUSH/CHENEY 2ND CD CO-CHAIRPERSON is doing. The entire campaign and election will be long gone before, if ,anything is ever accomplished by Evelyn. We have now lost another week. I cannot do it alone. This is an outrage. We have only 12 weeks left and here another week is lost with another Chart. Any suggestions? Dullain


From: Bonney Ottow
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:09 AM
To: dullain Ehrlich
Subject: Volunteer Recruitment
HI Dullain,

I met with Evelyn and Frauna last Tuesday night before going up to Terra. I have gotten together a system for recruitment of volunteers that I will be showing to Evelyn tomorrow. After her comments I plan to proceed with it and will contact each of the volunteer captains. I just wanted to let you know what was going on with what I have been asked to do. I will forward a copy of of the system with names if you would like. I won't have that typed up until after meeting with Evelyn and Frauna tomorrow.

Talk to you later,

Bonney Ottow
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #82
92. ROTFLMAO!
This is BEAUTIFUL, simply beautiful.
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
85. Bush Campaign Violates Voters' Privacy
subhead: Social Security Numbers On Web

Wouldn't this be a nice headline somewhere?

-A
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:04 PM
Response to Original message
88. Interesting email floating around Sen. Collins' office RE: Sinclair
> I'd suggest an op-ed piece written by a" friend" that exposes the
> injustice of these attacks on a local family owned business.
> The friend could focus on the notion that Kerry supporters are
> apparently willing to damage local businesses and families in their
> effort to stifle free speech.
> Pineworks isn't sponsoring the anti-Kerry piece right? They are simply
> buying ad time on the local channel.
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #88
93. [mailto:jseaton@georgewbush.org]
I have noticed his name or email in a lot of the reply tos. I think somehow he tricked some real bush workers into adding his .org email addy to their address books. Some of the other emails are addressed to both .com and .org addresses, like the sender didnt know which one to use, so they did both. haha MORONS. i mean, MORANS.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:25 AM
Response to Reply #88
237. Sue Collins, Republican from Maine
I love the way they are DEVIOUS even when doing constituent service work!!! Op ed piece written by a "friend" indeed! Betcha Collins didn't sign off on it--sounds like a stupid idea.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #237
268. It sounds exactly like what the Rethugs have been doing for years
Writing fake letters to the editor, fake op-ed pieces in Rethug-friendly papers, fake reports.....
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
91. I am an idiot. What is this site?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #91
98. GeorgeWBush.org is a parody site
And they've been getting email that should have been addressed to the .com domain.

Their explanation:
Recently, we at GeorgeWBush.org happened to notice that our mail server had a default "catch-all" mailbox, which for the past several months had been quietly gathering any and all e-mails addressed to @georgewbush.org. We felt the need to share.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #98
99. Pennsylvania even has an Evangelical Outreach Director
Robert William
RNC Field Staff - Pennsylvania Evangelical Outreach
202-306-5557

Complete with attached sheet of churches he's visited, every one of which should lose their fecking tax exempt status.

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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #98
102. I get it. LOL
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treading_water Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
94. Unbelievably stupid.
Simply jaw dropping. :wow:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
97. Wow! ALL contact info for BC Campaign in Florida
Right down to the members of the Yard Sign Committee in Westchester.

http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice/attachments/BC'04TO.doc
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Hog lover Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #97
202. They need their marching orders for the next week (eom)
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
101. Too fun, Adamocrat!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! :evilgrin: :yourock:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
104. Well, Wonkette's got it up.
Cat's out of the proverbial bag now.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #104
110. Oh cool....I sent it to her as soon as Adamocrat posted
Hope she saved it to look into further.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #104
127. I emailed wonkette when this broke
I'm sure others did too but it seemed like something she'd jump on
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #127
263. Show of hands, lads--who wouldn't want to be something
Wonkette would jump on?

(slapping wrist as I type.)
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
105. THEY CAUGHT ON. I GOT THIS.
You are not authorized to view this page
You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or phone number that may be listed on the www.georgewbush.org home page.

You can click Search to look for information on the Internet.




HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
Internet Explorer
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. Has Someone Saved the Stuff? we need to send it DNC's Way
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 05:38 PM by umtalal
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. Well, that was quick.
But entirely satisfying, since most of that stuff's been saved.

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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. I have it saved, if someone has webspace I will post it.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #108
109. send it to the DNC. How about doing it here? I worry about the SS # though
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #109
111. MIRROR with no attachments (i dont want to get sued)
But at least the funny emails are still there. I doubt comcast will like the bandwidth of people downloading all those attachments either. anyways.. have fun.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/anarke/bush/index.html

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:47 AM
Response to Reply #105
229. Confused. How could georgewbush.org be forbidden if it is a parody
site, not the real site. Were there links there which now have forbidden warnings? I mean, the attachments are still acessible, right? (I am not too internet savvy)
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:49 PM
Response to Original message
112. Uh oh..."Directory listing denied"
Lol...Adamocrat, the best find of the year!!!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
113. I wonder what's happening
in Freeperville about now?


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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:52 PM
Response to Original message
114. looks like the site has been found it someone shut it down
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:57 PM
Response to Original message
115. Kick so that all can enjoy!
nt
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
116. We have to make sure this gets to the right people
Shouldn't the subject header be changed so that everyone knows what this stuff is? Who is making sure it gets into the right hands? There is no doubt some of it is illegal.
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #116
117. Mods: Feel free to retitle post.
I really do hope that the Kerry/Edwards crew can use some of the info. I was certainly interesting reading.

-A
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. well lurking freepers won't be alerted to fast though
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #117
124. Well Adamocrat, your find and the shut down of the page
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 06:34 PM by merh
proves that the repukes monitor DU! Wonder who is being cussed out and how much panic this has caused.

Thanks for sharing! :yourock:
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #124
245. It's not shut down. they prolly had bandwidth issues
yesterday. It's back up and updated. however i don't htink they are hosting the attachments today.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. K campaign was called & emailed.
Also a few choice journalists. :D
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #119
206. And speaking of journalists
This looks like a set up between them and Jean Meserve at CNN:

-----Original Message-----
From: Pfeifle, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:45 PM
To: Mark Wallace ; Nicolle Devenish ; Alcivar, Leonardo
Cc: Harris, William ; Norcross, David ; Steve Schmidt ; tholt@georgewbush.org; Davis, Alicia
Subject: CNN/Youth Program

Jean M at CNN is filing on the aids protesters at the youth convention today.

She's trying to get someone on camera to respond and turn it into a larger security story.

I said no; I'd talk to her on the phone.

CNN will be looking to get someone on tape; please refer them to me.

Thanks. Mark.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #206
248. Mark Pfeifle and CNN
http://www.campaigndesk.org/archives/000582.asp

Columbia Journalism Review
May 27, 2004

Earlier this week, we wrote about the regrettable practice that producers of CNN's "American Morning" have of regularly inviting partisan public relations professionals onto their show to engage in little more than bluster and spin. Today the situation might have reached a new low. It happened around 8:30 this morning, when Mark Pfeifle, communications director for the Republican convention, appeared as part of a panel discussing Al Gore's recent speech critical of President Bush. Here's what Pfeifle said:
During Al Gore's time as Vice President, we had war declared over the U.S. five different times. We had American citizens killed four different times. And for Al Gore now to make these comments that are so over the top, so irresponsible, in front of MoveOn.org, an organization that has run ads that compare the president to Hitler, shows how out of touch and how angry the Democrats are these days.

We're not surprised Pfeifle is pushing the "angry Democrat" angle -- it seems to be at the top of the list of Republican talking points of late. (Though we suspect that happy Democrats would displease Republicans even more.) But Pfeifle's assertion that MoveOn.org "has run ads that compare the president to Hitler" is stunningly false.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:12 PM
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120. I know where to find some of the attachments....eom
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:15 PM
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121. damn! I can't see it
:shrug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:22 PM
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122. See MIRROR site in post #111. n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:06 PM
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125. .
:kick:
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:10 PM
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126. Orginal poster feel free to edit to include the mirror site in post #111
It doesnt have the attachments but the main page is there in all its glory...
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:38 PM
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128. The orginal site is back up odd maybe they were just flooded with visitors
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:40 PM
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129. well not that * has many Bay area votes
but the crack remark probably won't help

From: Thomas Roberts
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:31 PM
To: Jennifer Williams ; Donald Povia ; Ryan Krabill ; Jon Seaton
Subject: RE: roll call - bizzaro seaton

Jon can probably enlighten us. They do a lot of crack in the Bay area.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:44 PM
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130. This should be the biggest news story in the country - where is Drudge?
Can you imagine if these emails were sent by Democrats?

The entire media would try to destroy us and Drudge would never stop linking to emails that he thought made our side look bad.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:56 PM
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131. LOL
:kick:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:03 PM
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133. Forget that. Watch the Pleasure boats for truth ads.
They are hilarious! There's alink on that site.



http://www.pleasurecaptains.com/caine.html
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:03 AM
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249. Heh heh..................
click on George W.Bush in Viet Nam...........
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:04 PM
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134. KICK!
i enjoyed where they wanted to get Tommy Franks to violate the Hatch Act.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:21 PM
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135. I think they're adding new ones.
I could be wrong on this... but I'm pretty sure the two emails at the top of the page weren't there an hour ago. The folks over at chickenhead productions may be going through their files and picking out new ones while we're watching. Anyone want to check and see if I'm right?

http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice

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Rev_Karl Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:25 PM
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136. You're right!!
Those top two weren't there before. The attachments don't work right now but hopefully soon.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:27 PM
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138. They are definitely adding
Latest email is from today. God I hope something comes out of this. All the scandals and fuck ups have to be given priorities... just imagine what's going to come out about the former Bush administration next year!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:28 PM
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139. Skinner, correct
top two are new.

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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #135
144. Those Are Arab American. I know because I am.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randa FahmyHudome
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:00 PM
To: Phareswire@aol.com; hfwhite@yahoo.com
Cc: jkarim@georgewbush.org
Subject: Re: (no subject)

WALID - ATTACHED IS THE PRESS RELEASE. PLEASE FILL IN YOUR CONTACT NUMBER LETTER HEAD ETC. ALSO I NEED CITY AND STATES TO SHOW GEOGRAPHICAL DIVERSITY. LEAVE THE LAST PAGE AS TALKERS FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE CALLED BY THE PRESS
PLEASE LET ME KNOW OF APPROVAL ASAP SO I CAN HELP YOU DISTRIBUTE TO THE PRESS.
--
Randa Fahmy Hudome, President
Fahmy Hudome International, LLC
815 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. #200
Washington, D.C. 20006
202-429-5566
202-429-5577 fax
ATTACHMENTS: MIDDLE EAST PRESS.doc
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:46 PM
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145. Randa Fuhamy wrote this in her website:
I attended the Jeddah Economic Forum (JEF) as part of a Council on Foreign Relations delegation led by Dr. Ray Irani, CEO of Occidental Petroleum. Our delega-tion consisted of leading American businessmen, business-women, scholars, professors and lawyers.

The JEF itself was an extremely well executed event. I have been to many of these international forums – Davos included – but never have I seen such a well-run produc-tion. All of the presentations started and ended punctu-ally, seating was plentiful, the acoustics were good, and the question and answer sessions were lively discussions and debates of different viewpoints. It was quite easy to mingle with the dignitaries, and all of the attendees were high level, successful businessmen and women.

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:46 PM
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146. You're right.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:26 PM
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137. unbelieveable
i'm speechless.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #137
155. This is good stuff - feel like I'm reading my crazy lady's diary!
Did anyone read the attachment from good ol' Newt? It is 21 pages in a pdf format listing the differences between Democrats and Republicans and what they need to do. I didn't read it all but I did save it for later enjoyment of fictional reading.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:29 PM
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140. Someone call into Mike Malloy on air american and tell them about this
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 PM
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141. Just Emailed
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:39 PM
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142. Yowsa, the fun continues! Most recent email ...
From randa@fahmyhudome.com ... this is a consulting firm that recently got a 1.2 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT FROM LIBYA!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #142
143. Google all this info
I looked some stuff up earlier without any luck. I'm sure we can show the "reporters" how to do some investigative work. We should consolidate all damning info and pass it on in a big way.

Biggest tip for google is to put phrases in quotes.
"bush sucks" is a lot more precise than bush sucks
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #142
148. I wonder whom did Randa f*** to get her contract. This is what happens.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:48 PM by umtalal
I will bit top dollars her company is a cover up for Bandar ( The Saudi Ambassador in residence)

I did send her an email asking her if she had no shame supporting Bush???????
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demintheD Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:41 PM
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171. Fahmy
Randa Fahmy used to work for Spencer Abraham (former MI Senator... now Sec. of Energy)... hmmm... wonder how she got that contract?

She has tried hard to get Arab-Americans in the Detroit area to support Bush (HA!)

I wish I could open that attachment.. I'd love to send it to my AA friends in the Detroit area.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:53 PM
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178. Welcome to DU....demintheD
:pals:
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #171
207. More on Ronda
Randa Fahmy Hudome
President, Fahmy Hudome International

http://www.energycooperation.org/hudome.htm

Randa Fahmy Hudome's experience in the international affairs arena spans a decade and includes service in the both the executive and legislative branches, as well as in the private sector. She is the President of Fahmy Hudome International (FHI), a strategic consulting firm with a focus on international energy issues. FHI provides critical advice and counsel to both businesses and governments with an interest in United States energy policy.

Prior to assuming the presidency of FHI, Randa served as the Associate Deputy Secretary of Energy in the Administration of President George W. Bush. Her duties involved advising Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham on all aspects of international energy policy. Randa analyzed, monitored and assessed energy policy as it related to the impact on foreign policy, national security, and trade promotion and investment. She coordinated international policy objectives with the White House, and the Departments of State and Commerce.

Prior to her executive branch experience, Randa was Foreign Policy Counselor during Senator Abraham's tenure in the United States Senate. During the six years she spent in the legislative branch, she was credited with shaping many pieces of legislation which affected U.S. interests abroad.

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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:48 PM
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147. I REALLY hope someone has archived this site .....
very interesting stuff

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Coda
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:10 PM
To: JHogan@georgewbush.org
Subject:

for future reference, no mention of WDH and legal or anything work related on the other address. thanks.

Do you Yahoo!?
New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:50 PM
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149. Here is some information on one of the people bdoster
Brett Doster

A really smug jerk...

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/10/01/State/2001_protest_spoiler_.shtml

AMPA - Brett Doster was not about to let protesters disrupt a presidential visit.

So when three sign-toting demonstrators showed up at the New York Yankees' Legends Field two years ago, Doster asked police to remove them, team officials said.

Police complied. The charges were later dropped, and the protesters are suing the city for violating their First Amendment rights.

Doster, who was part of a "rally response team" at President Bush's rally, is about to get a much bigger job.

The 32-year-old lobbyist and real estate agent will be appointed director of the president's re-election campaign in Florida. White House political director Ken Mehlman will announce the appointment today at the Tampa Airport Marriott.

"Brett is like family to me," Gov. Jeb Bush said in an e-mail Tuesday. "He will do a fine job coordinating the president's victorious re-election campaign. He is hardworking, experienced, talented and loyal."
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:50 PM
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150. another good one re:
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Unger
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:31 PM
To: 'Alan Levine'
Cc: 'Jeb Bush' ; bdoster@georgewbush.org
Subject: RE:

Oh yeah. Bill can be a bit nutty. Brettler, are you familiar with what's going on down there? Do you know what Bill is talking about?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Levine
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:36 PM
> To: Karen Unger
> Cc: Jeb Bush ; bdoster@georgewbush.org
> Subject:
> karen,
> today i was in pasco county with the LG. while there, bill bunting pulled me and the LG aside
> and told us that he was going after rep. anderson because anderson would not drop mail for the
> president. I don't know what is going on, but bill is capable of sometimes being fairly extreme,
> and it worries me that he may do something that draws attention. it may be worthy of someone
> talking to him...

>
> alan
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:54 PM
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151. "I really need to know what Rove is thinking" -"Let's go for the jugular"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Cassidy,Steve"
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 18:30:47
To:
Cc:"Slevin,James" , "Spollen,Jim" ,
Subject: What next?

Call me and let me know what your thoughts are. I have some good ideas but I really need to know what Rove is thinking. Call me and let me know what you think. Let's not get over confident. Let's go for the jugular right away. I followed the talking heads the last few days and not one Dem or lib media person brought up Firefighters for Kerry or even homeland security. I hope they were happy with Wed nite and the Endorsement. It is having a hugh impact with IAFF. I'm getting a lot of hate mail which is lways a good sign you're getting to them. My members are thrilled but the rest of the national labor movement is furious with me although none of them have had the guts to call me directly. They have been complaining through 2nd parties.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #151
172. I dunno what he's thinkin' right now, Stevie, but when he reads this,
he's gonna be thinking about how many ways to fuck you over.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #172
175. HA !!! yep!!!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:54 PM
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152. What about the use of government emails for campaign purposes?
Isn't that a bit illegal?

L-
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #152
252. Al Gore made phone calls and it was treated as major abuse
of government equipment.
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:58 PM
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153. CNN trying to turn convention protesters into "security story"
-----Original Message-----
From: Pfeifle, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:45 PM
To: Mark Wallace ; Nicolle Devenish ; Alcivar, Leonardo
Cc: Harris, William ; Norcross, David ; Steve Schmidt ; tholt@georgewbush.org; Davis, Alicia
Subject: CNN/Youth Program

Jean M at CNN is filing on the aids protesters at the youth convention today.

She's trying to get someone on camera to respond and turn it into a larger security story.

I said no; I'd talk to her on the phone.

CNN will be looking to get someone on tape; please refer them to me.

Thanks. Mark.
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:00 PM
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154. Repukes sure do have a hard time keeping .org and .com straight! :D n/t
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #154
158. Ofcourse not, they own the government and it is their "private" enterprise
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DallasTim Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #154
159. .COM ? .ORG ?
There are just TOO MANY Internets!!!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #154
196. it's those damn internetS!!!
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:04 PM
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156. Priceless!!! KICK
bwahahahahahahahahaha!

:kick:
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:04 PM
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157. And here goes journalistic integrity
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 10:06 PM by Lithos
As if the Moonie Times ever had any...

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Hurt
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 12:09 PM
To: 'sstanzel@georgewbush.org'; 'sschmidt@georgewbush.org'
Subject:

yesterday I called over to the campaign asking for your platform statement on tort reform. I've not heard back. Does this mean you don't have a specific platform? If not, that will make a good point in my story and one that pro-tort reform republicans will have fun commenting on. If you do have it, send it along or call me.

Charles Hurt
National Reporter
The Washington Times
202-439-5665


And we know about CNN

-----Original Message-----
From: Pfeifle, Mark <mailto:MPfeifle@2004nycgop.org >
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:45 PM
To: Mark Wallace <mailto:mwallace@georgewbush.com >; Nicolle Devenish <mailto:ndevenish@georgewbush.com >; Alcivar, Leonardo <mailto:lalciver@2004nycgop.org >
Cc: Harris, William <mailto:wharris@2004nycgop.org >; Norcross, David <mailto:dnorcross@2004nycgop.org >; Steve Schmidt <mailto:sschmidt@georgewbush.com >; tholt@georgewbush.org ; Davis, Alicia <mailto:adavis@2004nycgop.org >
Subject: CNN/Youth Program

Jean M at CNN is filing on the aids protesters at the youth convention today.

She's trying to get someone on camera to respond and turn it into a larger security story.

I said no; I'd talk to her on the phone.

CNN will be looking to get someone on tape; please refer them to me.

Thanks. Mark.

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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:10 PM
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160. "God help us if the Democrats find out"
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ardean anvik
> >Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:47 PM
> >To: chrisvance@wsrp.org
> >Subject: Federal Campaign Law
> >
> >
> >Chris,
> >
> >I took the information you gave me regarding usage of County Party
> >assets
> >(e.g. newsletters, phone banks) for federal candidates to my County
> >Central
> >Committee and asked for direction as to accepting ads from campaigns or
> >individuals. I explained the information you had provided. Steve
> >VanDenover, Mason County Chair, asked me to check with other counties as
> >to
> >how they are handling national candidates, such as Nethercutt, Bush and
> >Congressional Candidates. I called a few counties and discussed this
> >issue
> >in detail with the State Committeewoman and Editor of the Skagit County
> >Republican newsletter, Ann Marie Humphreys. She was unaware of the
> >prohibiitions that you had outlined to me for newsletters. IN fact she
> >had
> >an ad for George Bush in her latest Newsletter. I told her what you had
> >
> >explained to me about newsletter prohibitions.
> >
> >May I request that you or someone on your staff send directions
> >regarding
> >what Counties can and cannot do as it pertains to newsletters and phone
> >banks usage for federal candidates. There is a great deal of ignorance
> >out
> >here and many counties are violating the campaign law as I understood it
> >
> >from you. God help us if the Democrats find out. I think we all need
> >direction. Can you help us?

> >
> >Thanks, Chris
> >
> >Ardean A. Anvik
> >State Committeeman, Mason COunty
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #160
183. Have the proper authorities been alerted about this?
If not, who should we contact. Does anyone know?
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #183
212. if "proper authorities" means
press and relevant interested parties -- answer is yes
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:13 PM
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161. This is f-ing explosive if real.....
...and I think it is...cos making me google for 4 hours later this evening doesnt make much sense for Freepers let alone GeorgeWBush.org


...lets start with email number 1.

Its from Randa Fahmy Hudome.....who until last year "worked as a top Bush Admin ENERGY official"...anyone want to take a bet he met secretly with "Cheney and cronies" and just signed a 1.4MIL deal with libyan government!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6314340/site/newsweek/

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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #161
163. And here she is....
www.energycooperation.org/hudome.htm

Prior to assuming the presidency of FHI, Randa served as the Associate Deputy Secretary of Energy in the Administration of President George W. Bush. Her duties involved advising Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham on all aspects of international energy policy. Randa analyzed, monitored and assessed energy policy as it related to the impact on foreign policy, national security, and trade promotion and investment. She coordinated international policy objectives with the White House, and the Departments of State and Commerce.

Prior to her executive branch experience, Randa was Foreign Policy Counselor during Senator Abraham's tenure in the United States Senate. During the six years she spent in the legislative branch, she was credited with shaping many pieces of legislation which affected U.S. interests abroad.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #163
180. Wow, she is sure is a Fahmy... meaning: know it all NOT.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 11:08 PM by umtalal
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demintheD Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #161
179. Fahmy
She used to work as an aide for (Former) Senator Spencer Abraham (MI)--now Secretary of Energy... I don't know what her title was while working in the Energy Dept.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #161
182. And the guy/firm mentioned in email 10 is a member of
the IOWA Small Business Development Centers Advisory Board
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #161
185. And this gal has already been investigated in prior elections by
FEC....

ANA CARBONELL

http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/2001cov/Diaz-Balart's_campaign_committee_may_face_more_queries

Isnt this coordination with the BUSH Campaign

From: Amcarbonell@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:43 AM
To: bdoster@georgewbush.org; mfletcher@georgewbush.org; mazel@georgewbush.com; jbrodie@rpof.org; amartinez@rpof.org
Cc: mvschlapp@hotmail.com
Subject: Earned Media
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #161
187. Matt Schlapp is BUSH Admin Political Director !!!
http://www.kevintriplett.com/Matt%20Schlapp%20Visit%20-%20Bristol%20030304.pdf

...and is copied on email re coordinating from Florida ??....who is Ana working for from yahoo.com address ??
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
177. When was the last time you read something online
and actually bounced up and down in your seat while doing so?

Well, :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I feel like I'm peeking in through the White House windows! lmao!
This is priceless. :evilgrin:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #177
257. Yeah, the BATHROOM WINDOW!!!
And, voila (to use some French) there sits the king upon the throne!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:06 PM
Response to Original message
181. jschmidt@schmidtpa.com sez... "can't we say something intelligent?"
I may have to send him an answer to his question.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #181
188. kick
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #181
197. yes please write him and say
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 12:14 AM by dallan
your comment is the SMARTEST thing you all could have said!

they HAVE no intelligent comments. they seem like they're in a cult, did you SEE the pics of those young repubs? that boy and girl couple on the right side of the picture of the two couples looked like little devils. sad.

I called the pennsylvania church guy but it doesn't give any info on his voice mail if it's him or not... someone call later today and ask him if he's him and hang up.

I hope this stuff gets out in the press! some of it could be very damaging, as stuff that I'm not too educated on, but I'm thinking that info about the Muslim-American woman is possibly very very interesting as is the comments from the guy saying they're breaking campaign laws! didn't see the SS#'s, must be in a file, and I didn't even read Newt's bullcrap comments...

Oh gosh, I hope this is real......... Kerry is going to win already, I think, but this could make it a ROUT.

God bless...
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
193. Wouldn't it be funny if ...
a bunch of folks from DU created usernames identical to those we see in these e-mails at relatively anonymous domains (hotmail, yahoo) and started sending information/disinformation/dissent to other persons whose e-mail addresses we find?

For example: Instead of randa@fahmyhudome.com, somebody could create a hotmail account like randa@hotmail.com and send a message to someone on her list like jkarim@georgewbush.org. The content of the message could read something like this:

Lybia wants to back out on our deal. They're afraid of censure from the new Kerry administration. You jerks promised me this would all be kept secret! I'm in big f*ing trouble now! Please advise immediately, or I'm going to get an attorney and take my story to the media.

Randa


Oh, how much fun we could have ... and so many names and addresses to play with.

:smoke:

-Laelth
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #193
195. Whoops, wrong internetS
That would have to be jkarim@georgewbush.com. Doesn't help to send more stuff to the deadletterbox, does it?

:hangover:

-Laelth
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #195
198. Violations of the Hatch Act????

Here is my question. Why is

Todd Ungerecht
Senior Policy Advisor
Northwest Region
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
U.S. Department of Commerce
(206) 526-6152

reporting to operatives in the Bush campaign about a conference he had with the media? Why is he giving operatives of the Bush campaign a list of the media and what questions they asked? Is this electioneering? A possible violation of the Hatch Act?

Interesting FOIA filing, no?


http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice /


-----Original Message-----
From: Perino, Dana M. <ana_M._Perino@ceq.eop.gov" target="_blank">mailto ana_M._Perino@ceq.eop.gov >
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:44 PM
To: gbecker@georgewbush.org
Subject: Fw: How is it going?
-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson, David R. <David_R._Anderson@ceq.eop.gov >
To: Connaughton, James <James_Connaughton@ceq.eop.gov >; Perino, Dana M. <Dana_M._Perino@ceq.eop.gov >; Greene, William <William_Greene@who.eop.gov >; Becker, Glynda A. <Glynda_A._Becker@who.eop.gov >
Sent: Tue Aug 31 21:41:52 2004
Subject: Fw: How is it going?

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Ungerecht <Todd.Ungerecht@noaa.gov >
To: Anderson, David R. <David_R._Anderson@ceq.eop.gov >
CC: Bob.Lohn@noaa.gov <Bob.Lohn@noaa.gov >
Sent: Tue Aug 31 18:35:40 2004
Subject: Re: How is it going?

The call lasted a little longer than it should have been allowed, but I think Bob got through the questions pretty well. Incidentally, I don't know how they got the number, but about 8 or 10 enviro reps were called as the sequence of the callers were recognized. Luckily, none of them were given an opportunity to ask a question.

There were 16 media reps with questions during the call:
1. Eric Barker, Lewiston Tribune
2. Rocky Barker, Idaho Statesman
3. Eva Brandt, Associated Press
4. Kathleen O'Neil, Post-Register News
5. Hal Briton, Seattle Times
6. Will Phinney, Confederated Tribes Bulletin
7. Jeff Barnard, AP
8. Barry Eppeson, Columbia Basin Bulletin
9. Bill Rudolph, NW Fishletter
10. Natalie Henry, Greenwire
11. Eric Robinson, the Columbian (Vancouver, WA)
12. Blaine Harden, Washington Post (NW office)
13. Michelle Cole, The Oregonian
14. Gary G?, Highland Times
15. Mark Engler, Capitol Press
16. Amy Cole, Movable Currents (I suspect an arm of American Rivers)

Bob gave a 10 minute overview following the points, followed by Q&A. The qs focused on a variety of issues--how the opinion achieved no jeopardy for Snake River fall chinook and sockeye, how RSWs work and the project timeframe for their installation, etc., and then evolved into questions about the jeopardy standard, how different from 2000, whether it would lessen the standard for recovery, how the environmental baseline from 2000 changed, how harvest impacted, what about the 199 RPAs in 2000 bi-op.

Blaine Harden (the NW rep for the Washington Post) asked if dam removal would be out of the opinion and if the ocean conditions went south would dam removal be brought back in, etc.,

The AP reporters focused on the standard--whether it would be for sustainability or for recovery.

Natalie Henry from Greenwire asked if the new proposed actions would respond to Judge Redden's concerns.

Bob did well in responding to all questions and encouraged them to review the details of the opinion when its released.

Todd Ungerecht
Senior Policy Advisor
Northwest Region
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
U.S. Department of Commerce
(206) 526-6152

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anderson, David R."
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:37 pm
Subject: How is it going?


> Jim and I are eager hear.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #198
205. That's what I was wondering too
obviously a corporate senior policy advisor installed by the Bush people.
Stonewalling the environmentalists. This is going to some friends at NOAA for sure.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #198
219. Googling Todd Ungerecht
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 01:56 AM by starroute
It's an unusual name, and these stories all relate to Washington or Idaho, so I think it's probably all the same person. This suggests he's a lawyer, not a scientist, and a political appointee with an anti-environmental background.

From the Tri-City Herald (Kennewick, Pasco, and Richland, WA):

---2/25/97 - aide to Representative Hastings - story involving parkland
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/oldnews/1997/0225.html

---9/30/97 - aide to Representative Hastings - story concerns Hastings' proposal of an anti-environmental bill to Congress.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/oldnews/1997/0930.html

---5/5/99 - Judge Pro Tem Todd Ungerecht deals with an NFL player accused of drunk driving.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/1999/0505.html


September 1999 - Washington State Bar Association - Todd Ungerecht appointed to Legislative Committee
http://www.wsba.org/media/publications/barnews/archives/1999/sep-99-board.htm

2003 - Legislative Director for Representative Otter of Idaho
http://www.thetimeisnow.us/representatives/idaho/id_dist1.htm

2004 - tribute to Reagan from Todd Ungerecht of Lynnwood, WA (at the georgewbush.com site, no less)
http://www.georgewbush.com/reagan/Default.aspx?ID=U
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #195
199. you can edit your comments
I do it all the time, if you don't realize you errored until later, you can go back to your original and fix it.

but still cute response to your messup!

who knows what that above poster or others may find out by writing them!!!!!!!!
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choicevoice Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:31 AM
Response to Original message
200. What if?
Since they can't keep their .com's and .org's straight, what if someone set up any@________.org or any@_________.org, whichever is not legitimate, for the more important individuals, just to see what one might capture.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
201. With all due respect ...
to those of you who are looking for press exposure of possible indiscretions and legal issues that may deserve prosecution ...

now is not the time for that.

The press on this is going to be "Republican e-mail hacked!" And that's it. That's all we can get.

And it's too late for any significant legal work to be done. The wheels of justice turn very slowly.

No, now is the time to confuse, humiliate, and subvert our enemy from within. See post 193 above for directions on just how to do that.

Oh, and that guy who said he and Jenna would "look good" together. LOL! Everyone on his list should get a rather crude e-mail from him about some of his more extravagant fantasies.

Such fun ...

:smoke:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #201
238. Hacked? What hacked????
Stupid REPUBLICANS typed the wrong email addresses. THEY SCREWED UP, and sent the emails to a parody website in error. There was absolutely no hacking here at all. They pushed the send button, and the owners of the site received the mail that they are authorized to receive.

This is big--they are cheating in Florida. They are using state reps' mail accounts to send out flyers for the Idiot Boyking. They are violating CFL left and right. They need to be called on it, AND the fact that they are STUPID is just icing on the cake--obviously, the stupidity shit rolls DOWNHILL! No wonder Iraq is a mess--the fish has rotted from the head down.

The Jenna thing is just stupid. The criminal behavior is what I find fascinating.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #238
247. You're right, of course.
Nobody hacked anything here. That's just what I expect the media to call it if (and when) this gets some exposure. And I find the criminal stuff interesting too, but BushCo. is guilty of so many crimes that the ones exposed here seem barely worth mentioning (though we might be able to take down some party operatives after the election).

All I was saying is that the best immediate use to us of this information would be to keep the R's busy--confusing them, forcing them to scrutinize every e-mail they get, make them take time to tighten up security, create dissension in their ranks ... that kind of thing.

Make sense? :toast:

-Laelth
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #247
254. There are obvious campaign violations happening
...in FL, and these misrouted emails are the tip of the iceberg. We have too much to do in a positive fashion. I can't see any value added to fucking with the GOP. Just can't. I play fair, we play fair--we are better than those guys. Screwing with them is descending to their level. It may be funny to joke about it, but I can't be down with that sort of thing.

The best thing that could happen to this info is if some intrepid reporter starts digging, digging, digging, and finds out how many state reps illegally used their mailing privileges to shill for BushCo, finds out how many government employees used their government computers (note the odd Yahoo accounts--that is what they use now, since all dot-gov email is archived) to do campaign work, and finds out how they are using government assets to infiltrate and electioneer in churches. This is a SCANDAL, and it started out as a joke on a parody site.

But whaddaya expect....weecowboy is a joke. And it is now obvious to me that his vaunted team of supposedly clever and nefarious thugs are, at the end of the day, incredibly stupid and INCOMPETENT...just like HE IS!
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:46 AM
Response to Original message
204.  James L. Connaughton
is the Chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality ("CEQ").

---------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: Perino, Dana M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:44 PM
To: gbecker@georgewbush.org
Subject: Fw: How is it going?

-----Original Message-----
From: Anderson, David R.
To: Connaughton, James ; Perino, Dana M. ; Greene, William ; Becker, Glynda A.
Sent: Tue Aug 31 21:41:52 2004
Subject: Fw: How is it going?

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Ungerecht
To: Anderson, David R.
CC: Bob.Lohn@noaa.gov
Sent: Tue Aug 31 18:35:40 2004
Subject: Re: How is it going?

The call lasted a little longer than it should have been allowed, but I think Bob got through the questions pretty well. Incidentally, I don't know how they got the number, but about 8 or 10 enviro reps were called as the sequence of the callers were recognized. Luckily, none of them were given an opportunity to ask a question.

There were 16 media reps with questions during the call:
1. Eric Barker, Lewiston Tribune
2. Rocky Barker, Idaho Statesman
3. Eva Brandt, Associated Press
4. Kathleen O'Neil, Post-Register News
5. Hal Briton, Seattle Times
6. Will Phinney, Confederated Tribes Bulletin
7. Jeff Barnard, AP
8. Barry Eppeson, Columbia Basin Bulletin
9. Bill Rudolph, NW Fishletter
10. Natalie Henry, Greenwire
11. Eric Robinson, the Columbian (Vancouver, WA)
12. Blaine Harden, Washington Post (NW office)
13. Michelle Cole, The Oregonian
14. Gary G?, Highland Times
15. Mark Engler, Capitol Press
16. Amy Cole, Movable Currents (I suspect an arm of American Rivers)

Bob gave a 10 minute overview following the points, followed by Q&A. The qs focused on a variety of issues--how the opinion achieved no jeopardy for Snake River fall chinook and sockeye, how RSWs work and the project timeframe for their installation, etc., and then evolved into questions about the jeopardy standard, how different from 2000, whether it would lessen the standard for recovery, how the environmental baseline from 2000 changed, how harvest impacted, what about the 199 RPAs in 2000 bi-op.

Blaine Harden (the NW rep for the Washington Post) asked if dam removal would be out of the opinion and if the ocean conditions went south would dam removal be brought back in, etc.,

The AP reporters focused on the standard--whether it would be for sustainability or for recovery.

Natalie Henry from Greenwire asked if the new proposed actions would respond to Judge Redden's concerns.

Bob did well in responding to all questions and encouraged them to review the details of the opinion when its released.

Todd Ungerecht
Senior Policy Advisor
Northwest Region
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
U.S. Department of Commerce
(206) 526-6152

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anderson, David R."
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:37 pm
Subject: How is it going?


> Jim and I are eager hear.
>
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #204
209. I TOTALLY agree...this was passed from a woman paid by
OUR taxpayer dollars ( Dana M. Perino) who is ...

A representative of President Bush's Council for Environmental Quality said the delay would have no impact on the White House's expectations for Leavitt taking over the helm of the EPA.

"We expect to have a speedy confirmation," said Dana M. Perino.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Z5JxNvBWaSYJ:www.msnbc.com/local/slt/M93396.asp%3F0LA%3Dakv9n+%22Dana+M.+perino%22&hl=en

She is attempting to pass internal Govt emails from NOAA/CEQ (which are a disgrace in and of themselves) to the Bush election campaign.....f-ing disgraceful !!!!!!!!!!

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #209
243. Good Thing the Environmental Reps Couldn't Ask Questions
Here is the article about the subject that the Federal officials were talking about when they said its a good thing the environmental representatives were not able to ask any questions. This article features the author of that email.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/03/26/MNGQG5RO7F1.DTL

"Salmon jeopardized by method used in run count, scientists say
U.S. agency ignores suggestion not to mix hatchery and wild fish in calculation
Glen Martin, San Francisco Chronicle Environment Writer
Friday, March 26, 2004

In the latest manifestation of an intensifying conflict between the Bush administration and the science community, a panel of biologists has charged that a U.S. agency decision to reject its findings on West Coast wild salmon threatens the fish with extinction.

At issue is whether salmon raised at government hatcheries should be counted as wild salmon. Currently, the National Marine Fisheries Service includes hatchery fish in its general counts but excludes them when considering salmon runs for listing under the federal Endangered Species Act.

In September, Judge Michael Hogan of the U.S. District Court in Eugene, Ore., ruled that the federal regulations for counting fish are unworkable. He said hatchery-reared salmon should be included with wild salmon in determining the size of a given salmon run.

Because the numbers of hatchery fish are large on many rivers that support small populations of wild fish, the ruling could result in the delisting of many runs currently considered endangered. Since the ruling, there have been about 15 petitions from landowners and timber companies to delist various salmon populations...

In a paper published today in the journal Science, the six panel members warn that several runs of coho and chinook salmon ultimately face extinction if they are removed from protection under the endangered-species law.

Todd Ungerecht, a senior policy adviser for NMFS, said the panel members were entitled to their opinions, "but it must be remembered that is what they are -- opinions. There is a whole other body of scientists that don't agree with their determination that hatcheries are all bad."
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #204
218. Glynda A. Becker

Glynda A. Becker <Glynda_A._Becker@who.eop.gov>
is on the White House Staff:
Becker, Glynda A $65,300 Associate Political Director

Link above is a list of white house staffers and their salaries, which was posted at WaPo.
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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:04 AM
Response to Original message
208. No wonder Dick Cheney got the FactCheck.org domain wrong
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #208
253. Which of the Internets was this posted on? nt
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:12 AM
Response to Original message
210. Someone needs to send the Newt pdf file to George Soros
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 01:24 AM by evilqueen
Or alert him to its location so he can get it himself.

*Update:

I've sent Soros an email with the location of the file. Since he's mentioned in it, it's only fair he be advised of it's location. What he does with it is up to him.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:16 AM
Response to Original message
211. "THE MIDDLE EASTERN AMERICAN NATIONAL CONFERENCE"
There's no such thing! Check google! Sure the people exist but they're just slapping together this Org for the campaign!

Here's the unreleased press report:

(WALID DO YOU HAVE A LETTER HEAD OR AN OFFICIAL SYMBOL FOR THE CONFERENCE? IF SO PLEASE PUT ON THAT LETTERHEAD. IF NOT WE CAN LEAVE BLANK)



THE MIDDLE EASTERN AMERICAN NATIONAL CONFERENCE
ENDORESES PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OCTOBER 23, 2004 CONTACT: DR. WALID PHARES
(INSERT YOUR PHONE NUMBER)



The Middle Eastern American National Conference (MEANC), based in Washington, D.C., is pleased to announce that they have endorsed George W. Bush to be re-elected as President of the United States.

The MEANC is a coalition of Americans of Middle East descent who hail from various religious and ethnic backgrounds including: Arab, Maronites, ChaldoAssyrian, Persian, African, Copt, Berber, Sunni, Shiite, Orthodox, Melkite, Syriac, Zoroastrian, Bahai, Jews, Druze, Lebanese, Iraqi, Syrian, Egyptian, Libyan, Sudanese, Palestinian, Jordanian, Algerian, Yemeni, Arabian, Kuwaiti, Afghani, Iranian, Turk, Azeri, Tunisian, Moroccan, Mauritanian, Ethiopian, Eritrean and others.

The following is the text of MENAC’s endorsement in full:

“We the undersigned, declare our endorsement of President George W Bush for a second term as a President of the United States. We base our endorsement on the President's support of policies we deem in line with the aspirations and agendas of the majority of Americans from Middle Eastern descent. We especially support the principles which the President has articulated in the areas of U.S. national and homeland security, the international campaign against terrorism and the promotion of human rights, democracy and self determination in the Middle East.”

Dr. Walid Phares, Washington D.C.
(title??)

John Hajjar, Esq., _____, Massachusetts
Lebanese American

George Kassas, city state
Lebanese American

Tom Harb, city state
Maronite-American

Jacob Kyriakes, city state
Copt-American

John Nimrod city state
Assyrian American

Joseph Kassab city state
Chaldean American †††*

Dr Zuhdi Jasir, city state
Muslim American

Kamal Nawash, _____, Virginia
Muslim American

Farid Ghadri, Potomac, Maryland
Syrian American

Mohammed el Jahmi, ____ Virginia
†Libyan American

Mrs Zainab al Suwaij , city, Massachusetts
Iraqi American†*

Mohammed Mansoor Kane, city state
Mauritanian-American

Jimmy Mullah, city state
South Sudanese American

Mohammed Yahia city state
Darfur-American ††*















































THIS SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE SIGNATORIES ABOVE TO USE AS TALKING POINTS IF THE PRESS CALLS THEM – ALSO WALID PLEASE HAVE ALL OF THE ABOVE CONTACT PHONE NUMBERS SO IF THE PRESS ASKS THEY CAN BE CONTACTED,





This endorsement is based on the following:

1. The War on Terrorism: We support the Campaign against al Qaida and the other Jihadist Terrorist groups, including Hizbollah, and consider this war as a historic confrontation with an evil ideology which must be uprooted and denounced worldwide. The War on Terrorism is not only about arresting and killing Terrorists, but is also about creating changes in the region producing this ideology of mass death. We support the Bush doctrine which considers any regime which protects the Terrorists and support them as a Terror regime which should be removed.

2. The War in Iraq: We thank the US Congress for authorizing this campaign, and we thank President Bush for taking the risk of conflict so that more than 24 million Iraqis are now freed from one of the most genocidal dictators in modern History. The removal of Saddam Hussein is a central part of the War against Terrorism. We denounce those who opposed the liberation of Iraq as indirect associates of the mass murderer. We support the democratic process in Iraq and feel that the re-election of President Bush would bring hope to the Iraqi democratic forces and ensure international support to the emergence of Iraqi democracy

3. Democracy and Human Rights: We thank President Bush for declaring a campaign to spread Democracy and freedom in the Broader Middle East. We as Americans from Middle Eastern and North African descent reject the notion that our mother societies do not deserve democracy. We praise the President's agenda of supporting Human Rights, especially the rights of Women, youth and minorities in the Middle East. We feel that with President Bush's policies and principles we will be able to assist our mother civil societies in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Algeria and elsewhere to move towards Democracy.

4. Syria's occupation of Lebanon: We thank the President for signing the Syria Accountability Act of 2003 and for instructing our US delegation for introducing, and passing the UNSCR 1559 calling for the end of Syrian occupation of Lebanon. Lebanese-Americans are particularly appreciative of these initiatives and resents the previous policies of allowing Syria to crush the Lebanese people.

5. Syria's reforms: We thank the President for pressing Syria to end its alliance with Terrorism, including with Hezbollah, the foreign Fighters in Iraq and Hamas and Islamic Jihad. And also for pressuring the Baathist regime in Syria to conduct democratic reforms.

6. Sudan and Mauritania: We thank the President and his Secretary of State Colin Powell for declaring the crisis in Darfur as a Genocide and for extending help to the people of Southern Sudan, who must enjoy their rights as Black Africans. We thank the President who repetitively called for an end to Slavery in Sudan and Mauritania. The North African Americans, urge their brothers and sisters of the African American community to vote for President Bush as a way to free more slaves in Africa and defend our common African heritage from oppression.

7. Minorities: We thank the President for insisting on the rights of minorities, particularly the endangered ones such as the ChaldoAssyrians in Iraq and Syria and the Copts in Egypt. We believe that under a Bush second term, more autonomy would be extended to these minorities so that they would survive the threat of Terror and discrimination.

8. Libya: We thank and congratulate the President for succeeding in the process of disarming the Libyan regime of Muaamar Qadhafi and feel that a second term of the Bush Presidency will press the Libyan regime to reform, and release the political prisoners.

9. Afghanistan: We praise the President for his leadership in removing the Taliban and helping in establishing a democratic Government in Afghanistan

10. Israel-Palestine Conflict: We value President's Bush call for a two states solution with a secure Israel and a Democratic Palestinian state living side by side.

10. Homeland Security: We thank the President for introducing and Congress for passing the Patriot Act. We stand by the President in his policies of developing counter Terrorism and furthering diversity, and tolerance. We praise President Bush for his stand during and since the barbaric attacks of September 11. We feel he expressed not only the sentiments of the majority of Americans but also the majority of Middle East Americans. †

Based on these 10 principles of policy, we hereby call on more than 5 million Americans from Middle East and North African descent to vote for George W Bush as President of the United States for four more years







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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #211
214. Why does this not surprise me? n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #214
215. Hmm ... seems out of place to me.
;)

SEE POST 193 ABOVE


subvert them from within ...

:smoke:

-Laelth
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #215
216. Out of place?
I don't get it... you think this one is from us?

It's too lackluster... unless I totally missed your point. Which is possible.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #216
217. In all honesty ...
I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say about it. I get it now. Apologies.

just ignore my comment ... but subvert the R's anyway!

Post #193 above!

:toast:

-Laelth
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 04:19 AM
Response to Reply #211
230. hopefully the kerry campaign sees this letter.
I'd send it but can't find an email on their site.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #211
272. They are making up organizations to endorse chimp!
It can't be legal to pass off a made-up organization as a real one. Not-for-profits have to file for IRS numbers, get state authorization, etc.

It has to be a crime to claim to be a not-for-profit that doesn't really exist.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #211
275. Why does this remind me of
the white paint "grafitti" that appeared in BOTH Grenada and Panama after the U.S. invasions saying, "God Bless America" and "Thank you President Reagan/Bush"?

:eyes:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:55 AM
Response to Original message
220. self-delete
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 02:32 AM by NightOwwl
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #220
221. It is a parody website ...
but I don't believe for a second that the website made up all those e-mails. That would just be too much work and would require too much research.

No, I think the e-mails are real.

just my 2 cents ...

-Laelth
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #221
223. Thank you Leath...
I thought people were referring to the site in general, not just the letters. I appreciate you setting me straight. :)
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #223
224. No biggie.
:toast:

:dem:

Kerry on!

-Laelth
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #220
222. Um, the site is a parody, but THIS ISN'T.
Did you read the damn thing?
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #222
225. Thanks for being so kind and understanding about my screw-up.
:shrug:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #225
226. Well gee, you came in here with CAPS LOCK..
..blaring, saying that everyone was wrong, whereas a few further seconds of examination would've shown you that you were, in fact, incorrect.

I, too, will :shrug:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #226
227. Actually, I apologized about the shouting in my first sentence,
and if you had read my entire post you would have seen that I was concerned for the owner of the website. But because I realized I over-reacted, I deleted the post, so I guess we'll just have to move on.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:11 AM
Response to Original message
235. OK, I sent the following two emails out to be checked.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert William - Political
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 6:20 PM
To: Robert William - Political; Drew Ryun - Political; Christina Thornton - Political; Martin Gillespie - Political; gciarrocchi@georgewbush.com; lbernstein@georgewbush.org; David James - Political; nsinatra@pagop.com; Drew Ryun - Political; Christina Thornton - Political; Martin Gillespie - Political; gciarrocchi@georgewbush.com; lbernstein@georgewbush.com; Trey Best - Political; nsinatra@pagop.org Cc: nsinatra@georgewbush.com
Subject: RE: Weekly Report September 7, 2004
Importance: High

Attached is my weekly report as of September 7, 2004. Robert William
RNC Field Staff - Pennsylvania Evangelical Outreach
202-306-5557

ATTACHMENT: Weekly_Report_September_7_ 2004.xls


and this one:


-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Uran - Political
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:04 PM
To: dolson@georgewbush.org
Subject: ATTACHMENT: Church_Lists.xls


Both Excel files are clean -- did virus check.
First one has a huge amount of church listings, addresses, size of congregations, phone numbers, and place to list what they accomplished. The second one has very little in the way of addresses, but it lists the fact that they were registering voters FROM the churches. Sadly, that one doesn't list the church names. Oh, one or both, can't remember right now, also lists if they got the church directories or not. Remember that scam a few months ago?

So, I sent this info to "Americans United for Separation of Church and State." Web site address is:
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer

I've been on their mailing list for a long time. Hopefully, if there is anything they can do with this information, they'll get on it. I know it's not something that can be done before the election, but at least they can check the Repubs out and see what they've been up to. Naughty Repubs. :evilgrin:

If I get any feedback, I'll be sure to post it.


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mdhunter Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:48 AM
Response to Original message
244. Notice that this story isn't on Drudge
If you needed any more evidence to confirm his partisan hackery.

Actually, he's usually a bipartisan sensationalist, whatever gets headlines... Odd that there isn't wider coverage of these emails just for the entertainment value.
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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #244
256. Yes, I did notice....
I sent Drudge a link to this earlier today and they have still posted nothing. Their current 'hot topic' is that CBS was going to release the 'Lost Ammo' story on the eve of the election.

I used to like Mr. Drudge....I am now having second thoughts about his positioning. I usually find balance on his site but more and more he is leaning to the right.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
251. kick
:kick:
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
258. Holy CRAP they STILL don't get it!!!
ROTFLMFAO!
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Adamocrat Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
259. Now we know what "CAGING" is...
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Rjnerd Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #259
261. I wonder how long it will take
Rove's minions to figure out where the leak is? I can just picture the foam forming on his lips...
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 03:48 PM
Response to Original message
264. Found it and saved it-
if anyone needs it, contact me thru DU!
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misterpants Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
265. BBC picks up caging story
The BBC has picked up on the 'caging' story from the list of 1800+ voters found at the dead letter office:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm

That was fast!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #265
271. May have gotten it elsewhere
He wouldn't have been able to get this story done in less than a day. I think he got the list elsewhere. I emailed him the site which shows the sender. We'll see if he replies
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nedbal Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:14 PM
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269. shop this to the media??????
subject to media:SECRET RNC DOCUMENTS DISCOVERED

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3956129.stm
Last Updated: Tuesday, 26 October, 2004, 17:06 GMT 18:06 UK

New Florida vote scandal feared

By Greg Palast
Reporting for BBC's Newsnight

A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts, a BBC Newsnight investigation reveals.

Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".
<more, continued, snip>

The source of the documents and others that were recently made public can be located here..

http://www.georgewbush.org/deadletteroffice

OCTOBER, 2004: Recently, we at GeorgeWBush.org happened to notice that our mail server had a default "catch-all" mailbox, which for the past several months had been quietly gathering any and all e-mails addressed to @georgewbush.org. We felt the need to share.

<note the .ORG vs the official site .COM>

<more, continued, snip>



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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
270. ATTN : Greg Palast on BBC-TV tonight
The stuff we were looking at last night contained this caging list!


Tonight BBC TV to Reveal New Florida Vote Scandal
Republican "Caging List"

BBC Television News On-Line
Tuesday, October 26, 2004
Greg Palast, reporting

A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts, a BBC Newsnight investigation reveals.

(Watch it tonight at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm begining at 5.30pm EST, available for 24 hours.)

Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".

It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.

An elections supervisor in Tallahassee, when shown the list, told Newsnight: "The only possible reason why they would keep such a thing is to challenge voters on election day."

Ion Sancho, a Democrat, noted that Florida law allows political party operatives inside polling stations to stop voters from obtaining a ballot.

---Mass challenges---

They may then only vote "provisionally" after signing an affidavit attesting to their legal voting status.

Mass challenges have never occurred in Florida. Indeed, says Mr Sancho, not one challenge has been made to a voter "in the 16 years I've been supervisor of elections."

"Quite frankly, this process can be used to slow down the voting process and cause chaos on election day; and discourage voters from voting."

Sancho calls it "intimidation." And it may be illegal.

In Washington, well-known civil rights attorney, Ralph Neas, noted that US federal law prohibits targeting challenges to voters, even if there is a basis for the challenge, if race is a factor in targeting the voters.

The list of Jacksonville voters covers an area with a majority of black residents.

When asked by Newsnight for an explanation of the list, Republican spokespersons claim the list merely records returned mail from either fundraising solicitations or returned letters sent to newly registered voters to verify their addresses for purposes of mailing campaign literature.

Republican state campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker Fletcher stated the list was not put together "in order to create" a challenge list, but refused to say it would not be used in that manner.

Rather, she did acknowledge that the party's poll workers will be instructed to challenge voters, "Where it's stated in the law."

There was no explanation as to why such clerical matters would be sent to top officials of the Bush campaign in Florida and Washington.

---Private detective---

In Jacksonville, to determine if Republicans were using the lists or other means of intimidating voters, we filmed a private detective filming every "early voter" - the majority of whom are black - from behind a vehicle with blacked-out windows.

The private detective claimed not to know who was paying for his all-day services.

On the scene, Democratic Congresswoman Corinne Brown said the surveillance operation was part of a campaign of intimidation tactics used by the Republican Party to intimate and scare off African American voters, almost all of whom are registered Democrats.

Greg Palast reporting. The film will be broadcast by Newsnight tonight, Tuesday, 26 October, 2004 at 2230 BST (6:30pm New York time).
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #270
273. Please keep this kicked for the night crew
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
274. Kicking for the night crew as requested.
:)


:kick:
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